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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 17, 2019 13:15:30 GMT
Anyone can give me the general idea of doing Naples 1812? I really want to use that Murat, and have less pressure to get S rank Its easy, help ottomans, invade spain and africa and its yours what to do next. Use Murat for weak enemies lol.
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Post by Seger on May 17, 2019 13:40:01 GMT
First question: Why do you want to play egypt it's not the best country for 1812, maybe you can play as morocco, Napels or bavaria. you're generals shoudn't be to weak but Why 2 navy gens? It's possible but then you need dabrovski instead of davout if you want to improve your team because of his aura. and you split your generals equally, but this way their auras have less sense. Maybe donation also will help to keep europe under your control. i traded dabrowski. He wasnt good enough. No survivability, Davout is better. I spam cavalry with murat, and art with alex. Just because murat's aura doesnt effect davout doesnt mean it is not working for me. And besides even when the whole team is together i still cant get past central europe.... maybe less agressive more donations. I like to pkay challenging nations it is fun. I think you're right if you loose two of your important allies: uk, russia ,prussia ,spain , Portugal have you actually already lost. And danrovski is better then davout realy he just starts lower and needs more upgrades.
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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 17, 2019 13:47:44 GMT
i traded dabrowski. He wasnt good enough. No survivability, Davout is better. I spam cavalry with murat, and art with alex. Just because murat's aura doesnt effect davout doesnt mean it is not working for me. And besides even when the whole team is together i still cant get past central europe.... maybe less agressive more donations. I like to pkay challenging nations it is fun. I think you're right if you loose two of your important allies: uk, russia ,prussia ,spain , Portugal have you actually already lost. And danrovski is better then davout realy he just starts lower and needs more upgrades. Is Davout a stand alone general?
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Post by Seger on May 17, 2019 13:48:07 GMT
Anyone can give me the general idea of doing Naples 1812? I really want to use that Murat, and have less pressure to get S rank Its easy, help ottomans, invade spain and africa and its yours what to do next. Use Murat for weak enemies lol. Purple main force green boat to help taking Ibiza yellow unit to take spanish land red mid game support for africa
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Post by Seger on May 17, 2019 13:49:41 GMT
I think you're right if you loose two of your important allies: uk, russia ,prussia ,spain , Portugal have you actually already lost. And danrovski is better then davout realy he just starts lower and needs more upgrades. Is Davout a stand alone general? he doesn't have aura some people say ney and lan are better some even say that paget is better
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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 17, 2019 13:51:41 GMT
Its easy, help ottomans, invade spain and africa and its yours what to do next. Use Murat for weak enemies lol. Purple main force green boat to help taking Ibiza yellow unit to take spanish land red mid game support for africa Also, you need to support america as soon as possible.
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Post by vorlian on May 17, 2019 19:52:00 GMT
Is Davout a stand alone general? he doesn't have aura some people say ney and lan are better some even say that paget is better I had both davout and dabrowski maxed in rank and i liked davout better. I tend to sperate my generals based on tactics and gameplay. Sometimes davout goes by himself away from murat, but murat always has a crowd of light cavalry to escort him. I am going to be less agressive this time. Every time i have played i declared on algeria quickly, but I will wait and use my cash to bribe. Hopefully this works.
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Post by vorlian on May 17, 2019 22:44:34 GMT
Update: I have attemted it once more and was successful. Donations. Donations. Donations. Do not declare on algeria until turn 8 or so give time to donate everything left over after deploying all my generals to spain for the first 10 to 15 turns. Then whenever prussia enters they must survive. I stopped my assult and played defensively around Ankara and Benghazi donate all to prussia and canada and move forward strategically. Donations were the key.
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Post by Seger on May 18, 2019 5:39:18 GMT
I had both davout and dabrowski maxed in rank and i liked davout better. I tend to sperate my generals based on tactics and gameplay. Sometimes davout goes by himself away from murat, but murat always has a crowd of light cavalry to escort him. I am going to be less agressive this time. Every time i have played i declared on algeria quickly, but I will wait and use my cash to bribe. Hopefully this works. Here you can read Why paget is better then davout european-war-4.boards.net/thread/9164/european-war-6-paget?page=3and here Why aura gens are better: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/9858/real-gens-comparison
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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 19, 2019 8:52:36 GMT
Update: I have attemted it once more and was successful. Donations. Donations. Donations. Do not declare on algeria until turn 8 or so give time to donate everything left over after deploying all my generals to spain for the first 10 to 15 turns. Then whenever prussia enters they must survive. I stopped my assult and played defensively around Ankara and Benghazi donate all to prussia and canada and move forward strategically. Donations were the key. Yes, donations are one of the most needed part of the conquest.
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Post by vorlian on May 19, 2019 13:15:03 GMT
I had both davout and dabrowski maxed in rank and i liked davout better. I tend to sperate my generals based on tactics and gameplay. Sometimes davout goes by himself away from murat, but murat always has a crowd of light cavalry to escort him. I am going to be less agressive this time. Every time i have played i declared on algeria quickly, but I will wait and use my cash to bribe. Hopefully this works. Here you can read Why paget is better then davout european-war-4.boards.net/thread/9164/european-war-6-paget?page=3and here Why aura gens are better: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/9858/real-gens-comparisonI don't understand why everyone likes the aura generals so much. I have played this game a very long time. I have used Paget, he was my first cav general. I used murat, i used davout, and i used dabrowski. Out of all of them, the best pair is murat and davout for my play style. Everyone can choose to use auras over everything else but sometimes they are not that good. Not perfect for every situation. Furthermore, dabrowski is only a duke. The loss of defense percentage causes him to be super fragile and not worth it. I spent more time trying to keep him alive then fighting. Davout, as a king, can take more punishment. And has a higher attack ability, even after adding dabrowskis 20 to the top. He is good, but there are particular reasons why he is not that good. Otherwise. What is the record for 1812 rounds?
