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Post by NetherFreek on Jun 4, 2018 7:27:37 GMT
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 7, 2018 1:05:04 GMT
Weakest iap in the game. Comparison wise, he is inferior to Lannes, who only costs 844 medals fully reduced. However, if you do buy him, he will actually seem very strong at the start but will slowly deteriorate.
To get a grasp of how mediocre he is, we will compare him other generals.
Generals better than Wellesley: Bismarck, Karl, Suvorov, Washington, Bolivar, Masséna, Garibaldi, Moreau, Lannes, Barclay, Grant, Robert
You see, even though he is an iap, there are many generals who can do his job, and quite a few who can do his job better than him.
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Post by coronel on Aug 7, 2018 4:18:47 GMT
I think they underestimate a lot. I have it with updates and it's not bad. but it's not the best if
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Post by andrei on Aug 7, 2018 10:21:08 GMT
Actually there is always a weak IAP gen in ET games. In WC3 there was even 2 weak gens. So having Blucher and Napoleon as good IAP is already quite OK  |
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Post by Robert Walpole on Aug 7, 2018 10:58:15 GMT
Despite this I still use Wellesley as my main general due to him basically having the highest Battle Ability among my generals which makes him a minor Davout in EW4
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 7, 2018 12:29:56 GMT
Actually there is always a weak IAP gen in ET games. In WC3 there was even 2 weak gens. So having Blucher and Napoleon as good IAP is already quite OK I wouldn’t really consider Eisenhower a bad iap, as he was a great air general, and a fantastic naval general, as he was the only one with explosives. Plus he can be used on any unit imaginable. Zhukov wasn’t bad either, but he is a bad hybrid, as the only time i shove him on a tank is whenever I want to kamikaze him to take out japan while playing as the soviet union in 1960. I also send Eisenhower in much the same manner to take out Brazil. Fun times. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 7, 2018 12:31:04 GMT
Despite this I still use Wellesley as my main general due to him basically having the highest Battle Ability among my generals which makes him a minor Davout in EW4 I agree, he is still useful. But like there are so many generals that can do his job for him. |
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Post by andrei on Aug 7, 2018 13:05:19 GMT
Actually there is always a weak IAP gen in ET games. In WC3 there was even 2 weak gens. So having Blucher and Napoleon as good IAP is already quite OK I wouldn’t really consider Eisenhower a bad iap, as he was a great air general, and a fantastic naval general, as he was the only one with explosives. Plus he can be used on any unit imaginable. Zhukov wasn’t bad either, but he is a bad hybrid, as the only time i shove him on a tank is whenever I want to kamikaze him to take out japan while playing as the soviet union in 1960. I also send Eisenhower in much the same manner to take out Brazil. Fun times. Fantastic naval gen with almost no naval skills?  What concerns air. Any gen with 5* in air can do the same in WC3. Really, no advantage. And IAP should anticipate some advantage as it is for real money |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 7, 2018 15:09:43 GMT
I wouldn’t really consider Eisenhower a bad iap, as he was a great air general, and a fantastic naval general, as he was the only one with explosives. Plus he can be used on any unit imaginable. Zhukov wasn’t bad either, but he is a bad hybrid, as the only time i shove him on a tank is whenever I want to kamikaze him to take out japan while playing as the soviet union in 1960. I also send Eisenhower in much the same manner to take out Brazil. Fun times. Fantastic naval gen with almost no naval skills? What concerns air. Any gen with 5* in air can do the same in WC3. Really, no advantage. And IAP should anticipate some advantage as it is for real money True. I mean he can save you from purchasing a couple generals: yamamoto, for his air and naval ability, and patton, for his panzer and explosive ability. But yeah true. Arnold can replace him, as he can even travel 3 hexes on field artillery. You could build a no eyes general better than him for a very cheap price tag: explosives + wolf pack + supply + plain fighting + urban warfare, and he will be a general who is good at everything. |
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Post by Iosef Stalin on Aug 25, 2018 23:39:38 GMT
