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Post by Iron Duke on Feb 8, 2018 17:17:50 GMT
I've reached the point where I haven't made any real progress for a while and am not sure where my focus should be on improving my team so thought I'd open it up for suggestions and see what comes out.
Still to do (that's meaningful):
Attack - New Orleans, Wuhan, Volgograd, Panama, Rio, Atlanta, LA.
Campaign - Last one & 3* for the Titan ring.
Defence - Osaka & Vancouver.
Team (+ skills levels L-R), all elites:
Alex 1,5,1; Nobunaga 1,10,10; Saladin 1,10,1; Nelson 10,1,1; Li Shimin 1,10,1; Li Hongzhang 6,10,1; Bismarck 1,1,1; Jhansi 10,10.
Best (?) reserves:
Barbarossa 1,1,1, 3*; Mocte 2,7,2, 4*
I also have all the coin and free generals.
Equipment
Paladin Sword is the only thing I've spent medals on and I have all the other free ones apart from the 2 defences.
So it seems like my options are to keep upgrading skills for the elites, swap in someone else, recruit someone new, buy some more kit, or any combination of these options.
Obviously the 5 & 6 skills for Alex & Li will be 10s eventually but I just can't see them making that critical difference to actually complete any of the things I'm stuck on and after that I wouldn't know what to prioritise.
What say you guys?
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Post by stoic on Feb 9, 2018 5:41:46 GMT
I've reached the point where I haven't made any real progress for a while and am not sure where my focus should be on improving my team so thought I'd open it up for suggestions and see what comes out. Still to do (that's meaningful): Attack - New Orleans, Wuhan, Volgograd, Panama, Rio, Atlanta, LA. Campaign - Last one & 3* for the Titan ring. Defence - Osaka & Vancouver. Team (+ skills levels L-R), all elites: Alex 1,5,1; Nobunaga 1,10,10; Saladin 1,10,1; Nelson 10,1,1; Li Shimin 1,10,1; Li Hongzhang 6,10,1; Bismarck 1,1,1; Jhansi 10,10. Best (?) reserves: Barbarossa 1,1,1, 3*; Mocte 2,7,2, 4* I also have all the coin and free generals. Equipment Paladin Sword is the only thing I've spent medals on and I have all the other free ones apart from the 2 defences. So it seems like my options are to keep upgrading skills for the elites, swap in someone else, recruit someone new, buy some more kit, or any combination of these options. Obviously the 5 & 6 skills for Alex & Li will be 10s eventually but I just can't see them making that critical difference to actually complete any of the things I'm stuck on and after that I wouldn't know what to prioritise. What say you guys? 1. The last one campaign is surprisingly easy. Have you read this thread european-war-4.boards.net/thread/5185/star-guide-request-salvation-istanbul ? 2. Li's lvl 10 Commander skill is essential. Now you loose a significant percent of attack. Nobunaga's first skill is an excellent additon, to be honest, when used properly (for example, when all Commander's skills are triggered and you have to eliminate a couple of difficult targets). 3. Imo, your Bismarck is too weak to obtain the Titan ring. Upgrade his first two skills up to llvl 10, the same is true for Li Shimin's first skill. It will give you 180% attack increase for both of your Art generals in crucial moment of the final attack. 4. Osaka & Vancouver. You can win all these battles only with some luck on your side. And that means... Rumor actually. As I said upgrade Bismarck's Rumor and try again. Sooner or later you will be able to break through. For example, against Khan a combination Bismarck/Li/Nobunaga is a deadly weapon. 5. Saladin alone is too weak for final battles... He should be replaced. In your case either by Yi Sun-sin or by Jebe. There is only one Cav general who is able to act alone quite efficient and his name is Attila. In fact some minor details (Rumor or Nobunaga's sniper skill) can change a lot of things... |
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Post by Iron Duke on Feb 9, 2018 14:26:28 GMT
1. The last one campaign is surprisingly easy. Have you read this thread european-war-4.boards.net/thread/5185/star-guide-request-salvation-istanbul ? 2. Li's lvl 10 Commander skill is essential. Now you loose a significant percent of attack. Nobunaga's first skill is an excellent additon, to be honest, when used properly (for example, when all Commander's skills are triggered and you have to eliminate a couple of difficult targets). 3. Imo, your Bismarck is too weak to obtain the Titan ring. Upgrade his first two skills up to llvl 10, the same is true for Li Shimin's first skill. It will give you 180% attack increase for both of your Art generals in crucial moment of the final attack. 4. Osaka & Vancouver. You can win all these battles only with some luck on your side. And that means... Rumor actually. As I said upgrade Bismarck's Rumor and try again. Sooner or later you will be able to break through. For example, against Khan a combination Bismarck/Li/Nobunaga is a deadly weapon. 