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Post by Seger on May 19, 2019 14:24:22 GMT
I don't understand why everyone likes the aura generals so much. I have played this game a very long time. I have used Paget, he was my first cav general. I used murat, i used davout, and i used dabrowski. Out of all of them, the best pair is murat and davout for my play style. Everyone can choose to use auras over everything else but sometimes they are not that good. Not perfect for every situation. Furthermore, dabrowski is only a duke. The loss of defense percentage causes him to be super fragile and not worth it. I spent more time trying to keep him alive then fighting. Davout, as a king, can take more punishment. And has a higher attack ability, even after adding dabrowskis 20 to the top. He is good, but there are particular reasons why he is not that good. Otherwise. What is the record for 1812 rounds? everyone likes aura gens because they're the best, you only count the increase of the aura damage on the gen himself but he als boost the units in the two hex around him.
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Post by stoic on May 19, 2019 15:10:25 GMT
I don't understand why everyone likes the aura generals so much. I have played this game a very long time. I have used Paget, he was my first cav general. I used murat, i used davout, and i used dabrowski. Out of all of them, the best pair is murat and davout for my play style. Everyone can choose to use auras over everything else but sometimes they are not that good. Not perfect for every situation. Furthermore, dabrowski is only a duke. The loss of defense percentage causes him to be super fragile and not worth it. I spent more time trying to keep him alive then fighting. Davout, as a king, can take more punishment. And has a higher attack ability, even after adding dabrowskis 20 to the top. He is good, but there are particular reasons why he is not that good. Otherwise. What is the record for 1812 rounds? In fact "aura" skills are not best skills in the game. They are simply unique and game winning skills . Without them it is simply impossible to complete the game. The chance is very high that you have problems exactly because you underestimate aura skills and don't know how to use them properly. So let's compare Davout and Dabrowsi. And then pairs Davout-Murat and Dabrowski-Murat. In the link given above by Seger you can see comparison between Dabrowski and Davout after they are fully upgraded (without medals or weapon). Dabrowski has almost 40 attacking points more, but 5 points less of defense. That's all. The advantage of Dabrowski is huge, because 40 attacking points are far more important than 5 defensive points. But that is not the whole story. If we compare pairs Davout+Murat and Dabrowski+Murat - the latter is far more efficient because Murat gains more than + 20 attacking points with Dabrowski nearby. With Davout nearby he gains nothing. It is not the end yet If another cavalry general or cavalry unit is within aura of Dabrowski and Murat they gain 40-50+ (depending on BA) attacking points, while in case of Davout+Dabrowski this bonus will be only 20-25 points. You can see it here in details european-war-4.boards.net/thread/9635/aura-buffsSo by dismissing Dabrowski we only reduce our chances. If you find him somewhat weak in defense just increase his HPs.
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Post by Seger on May 19, 2019 15:51:05 GMT
I don't understand why everyone likes the aura generals so much. I have played this game a very long time. I have used Paget, he was my first cav general. I used murat, i used davout, and i used dabrowski. Out of all of them, the best pair is murat and davout for my play style. Everyone can choose to use auras over everything else but sometimes they are not that good. Not perfect for every situation. Furthermore, dabrowski is only a duke. The loss of defense percentage causes him to be super fragile and not worth it. I spent more time trying to keep him alive then fighting. Davout, as a king, can take more punishment. And has a higher attack ability, even after adding dabrowskis 20 to the top. He is good, but there are particular reasons why he is not that good. Otherwise. What is the record for 1812 rounds? In fact "aura" skills are not best skills in the game. They are simply unique and game winning skills . Without them it is simply impossible to complete the game. The chance is very high that you have problems exactly because you underestimate aura skills and don't know how to use them properly. So let's compare Davout and Dabrowsi. And then pairs Davout-Murat and Dabrowski-Murat. In the link given above by Seger you can see comparison between Dabrowski and Davout after they are fully upgraded (without medals or weapon). Dabrowski has almost 40 attacking points more, but 5 points less of defense. That's all. The advantage of Dabrowski is huge, because 40 attacking points are far more important than 5 defensive points. But that is not the whole story. If we compare pairs Davout+Murat and Dabrowski+Murat - the latter is far more efficient because Murat gains more than + 20 attacking points with Dabrowski nearby. With Davout nearby he gains nothing. It is not the end yet If another cavalry general or cavalry unit is within aura of Dabrowski and Murat they gain 40-50+ (depending on BA) attacking points, while in case of Davout+Dabrowski this bonus will be only 20-25 points. You can see it here in details european-war-4.boards.net/thread/9635/aura-buffsSo by dismissing Dabrowski we only reduce our chances. If you find him somewhat weak in defense just increase his HPs. Or give him a healing item and use him to boost Murat an attack weak enemies
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nuc
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Post by nuc on May 25, 2019 5:28:07 GMT
Thanks for the efforts... I am not sure if I should write this here or the walkthrough so I will put this on both threads.
I want to add a good option for 1812 Britain.. If you declare war to Algeria at the beginning then Algeria will go to Spain mainland as they are the closest enemy. So your two navy generals there near Gibraltar will hunt their armies easily in the Mediterranean by attracting them and there you go. You don't have any North Africa situation when Algeria's armies sank before Morocco and Egypt joins the war. That will also cause a domino effect: almost all Naples armies will move to Egypt by sea and sink there like Algeria (including Murad the beast) and after that Morocco will come to help you in Italy - Egypt will help you in Ottoman regions (that's what happened in my game)
That makes everything easier since I completed French eagle right now, I have 4 free generals (I did nothing to improve them + Massena and Alexander I) and unit upgrades, as you can guess, are not completed.
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