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Post by stoic on Nov 1, 2017 2:53:55 GMT
Even in conversation with your fellow American in Texas? Lol, I grew up in Texas. We sure don't like cowboys in Dallas. It was not a happy coincidence You told me that. Remember, there was a guy in one of EW 5 threads who only could speak Spanish and we helped him a bit... And, btw, a question was a serious one
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Post by Gaius Julius Caesar on Nov 1, 2017 3:22:25 GMT
Lol, I grew up in Texas. We sure don't like cowboys in Dallas. It was not a happy coincidence You told me that. Remember, there was a guy in one of EW 5 threads who only could speak Spanish and we helped him a bit... And, btw, a question was a serious one Oh btw, I meant talk like cowboys... Lol, and yeah I'm bilingual in English and Spanish.
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Post by stoic on Nov 1, 2017 3:48:58 GMT
It was not a happy coincidence You told me that. Remember, there was a guy in one of EW 5 threads who only could speak Spanish and we helped him a bit... And, btw, a question was a serious one Oh btw, I meant talk like cowboys... Lol, and yeah I'm bilingual in English and Spanish. And why do you say "we in Dallas" instead of "they in Dallas" if you were grown up in Texas? Isn't the birthplace the most important thing for self-identity in USA?
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Post by Desophaeus on Nov 1, 2017 4:41:53 GMT
Oh btw, I meant talk like cowboys... Lol, and yeah I'm bilingual in English and Spanish. And why do you say "we in Dallas" instead of "they in Dallas" if you was grown up in Texas? Isn't the birthplace the most important thing for self-identity in USA? It depends upon the scale of the birthplace, I think. Born and raised in a small country village would lend a very strong sense of close kinship and such, but in a metropolis of millions, it may feels more abstract and detached but also invokes the need of belonging to a greater level at the same time. A certain way of feeling belonging would be a group of friends who does an activity such as gaming, sports or a hobby, or even a type of career. That may supercedes the precise birthplace as the basis of self-identity. Seems to make sense to me... I grew up in a very large city myself, so I can only imagine what it is like to grow up in a tiny town.
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Post by Gaius Julius Caesar on Nov 1, 2017 5:01:11 GMT
Oh btw, I meant talk like cowboys... Lol, and yeah I'm bilingual in English and Spanish. And why do you say "we in Dallas" instead of "they in Dallas" if you was grown up in Texas? Isn't the birthplace the most important thing for self-identity in USA? Dallas is a city in Texas. I grew up very close to there, just about 20 miles away, but I was born in Dallas. Also, most Texans are proud to be Texan and want everyone to know it, and I'm no exception.
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Post by stoic on Nov 1, 2017 5:17:54 GMT
And why do you say "we in Dallas" instead of "they in Dallas" if you was grown up in Texas? Isn't the birthplace the most important thing for self-identity in USA? Dallas is a city in Texas. I grew up very close to there, just about 20 miles away, but I was born in Dallas. Also, most Texans are proud to be Texan and want everyone to know it, and I'm no exception. Oooh, I assumed from your words that you were a country boy, with cowboy hats, horses, rodeo and staff like that... My mistake
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Post by Gaius Julius Caesar on Nov 1, 2017 5:23:58 GMT
Dallas is a city in Texas. I grew up very close to there, just about 20 miles away, but I was born in Dallas. Also, most Texans are proud to be Texan and want everyone to know it, and I'm no exception. Oooh, I assumed from your words that you were a country boy, with cowboy hats, horses, rodeo and staff like that... My mistake Heck no! Although, I did visit the County Fair quite often, and you could find that stuff there. They had the coolest rodeo shows! Shall we go back to the topic of English though?
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Post by stoic on Nov 1, 2017 5:38:23 GMT
Oooh, I assumed from your words that you were a country boy, with cowboy hats, horses, rodeo and staff like that... My mistake Heck no! Although, I did visit the County Fair quite often, and you could find that stuff there. They had the coolest rodeo shows! Shall we go back to the topic of English though? Yep, I hope I was not very intrusive And my question was why you personally never use third and fourth variants... Simply because of recipients? Or are they grammatically or stylistically incorrect? Btw, is it correct to say "why you never use...", should I always say "why don't you ever use..." instead?
