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Post by matthew on Dec 11, 2017 11:23:12 GMT
How about line ups without IAPs? Will you still use the same skill combos for Guderian?
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Post by andrei on Dec 11, 2017 11:45:28 GMT
How about line ups without IAPs? Will you still use the same skill combos for Guderian? Yes. In case I will have no IAP, I would use Leeb instead of Zhukov and Rokossovskiy instead of Manstein. I would take either Blitzkrieg of PF instead of Machinist for Rokossovskiy, but Guderian would be the same.
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Post by stoic on Dec 11, 2017 16:46:28 GMT
andrei, what do you think of Wolfpack in Domination battles, especially in comparison with Sailor?
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Post by andrei on Dec 11, 2017 18:15:53 GMT
andrei, what do you think of Wolfpack in Domination battles, especially in comparison with Sailor? I don't like Sailor. Imo almost useless if You have Rumor for campaigns and conquests. But Wolfpack in Domination is also very difficult to benefit from. Not too much space to place Your navy around the gen with Wolfpack. So.. particularly for Domination Sailor could be same good as Wolfpack.
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Post by stoic on Dec 11, 2017 18:55:12 GMT
andrei, what do you think of Wolfpack in Domination battles, especially in comparison with Sailor? I don't like Sailor. Imo almost useless if You have Rumor for campaigns and conquests. But Wolfpack in Domination is also very difficult to benefit from. Not too much space to place Your navy around the gen with Wolfpack. So.. particularly for Domination Sailor could be same good as Wolfpack. Let's imagine one of your generals already has Rumor and you have to choose between Sailor and Wolfpack. What will be your choice?
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Post by andrei on Dec 11, 2017 19:08:55 GMT
I don't like Sailor. Imo almost useless if You have Rumor for campaigns and conquests. But Wolfpack in Domination is also very difficult to benefit from. Not too much space to place Your navy around the gen with Wolfpack. So.. particularly for Domination Sailor could be same good as Wolfpack. Let's imagine one of your generals already has Rumor and you have to choose between Sailor and Wolfpack. What will be your choice? If You don't have problems with 12 medals invasions take Sailor
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Post by stoic on Dec 11, 2017 19:26:17 GMT
Let's imagine one of your generals already has Rumor and you have to choose between Sailor and Wolfpack. What will be your choice? If You don't have problems with 12 medals invasions take Sailor No, I don't have any problems with Invasions anymore. My targets are now Domination battles and exercises...
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Post by stoic on Dec 17, 2017 16:35:19 GMT
Ok, debates "Rumor vs. Plain fighting etc." are over, I presume. And we can agree now, that andrei was right in his assumption. But what about "Explosives vs. Plain fighting etc."? Explosives is a great skill, but 1. It is too situational. 2. Cities' defense can be broken with a solid combination Leader skill+AA (or Accuracy)+Terrain bonus. Yes, we have to penetrate city's defense many times, but are conventional skills not enough for this?
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Post by andrei on Dec 17, 2017 17:24:55 GMT
Ok, debates "Rumor vs. Plain fighting etc." are over, I presume. And we can agree now, that andrei was right in his assumption. But what about "Explosives vs. Plain fighting etc."? Explosives is a great skill, but 1. It is too situational. 2. Cities' defense can be broken with a solid combination Leader skill+AA (or Accuracy)+Terrain bonus. Yes, we have to penetrate city's defense many times, but are conventional skills not enough for this? IMO: PF is much more situational than Explosives. You need to occupy plain tile to benefit from PF. And with tanks for instance You prefer to occupy the tile from where You can kill multiple times and it is not always plains as map is full of mountains and forests also. Cities in its turn are the most time consuming targets at least in conquests and campaigns. Only in Modern War generals are very tough and much more time consuming. And what is much more important for me Explosive has synergy with Leader+AA (and medals consequently).
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Post by stoic on Dec 17, 2017 17:40:52 GMT
Ok, debates "Rumor vs. Plain fighting etc." are over, I presume. And we can agree now, that andrei was right in his assumption. But what about "Explosives vs. Plain fighting etc."? Explosives is a great skill, but 1. It is too situational. 2. Cities' defense can be broken with a solid combination Leader skill+AA (or Accuracy)+Terrain bonus. Yes, we have to penetrate city's defense many times, but are conventional skills not enough for this? IMO: PF is much more situational than Explosives. You need to occupy plain tile to benefit from PF. And with tanks for instance You prefer to occupy the tile from where You can kill multiple times and it is not always plains as map is full of mountains and forests also. Cities in its turn are the most time consuming targets at least in conquests and campaigns. Only in Modern War generals are very tough and much more time consuming. And what is much more important for me Explosive has synergy with Leader+AA (and medals consequently). That's for sure. But is there, for example, a great difference between Guderian and Rommel when they attack the cities? I mean isn't it like Infantry Invasions? There is no difference between best Inf generals like Yamashita and those generals who can be used with the same success as Inf generals (Konev, Zhukov etc.) 100% chance of success is more than enough, you don't need 150%.
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Post by The Conqueror on Dec 17, 2017 17:41:57 GMT
What additional skills on Guderian ?
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Post by andrei on Dec 17, 2017 17:56:24 GMT
IMO: PF is much more situational than Explosives. You need to occupy plain tile to benefit from PF. And with tanks for instance You prefer to occupy the tile from where You can kill multiple times and it is not always plains as map is full of mountains and forests also. Cities in its turn are the most time consuming targets at least in conquests and campaigns. Only in Modern War generals are very tough and much more time consuming. And what is much more important for me Explosive has synergy with Leader+AA (and medals consequently). That's for sure. But is there, for example, a great difference between Guderian and Rommel when they attack the cities? I mean isn't it like Infantry Invasions? There is no difference between best Inf generals like Yamashita and those generals who can be used with the same success as Inf generals (Konev, Zhukov etc.) 100% chance of success is more than enough, you don't need 150%. Never was comparing exactly what is the difference, but it is quite significant. My Guderian has leader and AA medals and Rommel uses just Crossfire. You see for someone it will not be so significant (depends on how You allocate the medals and skills for Your gens) as using Explosives without medals could probably give worse results. IDK. But when it triggers city's defence is just nothing for my Guderian. And it is not 150%, as my other tank generals performance against city is quite weak. And what is great as he can attack again after city's fortification destruction. Even against huge cities with unit inside it is normally enough to attack it with artillery and to finish it with Guderian.
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Post by bruno1971 on Aug 21, 2018 10:10:08 GMT
How much money or time did you spend to have all these generals and their upgrades? It is impossible to win that many medals through campaigns and missions. I only spend money for Manstein and 3 x 320 medals but medal progress takes ages (30-40 medals/day with 5 invasions and 50% extra medals).
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 21, 2018 16:36:34 GMT
How much money or time did you spend to have all these generals and their upgrades? It is impossible to win that many medals through campaigns and missions. I only spend money for Manstein and 3 x 320 medals but medal progress takes ages (30-40 medals/day with 5 invasions and 50% extra medals). A lot. Like 30000 medals. But you don’t have to have all of them. You can do it without an infantry general. As for navy, you don’t have to buy donitz at all. Kutznetsov has all of the navy skills you will ever need, and even sailor to boot. Im sure that for 10000 medals, you can build a very strong team with leeb, arnold, messe, timoshenko, vatutin, and kuznetsov. For now, worry about getting more generals over uprading their skills, unless its rumor.
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