|
|
Post by stoic on Jun 25, 2019 12:43:31 GMT
 In fact, speaking seriously, I think there is one way, using dsongop ' method. Playing as Netherlands it is relatively simple to bribe Russia 3 times. That gives us 20-21 turns to defeat England and Co. I used to invade Britain via Scotland with two generals. I don't think this will work here. We probably need a direct assault on London. Do you remember how many turns are necessary to capture it? What i dislike about netherlands is that it takes a lot of tries before you can get the results. The original record by you took you more than 50 tries. Which i applaud, but damn. Don't forget our endless farming with Netherlands. Every normal human being will be sick of it sooner or later |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 12:43:39 GMT
I used to think that at least 4 cavalry generals are necessary for effective speedruns, in fact I currently use Blucher, Murat, Davout, Lan, Ney, and Dabrowski. Guess stoic proved me wrong on that one. However, I still strongly agree that generals and units with high mobility are key. I also find it hard to understand why one would use multiple artillery generals in a speedrun. In cojoncio 's examples, he uses Sophia and Scharnhorst, and neither of them are as strong as Napoleon or even John I'd argue. Anyways, I always believed that my France 1798 record was an improvable record (I think 14 rounds might even be possible with luck on the side), and I'm glad cojoncio finally beat it. Now I wonder how long my Polish record will hold, because it sure seems like cojoncio would be grinding for that one. Multiple artillery gens work because of the wonderful technology called "forced march" . I use 2 artillery gens(Alexander and Mahmud) most of the time, and they are just great at securing high lvl cities, coupled with some blasts, should be easy. I don't enjoy redoing records for more than 3 tries, since it takes a lot of time. Also Blucher reigns supreme. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 12:46:40 GMT
What i dislike about netherlands is that it takes a lot of tries before you can get the results. The original record by you took you more than 50 tries. Which i applaud, but damn. Don't forget our endless farming with Netherlands. Every normal human being will be sick of it sooner or later Farming to complete the crimean war succed *Auto corrected*. That's probably the reason why i disliked the crimean war, because it requires near maxed gens and constantly selling your gens and farming. Also, i want to ask how you do your records or conquests in general. Do you just do the trial and error, or make plans on how it goes, try it out, adjust, then do it again? |
|
|
|
Post by stoic on Jun 25, 2019 12:56:41 GMT
Don't forget our endless farming with Netherlands. Every normal human being will be sick of it sooner or later Farming to complete the crimean war succed *Auto corrected*. That's probably the reason why i disliked the crimean war, because it requires near maxed gens and constantly selling your gens and farming. Also, i want to ask how you do your records or conquests in general. Do you just do the trial and error, or make plans on how it goes, try it out, adjust, then do it again? I am a firm believer in planning, at least on strategical level. I like just to play it when the game is relatively new to me. But then I plan all principle movements and adjust my strategy if something is not working. There are several interesting books I've read on planning, and they convinced me that even a bad plan is better than no plan at all... For example, this one Good Strategy Bad Strategy: The Difference and Why It Matters - Richard P. Rumelt audiobookbay.nl/audio-books/good-strategy-bad-strategy-the-difference-and-why-it-matters-richard-p-rumelt/ |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 13:05:27 GMT
Farming to complete the crimean war succed *Auto corrected*. That's probably the reason why i disliked the crimean war, because it requires near maxed gens and constantly selling your gens and farming. Also, i want to ask how you do your records or conquests in general. Do you just do the trial and error, or make plans on how it goes, try it out, adjust, then do it again? I am a firm believer in planning, at least on strategical level. I like just to play it when the game is relatively new to me. But then I plan all principle movements and adjust my strategy if something is not working. There are several interesting books I've read on planning, and they convinced me that even a bad plan is better than no plan at all... For example, this one Good Strategy Bad Strategy: The Difference and Why It Matters - Richard P. Rumelt audiobookbay.nl/audio-books/good-strategy-bad-strategy-the-difference-and-why-it-matters-richard-p-rumelt/I guess were not that different after all . Planning and letting it clash against the reality of the situation is what makes speed runs fun, rather than simply playing. Not as persistent as you tho . |
|
|
|
Post by Navia Lanoira on Jun 25, 2019 13:23:30 GMT
Navia Lanoira , stoic , Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr , oh, also cavalry is op because their high mobility lowers the possibility of making a blunder, thus you can pretty much fck around and you're still gonna have a really good run. For countries that have a lot of infantry during the start, just disband them and build dem lancers. Yes and i am planning for buying lan for my last seat lol |
|
|
|
Post by Navia Lanoira on Jun 25, 2019 13:25:35 GMT
Bla bla bla bla
As I said some posts ago, the best team is the one you feel comfortable playing with. Team lineup weights but what do you with what you have is what really matters. And I insist that aura generals are only worthy if you have someone around to beef up, otherwise a non-aura general as Davout, Lan, Sophia, or Garibaldi might outperform them.
