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Jebe
Apr 15, 2021 15:13:44 GMT
Post by andrei on Apr 15, 2021 15:13:44 GMT
If You want just one archer in Your team it is deffinetely Nobunaga. It is just no reason to avoid general providing important debuffs against strong opponents at the same time. He is recommended for absolutely any team. You can go without him it is just more difficult way. I'll definitely get him, eventually, but I won't be able to for a while, because of Li Shimin. I won't avoid him, and I will try to get him right after, but that may take a while. Or should I get Nobby before Li Shimin? I'ld avoid Li Shimin. Way too expensive. |
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Jebe
Apr 15, 2021 15:29:39 GMT
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Post by stoic on Apr 15, 2021 15:29:39 GMT
I think Jebe and to some extent Blucher are obsolete after they gave us Aegis. For sure, Aegis is not an easy item to get, but 75 percent damage reduction is far more than Jebe and Blucher can offer. So buying them means deliberately to choose generals whose most important skills will be overshadowed eventually by a single item. If Armour master is left aside - they don't bring much to the table. Cleopatra with Aegis can replace both...
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Jebe
Apr 15, 2021 15:33:12 GMT
Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 15, 2021 15:33:12 GMT
I think Jebe and to some extent Blucher are obsolete after they gave us Aegis. For sure, Aegis is not an easy item to get, but 75 percent damage reduction is far more than Jebe and Blucher can offer. So buying them means deliberately to choose generals whose most important skills will be overshadowed eventually by a single item. If Armour master is left aside - they don't bring much to the table. Cleopatra with Aegis can replace both... Armor Expert and Master are still important, because Aegis can only help the wearer. It is not an aura. I love those two skills. |
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Jebe
Apr 15, 2021 15:34:14 GMT
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Post by stoic on Apr 15, 2021 15:34:14 GMT
I think Jebe and to some extent Blucher are obsolete after they gave us Aegis. For sure, Aegis is not an easy item to get, but 75 percent damage reduction is far more than Jebe and Blucher can offer. So buying them means deliberately to choose generals whose most important skills will be overshadowed eventually by a single item. If Armour master is left aside - they don't bring much to the table. Cleopatra with Aegis can replace both... Armor Expert and Master are still important, because Aegis can only help the wearer. It is not an aura. I love those two skills. No, it is exactly the aura |
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Jebe
Apr 15, 2021 15:34:59 GMT
Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 15, 2021 15:34:59 GMT
Armor Expert and Master are still important, because Aegis can only help the wearer. It is not an aura. I love those two skills. No, it is exactly the aura Aegis only affects the wearer. It is not an aura. |
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Jebe
Apr 15, 2021 15:43:06 GMT
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Post by stoic on Apr 15, 2021 15:43:06 GMT
No, it is exactly the aura Aegis only affects the wearer. It is not an aura. Yes, just tested it, you are right. My point is invalid then... |
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Jebe
Apr 15, 2021 17:29:11 GMT
Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 15, 2021 17:29:11 GMT
So, anyway, should I get Nobby or Li Shimin, or Jebe?
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Jebe
Apr 16, 2021 2:22:47 GMT
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Post by stoic on Apr 16, 2021 2:22:47 GMT
So, anyway, should I get Nobby or Li Shimin, or Jebe? As andrei said Li Shimin is a very expensive general. Probably the most expensive general in the game. Yet if you plan to use only one Artillery general he might be your best choice because he's powerful and has an excellent survivability. Quite likely you will give one of the mythological weapons to him as well, because the number of generals able to equip them is rather limited. But free generals like Khalid, Cleopatra and Bismarck are not far behind of LiShimin, so you have to think whether you want to pay a ton of medals. I think Jebe is viable only when he's supported by at least 2 Commanders. And Nobunaga is really one of the best generals in the game. You can deploy him everywhere, in every mode of the game... |
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Jebe
Apr 16, 2021 11:09:23 GMT
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 16, 2021 11:09:23 GMT
So, anyway, should I get Nobby or Li Shimin, or Jebe? As andrei said Li Shimin is a very expensive general. Probably the most expensive general in the game. Yet if you plan to use only one Artillery general he might be your best choice because he's powerful and has an excellent survivability. Quite likely you will give one of the mythological weapons to him as well, because the number of generals able to equip them is rather limited. But free generals like Khalid, Cleopatra and Bismarck are not far behind of LiShimin, so you have to think whether you want to pay a ton of medals. I think Jebe is viable only when he's supported by at least 2 Commanders. And Nobunaga is really one of the best generals in the game. You can deploy him everywhere, in every mode of the game... I really want Nobby, but in previous playthroughs I opened with Li, and I am having trouble with not having an awesome Arty General. However, Cleo is fine I think. |
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Jebe
Apr 16, 2021 12:44:56 GMT
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Post by Iron Duke on Apr 16, 2021 12:44:56 GMT
Aegis only affects the wearer. It is not an aura. Yes, just tested it, you are right. My point is invalid then... They may not be obsolete but neither is your point completely invalid. As well as opening up opportunities for some of the lower ranked generals the recent updates have also downgraded some of the previous superstars' appeal. Blucher for example, will still make his way into some/many CavCom teams but I'd say he's no longer a must-have as he was previously: if we say 2 commanders (Attila+Edward/Suri) then your 3rd will be to hold Gungnir and Saladin/Hannibal are more economical choices, and if your 4th is earmarked for another artefact then you might think he's not worth the expense. |
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Post by kanue on Apr 17, 2021 18:07:07 GMT
Nobunaga is great because of the two debuffs he is delivering. Jebe skills are very bad. Iirc he will receive mobility when maxed as a perk. But in order to really benefit from it he needs firepower, which he lacks... His USP is his Mobility, and with a couple of Commanders backing him up he can be quite devastating to an enemy horde, but without the power to one-shot kill he is average at best. I can confirm that he is devastating in that setting since I am doing that myself. But if you really want to put Jebe in that role then you should not rely on his Armor skill anymore, and instead, give him an artifact weapon. With two commander active and enough non-boss enemies around, he can practically spam Ragnarok (kill the main target and injure others then repeatedly kill those injured). But this setting is not that common (there are some in Temple missions, I think) so I'd say Jebe is too situational. But it is good to have him in an ArchCom team given that you have extra medal to spare. |
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