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Post by Desophaeus on Nov 1, 2017 14:07:11 GMT
Heck no! Although, I did visit the County Fair quite often, and you could find that stuff there. They had the coolest rodeo shows! Shall we go back to the topic of English though? Yep, I hope I was not very intrusive And my question was why you personally never use third and fourth variants... Simply because of recipients? Or are they grammatically or stylistically incorrect? Btw, is it correct to say "why you never use...", should I always say "why don't you ever use..." instead? I definitely know that those two lines do carry hidden meanings and could backfire on you quite badly. It's hard to explain though.
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Post by Desophaeus on Nov 1, 2017 14:13:49 GMT
stoic, Hmm.... I think a way of describing this would be that native English speakers use an enormous amount of "emotional shorthand" lingo. If one were to sit down and list them all, he would be an old man before he got up. Quite frankly, it's very annoying to a non-native English user like me even though I am an American myself. My primary language is American Sign Language. English is something that I have to use on a daily basis but my thoughts aren't English and I can't hear anyway. I'm Deaf, and even though I am well-educated, well-spoken (in ASL), and well-read, I still struggle with the strange implications that people just arbitrarily assign to words or phrases even though the implications often has nothing to do with the actual definition of the words themselves, unfortunately.
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Post by Gaius Julius Caesar on Nov 1, 2017 14:31:50 GMT
stoic, Hmm.... I think a way of describing this would be that native English speakers use an enormous amount of "emotional shorthand" lingo. If one were to sit down and list them all, he would be an old man before he got up. Quite frankly, it's very annoying to a non-native English user like me even though I am an American myself. My primary language is American Sign Language. English is something that I have to use on a daily basis but my thoughts aren't English and I can't hear anyway. I'm Deaf, and even though I am well-educated, well-spoken (in ASL), and well-read, I still struggle with the strange implications that people just arbitrarily assign to words or phrases even though the implications often has nothing to do with the actual definition of the words themselves, unfortunately. You don't seem deaf.... I guess that means your good at our lingo!
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Nov 1, 2017 14:34:33 GMT
For example, what is correct? 1. My technology tree is weak. 2. My technology tree is unadvanced. 3. My technology tree lags behind. 4. My technology tree falls behind. 5. My technology tree is undeveloped. If we are still looking at this, my "Perfect Queen's English" strictness tells me that all of them are unacceptable. 1 IMO is the best line out of the 5. IMO, 3 & 4 imply a comparison between different tech trees but you did not include the second subject. For 5, undeveloped should ONLY be used when you literally DID NOT upgrade it at all. Instead, you may want to say, "My technology tree is underdeveloped"
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Post by Der Kaiserreich on Nov 1, 2017 14:36:21 GMT
Heck no! Although, I did visit the County Fair quite often, and you could find that stuff there. They had the coolest rodeo shows! Shall we go back to the topic of English though? Yep, I hope I was not very intrusive And my question was why you personally never use third and fourth variants... Simply because of recipients? Or are they grammatically or stylistically incorrect? Btw, is it correct to say "why you never use...", should I always say "why don't you ever use..." instead? "Why you never use..." sounds awfully Singlish (Singapore's English, which is full of slang and bad grammar)which is discouraged in schools (For pretty obvious reasons. Imagine seeing "Wahlao" or "Alamak" in an essay!) so I think it's better if you avoid saying that.
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Post by Der Kaiserreich on Nov 1, 2017 14:41:03 GMT
stoic , Hmm.... I think a way of describing this would be that native English speakers use an enormous amount of "emotional shorthand" lingo. If one were to sit down and list them all, he would be an old man before he got up. Quite frankly, it's very annoying to a non-native English user like me even though I am an American myself. My primary language is American Sign Language. English is something that I have to use on a daily basis but my thoughts aren't English and I can't hear anyway. I'm Deaf, and even though I am well-educated, well-spoken (in ASL), and well-read, I still struggle with the strange implications that people just arbitrarily assign to words or phrases even though the implications often has nothing to do with the actual definition of the words themselves, unfortunately. You don't seem deaf.... I guess that means your good at our lingo! No kidding. I have a hard time believing that, the guy who hosted Dip games and frequents this forum is deaf.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Nov 1, 2017 14:42:35 GMT
Yep, I hope I was not very intrusive And my question was why you personally never use third and fourth variants... Simply because of recipients? Or are they grammatically or stylistically incorrect? Btw, is it correct to say "why you never use...", should I always say "why don't you ever use..." instead? "Why you never use..." sounds awfully Singlish (Singapore's English, which is full of slang and bad grammar)which is discouraged in schools (For pretty obvious reasons. Imagine seeing "Wahlao" or "Alamak" in an essay!) so I think it's better if you avoid saying that. I agree, can't be caught accidentally cursing now can we?
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