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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 11, 2017 7:09:19 GMT
I feel like I've tried everything. My progress goes good until I'm at Moscow's doorstep. A massive never ending swarm of tanks always shows up seemingly out of nowhere and pushes me back. I've tried heading straight north to Britain and killing them first, still didn't work as the Soviet iron wave was already up and running by the time I got back. My generals are Guderian, Leeb, Messe, and Konev
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 12, 2017 4:05:49 GMT
I've beaten every Pacific and Europe hard mode except this one so I can't collect any rewards  |
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 12, 2017 4:49:00 GMT
Well I figured it out on my own... again. Basically just be patient. You'll need two good artillery generals and two good tank generals. I had the 80% chance to dodge attack upgrade for rocket artillery so it really helped. Put your best tank general on the super tank, your best arty gen on the triple rocket, and then build another triple rocket for the second arty gen. Take Smolensk with your artillery (80% upgrade is needed for your generals not to die) while Guderian (or an equivalent gen) holds off the enemies to the immediate east. You want to focus on killing every enemy on your war path, that's essential if you want to avoid the mass swarm that the Soviets unleash on you. After I captured Smolensk, my best arty gen (Konev) went north with my second tank gen (Messe) after I built another super tank in Smolensk. These two have to kill Montgomery and his British forces. Don't bother advancing all the way to their northern city, no time for that. Loop those two back around, killing any stray units, so they can rejoin the frontline. Speaking of the frontline, let's discuss how you'll get there. So with Konev and Messe out on their assasination mission, Guderian and Leeb must March to the city east of Smolensk. There will be minimal resistance, just some quad and triple stacked infantry. Guderian ain't no slouch, he melts through them like butter while Leeb politely claps. Now take that city and prepare for the fiesta. By fiesta, I mean the never ending bee hive of Soviet tanks that Rokovssky makes appear out thin air. Build units for the rest of your weak generals (I used Nagumo on double stacked rocket) and fend off the swarm. Timoshenko will rush to join the attack, just maintain your defense. You should be able to afford a heavy tank every round with your current income. Now this is where it gets iffy. Your allies might be capturing the British objective, or they might have gotten floor wiped. In my attempt, Guderian was able to capture the objective and I later stole it with paratroopers to defend it. Hopefully it's the same or even better scenario for you. Now that Messe and Konev have rejoined the fight and Guderian, Leeb, and Nagumo have stemmed the flow of tanks, time to advance on Rokovssky. Don't take it too fast, you should be on turn 18 or 19, the limit is 36. Just make sure you bring a few units to use to surround him. Oh by the way, my Leeb was dead by the time I got here so you don't need him. Messe triggered rumor twice in a row and confused Roko, making it easy to kill him. Capture Moscow and enjoy the sweet sound of metal clashing on that Victory screen. One more thing (I know this post can't be any longer bleh), you'll have to defend your two northern cities from the British. A light infantry unit will be enough to hold them off until the very end. Those cities are needed if you want to build heavy tanks every round. Short version: -Triple stacked rocket arty for Leeb -Take Smolensk -Two gens go kill Monty -Everyone else charge to next city -Hold your ground against the tanks, they actually do end eventually -Parasnipe the British objective -Bring the two gems back to attack Moscow -Win in 27 turns NetherFreek please add to the campaign list. Also while I have your attention, you have best75's guide for NATO 3 listed as Normal mode when it's actually Hard. Also please ignore the butchering of Roko's name. As you can see I gave up the third time I had to say his name. |
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Post by Singlemalt on Nov 12, 2017 12:31:56 GMT
Just see your quide request right now after u findished it yourself..
I dont think you really need 2 art generals but the fombination of tech upgrade, general strength will be in the end the reason you will get a 3 star or not..
I waited also a period before i could finish it in 3 star. Great guide though!!
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 12, 2017 19:21:41 GMT
Just see your quide request right now after u findished it yourself.. I dont think you really need 2 art generals but the fombination of tech upgrade, general strength will be in the end the reason you will get a 3 star or not.. I waited also a period before i could finish it in 3 star. Great guide though!! No, the second arty Gen probably isn't needed as mine died early before doing anything significant |
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Post by Henri Winkelman on Nov 12, 2017 20:30:24 GMT
I finished this scenario a long time ago, with only Leeb and Rommel, kanaged to get one star in the last turn, enoug to collect the reward. Once I bought my third general, Konev, I retried it and got 3 stars. I’d say, you need a mixture of skills, luck, tech and generals. But I can say for sure that you dont need 2 good tank and 2 good arty generals. 1 of each is good enough to complete it, I would have reccomended upgrading tech.
