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Post by saltin on Mar 19, 2015 4:55:58 GMT
We know (or think we know) there is a need to have:
1/A game finish of about 30 turns.
2/A good progression in the campaign mode.
3/Years ruled of 850 in Europe for Victoria and 550 years in Asia for Lan.
Ressources aquired are also used to compute your score/years ruled
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Post by Anonymous on Mar 21, 2015 19:30:54 GMT
Is the part about obtaining more campaign stars will add to your score in conquest true?
I mean, I've beaten America in ~20 turns (1812, United Kingdom) yet I still only managed to get 450 years on Asia for example, so I can't help but think that there are other modifiers at play...
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Post by saltin on Mar 22, 2015 2:06:57 GMT
K 1st part,about the stars: none but Easytech has the exact formula,I too still dont have the last 2 princess but still here is more info:
One can finish a great conquest game and not receive a princess then that player can go and finish a few mission in campaign mode,come back to conquest mode and do nothing other than load his old save game(last turn before victory) and win a princess.
So this is telling us that SOMETHING in the campaign mode progression is related to unloacking the princess.This also kinda make sense because the game designer probably dont want you to unlock the most powerfull free generals too early.That trigger might be stars (i kinda doubt it because someone unloacked Lan with only 200 stars) or it might be the ranking/lvl in the achievement screen or it might be an internal trigger that we dont even see.
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Post by saltin on Mar 22, 2015 2:27:40 GMT
The second part about having beaten the American scenario in less than 30 turns and not receiving Lan or Victoria.
As far as I know you cannot receive the elite 2 princess (update: you can receive Lan but not Victoria) in the USA scenario,the only 3 or so players i know that unlocked them got them from playing Europe.USA play unlocks Kate and Sakurako although you can also get the latter in Europe.
So you need to play HRE(holy roman empire)
98.Now here is the deal when you are about done,i suggest try this:
When you get to last turn and BEFORE you kill the last unit (or conquer the last place) save game,and try different victory combination for the ratio of turns/ressources. Higher number of turns lower your score but sometimes large number of ressources produced can increase your score,so you could possibly go from 800 years rule @30 turns (which doesnt unlock Victoria) to 850 years rule (which unlocks her) @31 turns.
Also upgrade all buildings early to max ressources and increase score.
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Post by Anonymous on Mar 22, 2015 21:46:29 GMT
Hm, alright.
By the way, am I the only one who prefers Great Britain in the '98 scenario? Personally, I feel that the HRE has too many fronts, so it's actually more efficient to let the AI run it as a sandbag.
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Post by saltin on Mar 23, 2015 8:22:42 GMT
Anon,HRE98 might not be the only possible way to unlock them but it's hard to beat what HRE offers,its huge size give you relative fast access to all enemies,and it has a the biggest economy which in a 30 turn game is a fantastic edge.
I have tried different strategies including playing countries rated at 2 stars like saxony 1806 because these countries let you field 6 generals not 3 but their poor economy really puts the brake on expansion.
All corner countries like G.B. are difficult because some of your enemies might be 20 turns walking distance.The AI is ok at attacking but extremelly bad at complete conquest,they usually always leave some enemy units/buildings around.You cant really count on them imo.
There is another option that Mdog reported that has won him Lan:
An economic victory,basically HRE98 with 2 combat generals and 1 econ general sitting in town and not conquering,The extra ressources produced by the time he finished the conquest at 31 turns made a difference.
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Post by Anonymous on Mar 23, 2015 13:07:26 GMT
Really? As long as you move your fleet from Malta over to the Balkans, you effectively have two fronts of conquest: Ottomans and France, and eventually spreading North (Netherlands/Denmark) and South (Spain/Italy) from the latter. The actual order and method of conquest is the same except that you don't have to deal with Denmark/Poland/Italy eating your resources right off the bat (since I'd assume most of your generals are busy hitting France or Ottomans). After all, let us remember that while HRE has easy to access its enemies, it also isn't capable of fighting all its right off the bat. The only problem I could think of is the AI not managing to finish off Poland in time, but that has not really been the case for me. Here's a picture I made a while ago (but never posted) as an example (Ignore the wait until turn 3 part; that was written for people without any generals):  |
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Post by Anonymous on Mar 24, 2015 1:24:50 GMT
I have obtained Lan!
First, Campaign stars do matter in terms of score for Conquest mode; I loaded up an old save after having finished additional campaigns and was granted the princess.