Weakest iap in the game. Comparison wise, he is inferior to Lannes, who only costs 844 medals fully reduced. However, if you do buy him, he will actually seem very strong at the start but will slowly deteriorate. To get a grasp of how mediocre he is, we will compare him other generals. Generals better than Wellesley: Bismarck, Karl, Suvorov, Washington, Bolivar, Masséna, Garibaldi, Moreau, Lannes, Barclay, Grant, Robert You see, even though he is an iap, there are many generals who can do his job, and quite a few who can do his job better than him. Agree. I think the only reason people get him is for the medals. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 25, 2018 23:44:00 GMT
Weakest iap in the game. Comparison wise, he is inferior to Lannes, who only costs 844 medals fully reduced. However, if you do buy him, he will actually seem very strong at the start but will slowly deteriorate. To get a grasp of how mediocre he is, we will compare him other generals. Generals better than Wellesley: Bismarck, Karl, Suvorov, Washington, Bolivar, Masséna, Garibaldi, Moreau, Lannes, Barclay, Grant, Robert You see, even though he is an iap, there are many generals who can do his job, and quite a few who can do his job better than him. Agree. I think the only reason people get him is for the medals. True, a good bonus package. He is a great starting general, but you will have no need of him once you are relatively far in the game |
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Post by Iosef Stalin on Aug 25, 2018 23:44:30 GMT
I know. Both of the other IAPs are better.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 20, 2018 17:35:02 GMT
Thinking back, i think we are roasting Wellesley a bit much. He is a pretty good general tbh. At emperor rank, his battle ability is at 125 with the +20 battle ability item (Napoleon’s is at 126). He skill set is comparable to Washington, except swap formation master with intercept. He is also very helpful in naval missions as his alert skill and high battle ability will make him invaluable to the team.
Overall, Wellesley can:
-Wreck Cavarly
-Fight in mountains (more common than you think)
-Survive (Ambush and Alert will protect him)
-Command a Naval Unit when necessary.
In fact, his survivability is so good you can get away with giving him a +10 hp item whereas someone like Massena will need a tent or even an ambulance.
Overall, both Blucher and Napoleon are better iaps than him, but he is worth the money if you ask me.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 20, 2018 17:37:37 GMT
Thinking back, i think we are roasting Wellesley a bit much. He is a pretty good general tbh. At emperor rank, his battle ability is at 125 with the +20 battle ability item (Napoleon’s is at 126). He skill set is comparable to Washington, except swap formation master with intercept. He is also very helpful in naval missions as his alert skill and high battle ability will make him invaluable to the team. Overall, Wellesley can: -Wreck Cavarly -Fight in mountains (more common than you think) -Survive (Ambush and Alert will protect him) -Command a Naval Unit when necessary. In fact, his survivability is so good you can get away with giving him a +10 hp item whereas someone like Massena will need a tent or even an ambulance. Overall, both Blucher and Napoleon are better iaps than him, but he is worth the money if you ask me. If you rank the infantry generals, I’d say it goes something like this 1. Karl 2. Massena 3. Washington / Suvorov 4. Wellesley 5. Barclay 6. Lannes I think he is top five for sure |
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Post by yuanzhong on Sept 21, 2018 1:11:08 GMT
Thinking back, i think we are roasting Wellesley a bit much. He is a pretty good general tbh. At emperor rank, his battle ability is at 125 with the +20 battle ability item (Napoleon’s is at 126). He skill set is comparable to Washington, except swap formation master with intercept. He is also very helpful in naval missions as his alert skill and high battle ability will make him invaluable to the team. Overall, Wellesley can: -Wreck Cavarly -Fight in mountains (more common than you think) -Survive (Ambush and Alert will protect him) -Command a Naval Unit when necessary. In fact, his survivability is so good you can get away with giving him a +10 hp item whereas someone like Massena will need a tent or even an ambulance. Overall, both Blucher and Napoleon are better iaps than him, but he is worth the money if you ask me. If you rank the infantry generals, I’d say it goes something like this 1. Karl 2. Massena 3. Washington / Suvorov 4. Wellesley 5. Barclay 6. Lannes I think he is top five for sure I think Barclay should take 3rd position, he's a bit stronger than Washington / Suvorov. |
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