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Post by biskup1997 on Dec 5, 2018 3:31:02 GMT
So i have Yamamoto but im thinking of selling him and buying Nimitz. I would probably get around 600 medals in return if did it. I think Yamamoto is really good but i need medals and it seems that air ability is not that improtant comparing to the navy one. Also idk how good is Nimitz accutaly ? Bc the best thing about yamamoto is that you can use him as support arty general aswell. So is Nimitz better than Yamamoto and can you use him even if you dont need a navy general ?
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 5, 2018 3:45:17 GMT
Nimitz is worse off at land warfare.
If you find yourself constantly not deploying Yamamoto in a city to exploit his air *s or placing him in a carrier, Nimitz may be a better choice since the ~600 medals can be used to get and lvl up Rumour (very useful in naval combat).
However, if you switch to Nimitz, remember that he is a very weak land gen so NEVER put him on the frontlines.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Dec 5, 2018 3:54:16 GMT
biskup1997, the thing about choosing between yamamoto and nimitz is whether you want a one that is better in air or navy. In wc4, due to epic air defenses, air generals are extremely nerfed and disadvantaged as even with air leader it triggers rarely and if it does it doesnt do much damage against a missle air defence. It seems that yamamoto's skills are all centered around that, and to add on they are all lvl 1, so you need to waste medals upgrading skills that are not advantageous. Now looking at skills, nimitz has lvl 2 leader, lvl 2 camo and lvl3 ace forces. Ace forces is an op skill that lets your general quickly gain experience and get more damage and max health. plus, navy generals NEED to have leader and rumour, so that leaves nimitz, after giving him rumour, with 1 more skill which you can add sailor. Yamamoto would only have 3 useful skills(explosives, added rumour and navy leader), whilst nimitz can have 4, 5 if you can utilize camo well, making him the ultimate survivor. Lastly, the price difference would point you towards nimitz, but only get him at full discount. This would be my opinion, until one day in a fateful update where you can somehow launch stealth bombers from super carriers, then yamamoto would undoubtedly be the nest navy general.
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Post by biskup1997 on Dec 5, 2018 13:18:49 GMT
The thing is i realized that for a good conquest i always need one navy general to destry cost citys. And when it comes to scenarios i only have the 4 nato mission that doesnt need a navy general. Idk how do UN missons look like but for the first and second one you need a navy general. So all in all i doubt i can have more use of yamamoto as an arty general in the future. If somebody did all the UN missons it would be nice just to check if they needed a navy general for all of them.
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Post by biskup1997 on Dec 5, 2018 13:23:20 GMT
Nimitz is worse off at land warfare. If you find yourself constantly not deploying Yamamoto in a city to exploit his air *s or placing him in a carrier, Nimitz may be a better choice since the ~600 medals can be used to get and lvl up Rumour (very useful in naval combat). However, if you switch to Nimitz, remember that he is a very weak land gen so NEVER put him on the frontlines. I dont think i ever used his air skills in a city. He usually dies at some point when i use him as arty general and i almost never use him on an aircraft carrier. But than again i only have 6 generals and if i get into a situation that doesnt requier a navy general idk if im ready to loose his arty ability. |
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Post by biskup1997 on Dec 5, 2018 13:27:22 GMT
biskup1997, the thing about choosing between yamamoto and nimitz is whether you want a one that is better in air or navy. In wc4, due to epic air defenses, air generals are extremely nerfed and disadvantaged as even with air leader it triggers rarely and if it does it doesnt do much damage against a missle air defence. It seems that yamamoto's skills are all centered around that, and to add on they are all lvl 1, so you need to waste medals upgrading skills that are not advantageous. Now looking at skills, nimitz has lvl 2 leader, lvl 2 camo and lvl3 ace forces. Ace forces is an op skill that lets your general quickly gain experience and get more damage and max health. plus, navy generals NEED to have leader and rumour, so that leaves nimitz, after giving him rumour, with 1 more skill which you can add sailor. Yamamoto would only have 3 useful skills(explosives, added rumour and navy leader), whilst nimitz can have 4, 5 if you can utilize camo well, making him the ultimate survivor. Lastly, the price difference would point you towards nimitz, but only get him at full discount. This would be my opinion, until one day in a fateful update where you can somehow launch stealth bombers from super carriers, then yamamoto would undoubtedly be the nest navy general. I honestly didnt know that ace force ability has any use what so ever. I already did all the missons for all the special generals. But yeah i think i need somebody that can have more impact in the navy fights. Exspecialy for the invasions. Yamamoto tends to struggl in 8 medals invasions |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Dec 5, 2018 15:11:54 GMT
So i have Yamamoto but im thinking of selling him and buying Nimitz. I would probably get around 600 medals in return if did it. I think Yamamoto is really good but i need medals and it seems that air ability is not that improtant comparing to the navy one. Also idk how good is Nimitz accutaly ? Bc the best thing about yamamoto is that you can use him as support arty general aswell. So is Nimitz better than Yamamoto and can you use him even if you dont need a navy general ? Nimitz is cheaper, why not buy him? |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Dec 5, 2018 15:12:35 GMT