5. Saladin alone is too weak for final battles... He should be replaced. In your case either by Yi Sun-sin or by Jebe. There is only one Cav general who is able to act alone quite efficient and his name is Attila. In fact some minor details (Rumor or Nobunaga's sniper skill) can change a lot of things... Cheers Stoic 1. Nope, I've made it this far without any guides or "how to"s and I hope to keep it that way. Cheating is definitely too strong a word, but my sense of achievement would certainly be diminished if I just followed someone else's instructions. 2, 3 & 4. Good to know, thanks. Like I said I was struggling to assess which other skills were worthy of upgrading. Funnily enough though I did manage to get the Titan ring last night  A minor tweak in strategy/tactics took me from 1* to two hits away from 3*, and I was able to get it on the next try. Funny old game! 5. This is the only point I don't like, although it is for emotional rather than rational reasons! He's possibly my favourite general to play with. When you say he's too weak do you mean he dies too easily or doesn't hit hard enough? Or both? Or something else? I must admit your comments brought out my competitive side too though, if I managed it would I be the first to complete the game using him in my final non-CavCom lineup without IAPs? Having said that though I like the idea of having options too. I don't really fancy Yi but I am curious about Attila & Jebe. More ruminating required I guess but I've got enough skills to upgrade to keep me busy while I decide if another recruit is necessary. P.S. I know there's been a guide thread for the Titan ring floating around recently, I'll have to head over and see if we all did it the same way. |
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Post by stoic on Feb 9, 2018 17:41:36 GMT
1. The last one campaign is surprisingly easy. Have you read this thread european-war-4.boards.net/thread/5185/star-guide-request-salvation-istanbul ? 2. Li's lvl 10 Commander skill is essential. Now you loose a significant percent of attack. Nobunaga's first skill is an excellent additon, to be honest, when used properly (for example, when all Commander's skills are triggered and you have to eliminate a couple of difficult targets). 3. Imo, your Bismarck is too weak to obtain the Titan ring. Upgrade his first two skills up to llvl 10, the same is true for Li Shimin's first skill. It will give you 180% attack increase for both of your Art generals in crucial moment of the final attack. 4. Osaka & Vancouver. You can win all these battles only with some luck on your side. And that means... Rumor actually. As I said upgrade Bismarck's Rumor and try again. Sooner or later you will be able to break through. For example, against Khan a combination Bismarck/Li/Nobunaga is a deadly weapon. 5. Saladin alone is too weak for final battles... He should be replaced. In your case either by Yi Sun-sin or by Jebe. There is only one Cav general who is able to act alone quite efficient and his name is Attila. In fact some minor details (Rumor or Nobunaga's sniper skill) can change a lot of things... Cheers Stoic 1. Nope, I've made it this far without any guides or "how to"s and I hope to keep it that way. Cheating is definitely too strong a word, but my sense of achievement would certainly be diminished if I just followed someone else's instructions. 2, 3 & 4. Good to know, thanks. Like I said I was struggling to assess which other skills were worthy of upgrading. Funnily enough though I did manage to get the Titan ring last night A minor tweak in strategy/tactics took me from 1* to two hits away from 3*, and I was able to get it on the next try. Funny old game! 5. This is the only point I don't like, although it is for emotional rather than rational reasons! He's possibly my favourite general to play with. When you say he's too weak do you mean he dies too easily or doesn't hit hard enough? Or both? Or something else? I must admit your comments brought out my competitive side too though, if I managed it would I be the first to complete the game using him in my final non-CavCom lineup without IAPs? Having said that though I like the idea of having options too. I don't really fancy Yi but I am curious about Attila & Jebe. More ruminating required I guess but I've got enough skills to upgrade to keep me busy while I decide if another recruit is necessary. P.S. I know there's been a guide thread for the Titan ring floating around recently, I'll have to head over and see if we all did it the same way. 1. That makes sense. But if you can't solve this after all, - you know where you can find some help  5. My honest opinion is that quite a lot of generals in EW5 have more potential than it seemed to be at first sight. I can only wish a good luck to you, hoping that you can add another name in the final lineups. Once I introduced Peter the Great as a first team member... And Saladin is definitely stronger (at least on paper ) than Peter. |
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Post by Iron Duke on Feb 11, 2018 13:59:01 GMT
5. My honest opinion is that quite a lot of generals in EW5 have more potential than it seemed to be at first sight. I can only wish a good luck to you, hoping that you can add another name in the final lineups. Once I introduced Peter the Great as a first team member... And Saladin is definitely stronger (at least on paper ) than Peter. Cheers, time will tell if I can pull it off or not. Do you happen to know if there's a thread with everyone who's completed the game's final lineup? I found this one european-war-4.boards.net/thread/6183/finaly-beat-volgograd but I thought there was another one knocking around somewhere? However I could be mistaken. |