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 12, 2017 21:26:23 GMT
I finished this scenario a long time ago, with only Leeb and Rommel, kanaged to get one star in the last turn, enoug to collect the reward. Once I bought my third general, Konev, I retried it and got 3 stars. I’d say, you need a mixture of skills, luck, tech and generals. But I can say for sure that you dont need 2 good tank and 2 good arty generals. 1 of each is good enough to complete it, I would have reccomended upgrading tech. I commend you for beating this mission that early |
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Post by bruno1971 on Dec 4, 2017 8:41:47 GMT
I finally managed to make it due to this guide! At first I was misguided by a YouTube movie on this mission. For some reason the AI in that movie made the Germans in the north hold off the British and even got the north west target without any help! After having tried that several times I always got frustrated because I was able to take Moscow in time, but not the north west target because I was attacked by the British. With this guide first time right ☺
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Post by winkelman1 on Jan 26, 2018 20:33:18 GMT
Still hate this one, didn't finish it. Got guderian, Messe, konev, Nimitz & vatatutin. Got 1671, can buy Rommel or add rumor which is so usefully. Found this Triggerpoint: .org/image/t6bo1zpc3/]  [/url] Then English super artillery comes out. I am trying to find out what the trigger points are for manstein and guderian. Then I can form a better attack with them. |
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Post by winkelman1 on Jan 27, 2018 11:32:04 GMT
Nvm it was duable. This is how I did it: 1. Conquer Smolensk -> make super tank there, so I didn't make a triple stacked artillery. 2. Move all your troops to battle the UK. 3. Never conquer this city!!:  You do not want konev etc to come at you. 4. Take the city North of Moscow to make some heavy tanks. 5. Make one heavy tank in the city that you conquered from the UK , it is needed to defend it. 6. Than you can surround Moscow and I reduced the moral of roskovoskosy until he was defenseless. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jan 27, 2018 13:48:20 GMT
winkelman1 so that city & closing in on Konev is what triggers him? It seems I have yet another bad habit to attempt to correct.
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Post by winkelman1 on Jan 27, 2018 18:06:44 GMT
Haven't tested it. Maybe surrounding konev also triggers him, but in my games the city always triggers him
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Post by Gone on Aug 10, 2019 23:24:35 GMT
 Managed to complete it in just 18 turns! winkelman1, I can confirm that not capturing the city with the Level 3 Anti-Air Gun prevents Konev from attacking and Rokossovsky from sending his tank swarm. Thanks a lot for that tip! |
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Post by notfinnish on Aug 18, 2019 18:08:19 GMT
Nvm it was duable. This is how I did it: 1. Conquer Smolensk -> make super tank there, so I didn't make a triple stacked artillery. 2. Move all your troops to battle the UK. 3. Never conquer this city!!: You do not want konev etc to come at you. 4. Take the city North of Moscow to make some heavy tanks. 5. Make one heavy tank in the city that you conquered from the UK , it is needed to defend it. 6. Than you can surround Moscow and I reduced the moral of roskovoskosy until he was defenseless. My allies always take that city annoyingly! Even when they go north they fail and then take the city and die. Is there any way to prevent aliies from taking that city? |
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Post by Gone on Aug 18, 2019 20:39:05 GMT
Nvm it was duable. This is how I did it: 1. Conquer Smolensk -> make super tank there, so I didn't make a triple stacked artillery. 2. Move all your troops to battle the UK. 3. Never conquer this city!!: You do not want konev etc to come at you. 4. Take the city North of Moscow to make some heavy tanks. 5. Make one heavy tank in the city that you conquered from the UK , it is needed to defend it. 6. Than you can surround Moscow and I reduced the moral of roskovoskosy until he was defenseless. My allies always take that city annoyingly! Even when they go north they fail and then take the city and die. Is there any way to prevent aliies from taking that city? I think they will leave the city alone if you engage Britain before they do. |
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