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Post by General William T. Sherman on Oct 30, 2015 22:07:40 GMT
Figured that we might as well have language lessons. Time to review up on my Italian: Today's lesson: Chapter 1:Beginner Phrases Ciao-Hello Buongiorno-Good Morning Buonasera-Good Evening Piacere di conoscerti-Nice to meet you Arrivederci, a presto-Goodbye, see you soon
Come ti Chiami?-What is your name? Mi chiamo...-My name is... Di dove sei?-Where are you from? Vengo da...-I am from... Quanti anni hai?-How old are you? Ho...anni-I am...years old.
Chapter 2 is tomorrow!
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Post by saltin on Oct 31, 2015 5:13:58 GMT
Ciao been adopted in other languages I think,I heard it from non-Italians before.
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Post by Jean Lannes on Oct 31, 2015 5:38:25 GMT
In Swiss German we sometimes say Tschau which if said in Swiss German spells Ciao in Italian. So yes saltin is right. Ciao is worldwide used I guess, same as va bene.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Oct 31, 2015 11:21:33 GMT
I heard Saltin wanted audio files for these. I can't really provide them here, but I can tell you where I find this vocabulary:
I find all the Italian stuff from an app called Busuu. They also have language lessons for Portuguese (something else I experimented in), French, Turkish, Russian etc. It's a free app, and you can start one language lesson for free. After that, you need to pay money though. You can do a cheat and download individual classes (they also have individual apps for individual languages), and those languages will be added to your lessons for the main Busuu app.
But anyways, they have audio files for these and they're super helpful.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Oct 31, 2015 11:53:01 GMT
Chapter 2: Feelings Come stai?-How are you? Bene, grazie-Fine, thanks Cosí cosí-So-so E tu?-And you? Felice-Happy Triste-sad Stanco/Stanca-Tired È fantastico!-That's great! Che peccato-That's a pity
Key Phrases: Sono molto felice!-I am very happy! Lui è molto triste-He is very sad Sono stanco-I am tired
Now, from what Italian we've now learned, and their English translations, we can pick apart the key phrases and find out more Italian vocabulary (I.e, now we can deduce that Sono is I am and Lui is he). We can also deduce that accents are extremely important, as an "e" without an backwards accent means "and", and an "è" with a backwards accent means "is".
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Oct 31, 2015 18:24:43 GMT
Chapter 3:Personal Pronouns (Singular) and Nationalities/Languages. Vocabulary: Io-I Tu-You Lui/Lei-He/She Inglese-English Spagnolo-Spanish Francese-French Tedesco-German
Key Phrases: Io parlo inglese-I speak English Tu parli spagnolo-You speak Spanish Lui parla francese-He speaks French Lei parla tedesco-She speaks German
Questions: In order to make questions in Italian thus far, the general rule is to simply add a question mark after the phrase that is being used (Lui parla francese?). But the exception is for You (Tu). When asking a question to someone directly, you drop the pronoun "tu" and add a question mark at the end of the phrase (Parli inglese?). Parli inglese?-Do you speak English? Lui parla francese?-Does he speak French? Lei parla tedesco?-Does she speak German?
Negatives: In order to make a phrase negative in Italian, you must put "Non" in front of the action verb in the sentence. Negative Sentences: Io non parlo spagnolo-I don't speak Spanish Tu non parli inglese-You don't speak English Lui non parla francese-He doesn't speak French Lei non parla tedesco-She doesn't speak German
Our first action verb in Italian that we have learned is "Parlo", meaning "to speak". Now, unfortunately, I do not know the infinitive version of the verbs yet, but i do know how to conjugate them. You must conjugate action verbs to make them fit the pronoun. Here is a list of conjugations for the pronouns we know now: Action Verb:Parlo (to speak) Io:Parlo Tu:Parli Lui/Lei:Parla
A lot of new stuff in Chapter 3, but this is just the beginning!
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Oct 31, 2015 20:03:38 GMT
Note:In order to convey that you are asking a question when speaking, simply raise your voice.
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Post by saltin on Nov 6, 2015 10:27:29 GMT
Forgot to post about it but I added a sound cloud button to the forum specifically for the foreign language classes,I though the classes were cool,I like hearing and trying the languages but we needed to hear how to pronounce these words. Anyways, that's the button to the right of the dice.
Ahh now let's see if this works.
https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Ffluentli%2Flearn-italian-lesson-1
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Nov 21, 2015 21:03:48 GMT
Chapter 4 after a very long hiatus (very sorry) Chapter 4:Appearances, sports and Pronouns Vocabulary: l'uomo-man la donna-woman il ragazzo-boy la ragazza-girl l'amico/l'amica-friend il collega/la collega-colleague anziano/anziana-old giovane-young single-single (relationship wise) sposato/sposata-married noi-we voi-you loro-they giocato-play tennis-tennis calcio-football/soccer pallacanestro-basketball alto-tall basso/bassa-short occhi-eyes gli occhi azzurri-blue eyes gli occhi marroni-brown eyes gli occhi verdi-green eyes capelli-hair capelli biondi-blond hair capelli marroni-brown hair capelli neri-black hair capelli rossi-red hair capelli bianchi-white hair i capelli lunghi-long hair i capelli corti-short hair calvo/calva-bald i baffi-moustache la barba-beard
Translation: I want you guys to translate these sentences and then message them to me. I will then see how well you've done. 1.L'uomo ha i capelli corti- 2.Giovanni è anziano- 3.Loro giocano a pallacanestro- 4.Sono molto alto- 5.Il ragazzo è giovane-
Gender: Gender is extremely important in Italian. Many words are the same for both genders and the only way you will be able to identify if the speaker is male or female is by the word in front (Il or La). La is used for feminine words and Il is used for masculine words. When there is a masculine word that begins with a vowel, you do not use Il anymore and and put l' in front of the word instead (l'uomo). There are ways to identify the gender by how the word is said as well, however. Masculine words will typically have an 'o' at the end of the word, while feminine words typically have an 'a' at the end of the word.
