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Post by Suvorov on Nov 19, 2015 19:09:50 GMT
Probably it could be usefull for the forum to make a list of all generals with screenshots of each one in a separate thread? What do You think about it? Is it actually possible? There are most of the screenshots in the web but it is from the generals appearing in the campaigns (with a specific HP and RP and items). But that anyway could be usefull, so it could be easy to find the general and compare all the skills in one thread. that'll be a hell big task with all of the active guys bringing in their generals, then it'll need suvorov's expert advice like he has done previously, only then can it be completed.... But then my already huge post becomes even bigger... If the pictures are too big, the post will become gigantic, if the pictures are too small, nobody can see them |
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Post by Suvorov on Nov 19, 2015 19:29:58 GMT
#31 You are going to pay for this SuvorovI said "He's the opposite of a weapon of mass destruction, like Jean Lannes" I did not mean Jean Lannes is the opposite of a weapon of mass destruction, but that Lannes is a weapon of mass destruction. |
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Post by Grouchy on Nov 23, 2015 11:39:08 GMT
Excellent analysis, and its very helpful. However, I have some comments about the analysis of some generals.
Firstly, I feel that Lannes is more suited for cavalry than infantry. This is because his skills, Geography and Leadership, are not as useful on infantry as compared to cavalry. Cavalry requires geography to move through mountainous terrain, but infantry does not. Also, Leadership is very important for cavalry as they often move into enemy lines to attack artillery, finding themselves flanked. Infantry seldom ever end up moving behind enemy lines. Yes, Lannes does have Assault Art, but it also takes effect if the unit Lannes is on is cavalry. This leaves him with only Mass Fire as the infantry oriented skill. Thus Lannes' skills make him more suited for a cavalry unit.
Another thing is the analysis of Poniatowski. I feel that Poniatowski has very good skills (with the exception of Fireproof, since fire damage is pathetic) that are well suited for cavalry. Geography, Leadership, and Assault Art, this makes him similar to Lannes, except he's weaker than Lannes, due to Lannes having Mass Fire. Poniatowski can make a good cavalry general with high mobility on all terrain if his movement and cavalry stars are upgraded. Yes Poniatowski starts off with pretty bad stars, but they can be upgraded.
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Post by Suvorov on Nov 23, 2015 12:40:52 GMT
Thank you Grouchy . The analysis will be updated today and I will take your remark into account |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Nov 23, 2015 12:49:18 GMT
#31 You are going to pay for this SuvorovI said "He's the opposite of a weapon of mass destruction, like Jean Lannes" I did not mean Jean Lannes is the opposite of a weapon of mass destruction, but that Lannes is a weapon of mass destruction. Funny how much of a difference a comma makes |
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Post by Suvorov on Nov 23, 2015 13:50:37 GMT
I said "He's the opposite of a weapon of mass destruction, like Jean Lannes" I did not mean Jean Lannes is the opposite of a weapon of mass destruction, but that Lannes is a weapon of mass destruction. Funny how much of a difference a comma makes 1. I love eating my friends, family and cat 2. I love eating, my friends, family and cat |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Nov 23, 2015 13:54:53 GMT
Suvorov is the worst general in EW4 Suvorov, is the worst general in EW4  I also got suvorov btw and I must say he is a beast. Lannes is a beast when you use him correctly and he beats Suvorov in terms of diversity but infantry only...let's say it's a tie. |
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 23, 2015 14:08:52 GMT
Excellent analysis, and its very helpful. However, I have some comments about the analysis of some generals. Firstly, I feel that Lannes is more suited for cavalry than infantry. This is because his skills, Geography and Leadership, are not as useful on infantry as compared to cavalry. Cavalry requires geography to move through mountainous terrain, but infantry does not. Also, Leadership is very important for cavalry as they often move into enemy lines to attack artillery, finding themselves flanked. Infantry seldom ever end up moving behind enemy lines. Yes, Lannes does have Assault Art, but it also takes effect if the unit Lannes is on is cavalry. This leaves him with only Mass Fire as the infantry oriented skill. Thus Lannes' skills make him more suited for a cavalry unit. Another thing is the analysis of Poniatowski. I feel that Poniatowski has very good skills (with the exception of Fireproof, since fire damage is pathetic) that are well suited for cavalry. Geography, Leadership, and Assault Art, this makes him similar to Lannes, except he's weaker than Lannes, due to Lannes having Mass Fire. Poniatowski can make a good cavalry general with high mobility on all terrain if his movement and cavalry stars are upgraded. Yes Poniatowski starts off with pretty bad stars, but they can be upgraded. If he is used on Cavalry, his skill Mass Fire is wasted. If he is used on Infantry, all 4 of his skills will be put in effect. Plus he has 5 stars in infantry while I'm pretty sure that he only has 4 in cavalry. That takes 400 medals to fix. |
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 23, 2015 14:10:25 GMT
Suvorov is the worst general in EW4 Suvorov, is the worst general in EW4 I also got suvorov btw and I must say he is a beast. Lannes is a beast when you use him correctly and he beats Suvorov in terms of diversity but infantry only...let's say it's a tie. I bought Lannes too. Suvorov is dealing a lot more damage then him though. |
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Post by Suvorov on Nov 23, 2015 14:40:58 GMT
Yes, it came in extremely handy for this thread. Just want to point out that Brock's skills in this spreadsheet are different from the skills in current game. The info in this spreadsheet is based on data file from Monty loooong ago so the game version might be different. Do you perhaps know where the up-to-date skills can be found? |
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Post by wangchengxy on Nov 23, 2015 15:03:39 GMT
Excellent analysis, and its very helpful. However, I have some comments about the analysis of some generals. Firstly, I feel that Lannes is more suited for cavalry than infantry. This is because his skills, Geography and Leadership, are not as useful on infantry as compared to cavalry. Cavalry requires geography to move through mountainous terrain, but infantry does not. Also, Leadership is very important for cavalry as they often move into enemy lines to attack artillery, finding themselves flanked. Infantry seldom ever end up moving behind enemy lines. Yes, Lannes does have Assault Art, but it also takes effect if the unit Lannes is on is cavalry. This leaves him with only Mass Fire as the infantry oriented skill. Thus Lannes' skills make him more suited for a cavalry unit. Another thing is the analysis of Poniatowski. I feel that Poniatowski has very good skills (with the exception of Fireproof, since fire damage is pathetic) that are well suited for cavalry. Geography, Leadership, and Assault Art, this makes him similar to Lannes, except he's weaker than Lannes, due to Lannes having Mass Fire. Poniatowski can make a good cavalry general with high mobility on all terrain if his movement and cavalry stars are upgraded. Yes Poniatowski starts off with pretty bad stars, but they can be upgraded. If he is used on Cavalry, his skill Mass Fire is wasted. If he is used on Infantry, all 4 of his skills will be put in effect. Plus he has 5 stars in infantry while I'm pretty sure that he only has 4 in cavalry. That takes 400 medals to fix. Geography is useless to infantry. |
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Post by NetherFreek on Nov 23, 2015 15:07:02 GMT
infantery always move the same amount, so the same when your walking on mountains than when your walking on flat land.
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 23, 2015 15:09:44 GMT
Isn't that only with light infantry?
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Post by NetherFreek on Nov 23, 2015 15:12:46 GMT
no
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 23, 2015 15:19:55 GMT
Lol well then that means Suvorov is better due to using 4 skills while Lannes uses 3
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