To celebrate my cheap philosophy, I want to claim fastest 1789 1-star record with France, in 15 turns.
Strategy: Murat-Sophia-Sakurako and 2 free infantry generals went to UK. That little cutter in Burdeax along with the 2 line infantery went to Ireland.
Italy was mostly taken by allies, but I helped with the boats left-over after defeating Sardinia and a couple of rifleman
Karl-Massena-Free Massena-Free arty general went to Viena
Davout+Free Davout did all Austria and a portion of Prussia
Garibaldi holded the Eastermost France cities and then counterattacked to Prussia
Lan, as usual, the heaviest task. She helped a bit in Austria, a bit in Prussia, and then she went for that nasty Swedish city in Finland that you need to cross the baltic
Donations: apart from the 2 bribes to Russia, all other founds went to Denmark
Also I would like to claim the lowest score in any conquest muhahahahaha
men the link lol jk |
|
|
|
Post by Navia Lanoira on Jun 25, 2019 13:27:46 GMT
I will do challenging conquests first lol
|
|
|
|
Post by andrei on Jun 25, 2019 13:45:01 GMT
It will be beaten tomorrow I assume The key-point: not to use aura-gens In fact, speaking seriously, I think there is one way, using dsongop ' method. Playing as Netherlands it is relatively simple to bribe Russia 3 times. That gives us 20-21 turns to defeat England and Co. I used to invade Britain via Scotland with two generals. I don't think this will work here. We probably need a direct assault on London. Do you remember how many turns are necessary to capture it? Uhh. That was a century ago. But I remember that once I was in London at turn 14 and considered myself lucky. But after I switched to Warsaw and You remained on Netherlands, so You should remember better  |
|
|
|
Post by Navia Lanoira on Jun 25, 2019 13:52:39 GMT
In fact, speaking seriously, I think there is one way, using dsongop ' method. Playing as Netherlands it is relatively simple to bribe Russia 3 times. That gives us 20-21 turns to defeat England and Co. I used to invade Britain via Scotland with two generals. I don't think this will work here. We probably need a direct assault on London. Do you remember how many turns are necessary to capture it? Uhh. That was a century ago. But I remember that once I was in London at turn 14 and considered myself lucky. But after I switched to Warsaw and You remained on Netherlands, so You should remember better Yes, bribing russia three times give you time to finish britain. The problem is what will be the order of bribing and/or will the alliance conquer all? |
|
|
|
Post by stoic on Jun 25, 2019 14:03:05 GMT
Uhh. That was a century ago. But I remember that once I was in London at turn 14 and considered myself lucky. But after I switched to Warsaw and You remained on Netherlands, so You should remember better ย Yes, bribing russia three times give you time to finish britain. The problem is what will be the order of bribing and/or will the alliance conquer all? First two bribes as soon as possible, best of all before we can capture the first city... We definitely need to send our best cavalry general to Finland, as well. If my memory is correct, I could finish Britain in 24-25 turns on several occasions using only two generals. So, at least theoretically, it seems to be possible... Here it is, for example ibb.co/jQveO923 turns |
|
|
|
Post by andrei on Jun 25, 2019 14:23:04 GMT
stoic, leave the plans aside. Hire Davout, don't upgrade him to max. He'll take care of everything. Eventually he will capture it with almost no health loss.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 14:28:28 GMT
I will do challenging conquests first lol Are there any more interesting challenges for the challenging quests? I keep trying to do them but i either get side tracked and forget i did them, or i get bored waiting for the turns to pass by . |
|
|
|
Post by stoic on Jun 25, 2019 15:23:46 GMT
stoic, leave the plans aside. Hire Davout, don't upgrade him to max. He'll take care of everything. Eventually he will capture it with almost no health loss. Damn... I knew I underestimated Davout |
|
|
|
Post by Seger on Jun 25, 2019 16:22:02 GMT
I will do challenging conquests first lol Are there any more interesting challenges for the challenging quests? I keep trying to do them but i either get side tracked and forget i did them, or i get bored waiting for the turns to pass by . the idea was that anyone could add ideas but due to a lack of interest I stopped adding challenges |
|