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Post by stoic on Feb 12, 2018 4:05:53 GMT
5. My honest opinion is that quite a lot of generals in EW5 have more potential than it seemed to be at first sight. I can only wish a good luck to you, hoping that you can add another name in the final lineups. Once I introduced Peter the Great as a first team member... And Saladin is definitely stronger (at least on paper ) than Peter. Cheers, time will tell if I can pull it off or not. Do you happen to know if there's a thread with everyone who's completed the game's final lineup? I found this one european-war-4.boards.net/thread/6183/finaly-beat-volgograd but I thought there was another one knocking around somewhere? However I could be mistaken. As far as I remember there was not such a thread summarizing all results and lineups... Though I think there should be one  |
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Post by Singlemalt on Feb 12, 2018 7:17:17 GMT
I think there was. I think inposted my final line up somewhere i think
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Post by Iron Duke on Feb 15, 2018 14:46:20 GMT
So it's been a week since my OP and I've managed to get the Titan Ring, chalk off Atlanta & NO, and I completed Osaka last night.
The moral of the story being that this is a stage of the game where patience, determination and perseverance are required in order to keep making any progress, never mind finishing the whole game.
It's a case of many attempts at every mission, tweaking strategy, improving your team by degrees, edging closer until you have the strength and the right plan to complete whichever one you're attempting.
Stoic has mentioned several times about the patience required to complete this game and he's spot on!
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Post by kyokusanagi on Feb 16, 2018 9:58:56 GMT
or spend some $$$ to have victory withot thinking.
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Post by stoic on Feb 16, 2018 10:34:26 GMT
or spend some $$$ to have victory withot thinking. It is impossible in EW5. IAP generals are good but they are not a way better than the rest, and deffinitely they alone (without thinking) are insufficient for victory... |
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Post by dain on Feb 16, 2018 11:11:36 GMT
or spend some $$$ to have victory withot thinking. It is impossible in EW5. IAP generals are good but they are not a way better than the rest, and deffinitely they alone (without thinking) are insufficient for victory... ^ This. IAP generals could be an ease for the beginning, but with medals/literature you're just buying time. And frankly, even with unlimited medals, all IAP generals and the best items, last campaigns and few last empire cities cannot be won with brute force. P.S. still trying Volgograd, and last attempt was really close: All cleared except the enemy sitting in the last objective in the city. In turn 40 he still has roughly half HP left. But my strategy is clear now. And about spending money: This game is really the most challenging I've ever played, and it brought (and still is bringing) me great fun. I would buy some IAP general, just as a kind of thanks for Easy Tech, but I cannot (probably Windows version bug, or maybe something with my carrier...) |
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Post by Singlemalt on Feb 16, 2018 12:12:35 GMT
I agree IAP just buying time and it cost you strategic fun I liked EW5 indeed also the most (despite the cartonish generals) |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Feb 17, 2018 11:04:40 GMT
Yep, even with a pure brute force, endgame stages (campaigns & empire) aren't a joke. Anyways, back to main topic, I'd suggest that Nelson be used over Babarossa is most situations. 3 hex VS 1 hex. Bismarck is situational, sometimes he's good, others, not so. My normal Empire team usually has Nobunaga Oda, Nelson, Alexander, Atilla & Saladin. |
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Post by rjs on Feb 17, 2018 12:13:13 GMT
Not sure i like the "grinding"and waiting aspect of this one thus far.
But agree just buying IAP's will not get you thru the game.
Takes patience,for sure.
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Post by Iron Duke on Mar 23, 2018 11:36:59 GMT
Update:
I've been playing for about a week again after taking a month or so off and I've chalked off Rio, LA & Wuhan so from the list in the OP I've only got Panama, Volgograd, Vancouver & the final campaign still to do!
To fully complete the whole game I also have to get 3* in a few campaigns and about 5 conquests to do at 1* & 2* but I just view that as a tidying up exercise at this point.
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A minor tweak in strategy/tactics took me from 1* to two hits away from 3*, and I was able to get it on the next try. Funny old game!