biskup1997, the thing about choosing between yamamoto and nimitz is whether you want a one that is better in air or navy. In wc4, due to epic air defenses, air generals are extremely nerfed and disadvantaged as even with air leader it triggers rarely and if it does it doesnt do much damage against a missle air defence. It seems that yamamoto's skills are all centered around that, and to add on they are all lvl 1, so you need to waste medals upgrading skills that are not advantageous. Now looking at skills, nimitz has lvl 2 leader, lvl 2 camo and lvl3 ace forces. Ace forces is an op skill that lets your general quickly gain experience and get more damage and max health. plus, navy generals NEED to have leader and rumour, so that leaves nimitz, after giving him rumour, with 1 more skill which you can add sailor. Yamamoto would only have 3 useful skills(explosives, added rumour and navy leader), whilst nimitz can have 4, 5 if you can utilize camo well, making him the ultimate survivor. Lastly, the price difference would point you towards nimitz, but only get him at full discount. This would be my opinion, until one day in a fateful update where you can somehow launch stealth bombers from super carriers, then yamamoto would undoubtedly be the nest navy general. I honestly didnt know that ace force ability has any use what so ever. I already did all the missons for all the special generals. But yeah i think i need somebody that can have more impact in the navy fights. Exspecialy for the invasions. Yamamoto tends to struggl in 8 medals invasions Yeah ace forces is a good skill and nimitz has it at lvl 3 |
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Post by biskup1997 on Dec 5, 2018 23:12:35 GMT
Im also wondering if i should maybe sell runsted aswell and buy leeb. I dont think there is much use for runsted in the end game. Also is it possibile to do 8 medal infantry missons with only konev thats not upgraded for infantry ? My infatry techs are on around 75%.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Dec 5, 2018 23:37:03 GMT
Im also wondering if i should maybe sell runsted aswell and buy leeb. I dont think there is much use for runsted in the end game. Also is it possibile to do 8 medal infantry missons with only konev thats not upgraded for infantry ? My infatry techs are on around 75%. With konev, definitely. No doubt in my mind. If you struggle with it, you can give him the raider medal as well and possible get it to lvl 2. Anyway, regardless, you can definitely do it with Konev. About the selling rundstendt bit, i feel like having one infantry general with maxed out raider and infantry leader with the medal’s attached is well worth the investment. On the other hand, leeb is very good as he has solid damage and rumor. Keep in mind that you will lose 80% the medal’s you invested into Rundtsendt, so it is a bit of a waste. I personally would keep rundtsendt as an extra mechanized unit with a general never hurts. |
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Post by biskup1997 on Dec 6, 2018 2:54:12 GMT
I only spent 200 medals extra on runsted. So ididnt invest much. And i belive that he could be usefull if i invested more medals into him and upgraded my infantry units. But honestly im just looking for a general that can help me with 1980s scenario because the missons seem very hard. Also it seems like arty and tanks are way more important than infantry units. Im kind of struggeling with medals atm and just trying to get the best set up possibile for the scenarios.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Dec 6, 2018 3:32:01 GMT
I only spent 200 medals extra on runsted. So ididnt invest much. And i belive that he could be usefull if i invested more medals into him and upgraded my infantry units. But honestly im just looking for a general that can help me with 1980s scenario because the missons seem very hard. Also it seems like arty and tanks are way more important than infantry units. Im kind of struggeling with medals atm and just trying to get the best set up possibile for the scenarios. I found myself in the same issue. If you have no more use for rundstendt, meaning all of ur other missions are complete then I would definitely trade him in for Leeb. Artillery is definitely powerful in this game, and leeb is a strong one at that. In that case, I would raise konev’s raider to lvl 2 or 3 and stick the medal on him and use him for invasions. He should be just fine. But that being said, before you make any decisions I would check some of the guides they have for the 1980s mission. Best of luck to you man |
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Post by biskup1997 on Dec 6, 2018 13:10:44 GMT
There arent any. Only for the first mission.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Dec 6, 2018 14:30:17 GMT
There arent any. Only for the first mission. I myself quit at this point. But if you like a challenge, you need a lot of tank and artillery generals, and many of them have to have rumor. Furthermore, you might also need a couple navy generals, at the very least nimitz and kuzentsov. This is kind of like the crimean war challenge in ew6. It is ridiculously difficult and depends more on tactics then on generals as well. Good luck dude, many have quit at this point |
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Post by biskup1997 on Dec 7, 2018 0:51:01 GMT
There arent any. Only for the first mission. I myself quit at this point. But if you like a challenge, you need a lot of tank and artillery generals, and many of them have to have rumor. Furthermore, you might also need a couple navy generals, at the very least nimitz and kuzentsov. This is kind of like the crimean war challenge in ew6. It is ridiculously difficult and depends more on tactics then on generals as well. Good luck dude, many have quit at this point Is it really that hard ? Lol |
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