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Post by bigsmoke on Nov 10, 2017 13:41:08 GMT
Why many famous generals sucks at EW4 such as Blucher, Archduke Charles and Napoleon they should be the best generals because they are major players in Napoleonic wars
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Post by Tadamichi Kuribayashi on Nov 10, 2017 14:25:02 GMT
I think that Easytech tried to make them the best by making them hybrids. As such, I would think that they failed to emulate the greatness of these generals due to the limited number of skills.
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 10, 2017 14:28:10 GMT
Ivan Kolev really should give them a history lesson... Poor Massena. My friend was so pissed off after he saw his, er... Stats.
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Nov 10, 2017 20:42:18 GMT
Ivan Kolev really should give them a history lesson... Poor Massena. My friend was so pissed off after he saw his, er... Stats. I love the Napoleonic Wars, but I only know much about Napoleon along with the relatives he put in positions of power like Joachim Murat, Louis Bonaparte, Joseph Bonaparte, etc. I also know a bit about Suvorov, Wellington, Blucher, Dobeln and Nelson, but nothing much else unfortunately. The Campaigns I know a fair bit about, but the generals, not as much.
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Post by Marshal Ney on Nov 10, 2017 21:05:34 GMT
Why many famous generals sucks at EW4 such as Blucher, Archduke Charles and Napoleon they should be the best generals because they are major players in Napoleonic wars There is to be said that there are also very accurate details. For example, considering Paget aka Lord Uxbridge: he has assault art, in fact at Waterloo he has performed an excellent heavy cavalry charge. Many battles in the various campaigns (Wagram, Austerlitz and so on) despite being simplified, reflect the reality by showing the generals in the right place. In addition, Wellington has leadership, in fact he has always managed to keep his men's morale high, especially at Waterloo. Lasalle died at Wagram, in fact, in the corresponding mission he's about to die. Not to mention the many unknown generals that are shown in the game, for example Milinovic. Who is he!?
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Post by Arya Stark on Nov 10, 2017 21:55:03 GMT
Why many famous generals sucks at EW4 such as Blucher, Archduke Charles and Napoleon they should be the best generals because they are major players in Napoleonic wars There is to be said that there are also very accurate details. For example, considering Paget aka Lord Uxbridge: he has assault art, in fact at Waterloo he has performed an excellent heavy cavalry charge. Many battles in the various campaigns (Wagram, Austerlitz and so on) despite being simplified, reflect the reality by showing the generals in the right place. In addition, Wellington has leadership, in fact he has always managed to keep his men's morale high, especially at Waterloo. Lasalle died at Wagram, in fact, in the corresponding mission he's about to die. Not to mention the many unknown generals that are shown in the game, for example Milinovic. Who is he!? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomo_Milinović (Apparently thats him)
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 10, 2017 21:55:14 GMT
He may be this man: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomo_Milinović The dates, his participation in the Napoleonic Wars and his allegiances would at least be compatible. EDIT: I see Arya Stark got there just about the same time I did! I hadn't seen his post when I hit the reply button.
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Post by Arya Stark on Nov 10, 2017 21:57:16 GMT
He may be this man: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomo_Milinović The dates, his participation in the Napoleonic Wars and his allegiances would at least be compatible. I see Arya Stark got there just about the same time I did! I hadn't seen his post when I hit the reply button. Ah heh heh no harm there Only saw you when I refreshed my page
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Post by bigsmoke on Nov 10, 2017 23:34:56 GMT
Moreau just participated in French Revolutionary Wars and not Napoleonic Wars thats why you dont see him much
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Post by bigsmoke on Nov 10, 2017 23:38:55 GMT
Why the heck Moreau is stronger than Napoleon in artillery. Moreau just helped Napoleon into awesomeness. Moreau didnt participated in Napoleonic Wars
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Post by John Cameron of Fassiefern on Nov 15, 2017 18:28:15 GMT
Overall I think Easytech did a great job with historical accuracy, such as the placement of generals in particular campaigns, and other similar details. For instance, when I read War and Peace I saw some of the Russian generals, such as Platov and Miloradovic, who were talked about in the book, put in their correct places in the Russian campaign of 1812. Some other great details include the placement of Brock in the Copenhagen campaign in 1801, and then his inclusion in the war of 1812; both of which are accurate. Also, for the US and Spain, their militia units are very strong; indicative of the guerilla warfare used during the American Revolution and the Peninsular war.
There are a couple things that puzzle me, however. Why do Swedish units have the same stats as the French? Why isn't the British infantry better than it is? Why do the African nations and the Ottoman empire have some of the best stats in the game?
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Post by John Cameron of Fassiefern on Nov 15, 2017 20:13:30 GMT
One more cool detail; Mercer, the really bad British artillery general (in game) whose included at the battle of Waterloo was a real guy. Alexander Cavalié Mercer was the commander of a horse artillery unit at the Battles of Quatre Bras and Waterloo, and he left a very thorough account of his experiences in those three days. I recently read several books about Waterloo, and his memoir was constantly referenced in all three books. It was cool to see that the game designers included him.
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 15, 2017 20:21:19 GMT
One more cool detail; Mercer, the really bad British artillery general (in game) whose included at the battle of Waterloo was a real guy. Alexander Cavalié Mercer was the commander of a horse artillery unit at the Battles of Quatre Bras and Waterloo, and he left a very thorough account of his experiences in those three days. I recently read several books about Waterloo, and his memoir was constantly referenced in all three books. It was cool to see that the game designers included him. All of them are real guys, I think - see the more recent posts in my "Who is in my Academy today?" thread. Also, Marshal Ney managed to track down who the princesses Maria and Sophia almost certainly were in real life (ironically the princess we know as Sophia, assigned to Russia, was rechristened Maria when she married the heir to the Russian throne and converted to the Russian Orthodox branch of the faith, but she was born Sophia and having two Marias in the game would have been confusing. The other Maria, as far as Marshal Ney could track down, was Napoleon's second wife, after Josephine).
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Post by Marshal Ney on Nov 15, 2017 21:55:50 GMT
pathdoc, I updated that post by adding Victoria. But I have the impression that the other princesses are pure fantasy, or just hard-to-identify.
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 16, 2017 1:16:00 GMT
Lan is possibly a corruption of Mulan (thanks, Disney) and Victoria is too obvious to warrant searching.
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