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Post by Jean Lannes on Nov 22, 2015 12:22:51 GMT
Gender is similar to French ill (he) and elle (she) le (male) la (female) les (plural) l' (vowel in front)
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Nov 22, 2015 12:25:54 GMT
Gender is similar to French ill (he) and elle (she) le (male) la (female) les (plural) l' (vowel in front) Yes, except you use Il and Elle for verbs for the most part and you use Le, La, Les, and l' for everything else that requires the word "the"
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Post by Jean Lannes on Nov 22, 2015 12:47:28 GMT
Gender is similar to French ill (he) and elle (she) le (male) la (female) les (plural) l' (vowel in front) Yes, except you use Il and Elle for verbs for the most part and you use Le, La, Les, and l' for everything else that requires the word "the" Yes that's what I meant
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Nov 23, 2015 21:28:41 GMT
Here are just some Do's and Don't's for Italy and other Italian speaking areas around the world: Italy: Don't: Call Italians Fascists (It's like calling Germans Nazis). Think that all Italians love Pizza and Pasta. Refer to people such as Venetians as Italians. Think that the Mafia rules the country. Speak only in English;English is not widespread in Italy like it is in the Nordic Countries, Germany, or France. Italian knowledge is recommended. Do: Say that Corsica is rightful Italian land (this will piss off the French) Say that Dalmatia, Trieste and South Tyrol are also rightful Italian land Enjoy Italian Food Visit the awesome historical and religious sites.
Croatia: Don't: Mention WWII Mention the Yugoslav Wars
Slovenia: Don't: Say that the Italian speaking people there are Italians. It's like saying Argentines are Spanish because they speak the language.
Switzerland: Don't: Say they're Italians.
Libya: Don't: Mention colonialism unless it is against the Italians Look American or Western;You may be gone after.
Somalia: Don't: Call them all pirates Look at them like they're backwards people Mention colonialism unless it is against the English or Italians Do: Say that the Ogaden is rightful Somali Land
I will also post what countries were colonized by the Italians, had a large Italian influence, or have a large Italian speaking community.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Nov 23, 2015 21:58:02 GMT
Key: Dark Blue:Native language Light Bkue:Used officially under Italian colonial administration/large minority of Italian speakers Green:Immigrant communities where Italian is widely spoken. Native Language Nations: Italy:Italian is the dominant language. Switzerland:The use of Italian has heavily decreased here since the 1970's, but two cantons still use it officially. San Marino:Italian is dominant. Vatican City:Not official, but is most used language and is used on documents. Malta:2/3 of the population speaks Italian. Large Minority Nations: Slovenia:Istria has a lot of Italian speakers. Croatia:Heavily dominant in Dalmatia France:Popular in Corsica and Savoy and Nice. Montenegro:Some on the coast. Albania:Small communities of Italians. Colonial Nations/areas: Libya:Colonized in 1912 after the Italo-Turkish War. Italian decreased during Maummar Ghaddafis reign when he expelled all Italian speakers. Eritrea:Colonized in the 1880's. One Italian school in the capital. Somalia:Colonized in the 1880's. Italian decreased during the Somali Civil War. Ethiopia:Resisted Italian Colonialism in the 1890's. Fell under Italian Hegemony in 1937. Italian is nearly not used at all here. Dodecanese Islands:Taken in 1912 after Italo-Turkish War. Given to Greece after WWII. Not many Italin speakers here. Albania:Taken over after WWI, but then withdrew. Re annexed in 1939. Given independence again after WWII. Small Italian speaking communities. Immigrant Communities: America:Large amounts of Americans with Italian descent, but Italian is only spoken by around a million people. Canada:Second most popular foreign language (not combining Cantonese and Mandarin). Mexico:Large community in Mexico City. Brazil:Co-official language next to Portuguese. Uruguay:Large Italian speaking community. Argentina:Second most common language after Spanish. Australia:Second most common immigrant language after Mandarin. Japan:Very large immigrant community in Tokyo. Venezuela:Italian speaking community in Bogota Belgium:Small Italian community Germany:Small Italian Community Greece:Italian speaking community in Athens Israel:Large Italian Jewish community in Jerusalem. So as you can see, Italian is extremely important throughout the world, so don't just think that you'll use it for your trip to Venice. Very important in the Western Hemisphere and Southern Europe.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Nov 23, 2015 23:55:36 GMT
Tomorrow:More Italian lessons!
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