Second, Lan requires 550 years on Asia, as many suspected. Here are my final stats on that save:
Round: 24
Gold: 2698
Industry: 1307
Food: 3916
Medals Earned: 27
Scenario: 1812 America (United Kingdom)
Campaign Stars: 215
So it is in fact possible to obtain the Qing princess on America, after all, although it would be more preferrable to spam Europe in hopes of getting both Lan and Victoria.
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Post by saltin on Mar 24, 2015 11:42:51 GMT
Late response Anon but still:
********Gratz on Lan*******
All you need now is Victoria and you are set.
About GB vs HRE,well since I dont have Victoria either I am more than willing to try different approach.
If it works, we'll make a new guide and include your battle plan pic too!
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Post by saltin on Mar 24, 2015 11:49:14 GMT
Ohh and I forgot to mention,I did have a confused moment with the Lan 500 years figure.
European years are not the same as Asian years,so thanks for the earlier clarification.
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Post by kanue on Mar 26, 2015 12:10:32 GMT
The GB plan sounds great!!! I am so bored with countless of time on HRE.
Here's info about my save that I got Lan.
Round: 28
Gold: 12xx
Industry: 7xx
Food: 15xx
Scenario: 1798 Europe (HRE)
Campaign Stars: 402
I finished another HRE98 with much higher resources but still at 800 years rule and cant get Victoria. So I think there are more conditions required in order to get her.
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Post by saltin on Apr 19, 2015 9:15:04 GMT
So..Victoria was a 26 turns game,HRE.
Can we have stats on years ruled and ressources if available ?
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Apr 19, 2015 11:49:32 GMT
I personally believe that Great Britain is the best way to go, like what anon has said. It's not so good for 30 turns (granted, I haven't tried doing that yet) but I think it's better than HRE.
First off, send your fleet near the ottomans to albania and take Tirana, and just spawn artillery there until you take Athens, when you can use infantry, or the stable near Tirana either, when you can use cav. Either way is effective. Then I'd recommend pushing on anotolia whike sending another force north toward Belgrade to weaken the ottomans by taking their economic centers.
Then take istanbul.
Second, the two ships you have near spain, use them to take the spanish port THATS near Bordeaux, and then push north toward the french port on their jutting penninsula. After you've secured the area from enemy ships, fire in Bordeaux, but make sure not to defeat the troops stationed there. If you defeat him, theyll respawn, and you've got to keep firing. The reason you do this is so that when your troops arrive at Bordeaux, they can easily take the city.
Third, using the two ships and the one or two infantry in Scotland, send them over to denmark and take Kiel. The Danes will try to stop you, just make sure they don't hit your infantry. Using the ships, bombard Kiel until your infantry can easily enter the city. Then proceed to take over scandinavia (note, do all of these at once).
Finally, group your forces in England and Ireland together, and ATTACK northern France, specifically the area where the LVL one town is. Once the generals there are defeated, build up that town, and use it as a base for attacking the Netherlands. Then once the Dutch are defeated, build up your forces, and storm paris once you have enough troops. Once paris falls, secure the north, and divide your french forces so that one is moving toward Spain, and another for italy.
This is how I won. Sorry if it's confusing.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Apr 19, 2015 12:52:49 GMT
Kanue, HEAL US PLEASE!
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Post by Anonymous on Apr 19, 2015 14:47:23 GMT
Here are my statistics on Victoria:
Round: 26 Gold: 9999 Industry: 3679 Food: 9535 Medals Earned: 47 Scenario: 1798 Europe (Holy Roman Empire) Years Ruled: 850 Campaign Stars: 420 Here is also my strategy for that save, in case anyone is interested:  Circles represent battles that may consume more than one or two turns. The French-Imperial border is a rectangle because of how long and how much effort taking out 3 generals, one of them on Heavy Artillery to boot, will take. Note that while not shown on the map, you should be spamming troops as soon as you take Barcelona and start your march into Spain to make that last leg of the journey as swift as possible. Finally, my Danish front consisted only of the single Cavalry general nearby, considering how narrow Jutland is, it's not advised to take any more than the minimum necessary, and simply spam units once you reach the port or a city in Norway. Also, the British are best when aiming for <50 or <40 turns, because they are both really easy and relatively fast to do, but HRE still wins by far if aiming for <30 turns I find. Spain is just too much of a roadblock for extremely fast clears.
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