Pallad
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Post by Pallad on Apr 14, 2019 12:20:21 GMT
I'm not so sure about this conquest. The Prussians fight very hard at the beginning, and the Russians will follow soon after. You have to survive while Blรผcher, the Prussians and the Russians try to overrun your position. Only if you stop the Coalition counterattack, that you have a chance at turning the tide. My best recommendation is to declare war on Morocco, Sardinia and Austria from the start so that Italy and the Rhine can surprise Austria, Spain can sink the Moroccans and invade Morocco, and the French can take out Sardinia. I think I'll do exactly like what you said. Surviving against Prussia is pretty easy actually, as Blucher usually dead bcs surrounded by Napoleon and his army (took only like 2 or 3 turns to kill him, which is surprisingly quick). Against Russia is the tricky one. But I need to rest a while before start trying this. Just finished 2 hours of slugfest as Denmark 1798. I tried to attack Berlin via Danzig but Russia already joined (and Prussia already took Warsaw) so stalled in Danzig for about 20 turns (managed to spare 2 art and some Inf with one 1 Inf gen and 1 Art gen to attack Berlin in combination with Murat from France)
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rufito
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Post by rufito on Jul 12, 2019 3:58:52 GMT
Guys your input was very helpful however I have ran into major obstacles that land me a heavy defeat.
I can usually conquer Berlin as Saxony on turn 3 and defeat Prussia by turn 10-15 with the massive help of France and the Rhine Confederation who pretty much carry the game. I can usually own Dresden, Berlin, Hamburg, Danzig and a couple of polish cities but this is the most I can stretch. I also try to donate to Poland to prevent them from losing and dissapearing as quickly as they do without any help as they are a nice bulwark against Imperial Russia and take the brunt of the fight.
However...Denmark loses badly against Sweden who then pounds France & Allies from the north with a huge army and navy. The Ottoman Empire loses roundly on the Southeastern European and Caucasian Front against Austria and Russia and finally, Austria and Russia regroup to finish off the French Imperial Army and the Rhine Condeferation in the eastern front. As a minor power, I can only watch how the French Alliance slowly desintegrates before my very own eyes with little capacity to influence the outcome against such overextravagant odds.
I truly believe if Denmark could win against Sweden and the Turks could at least hold their lines, everything would be different.
What can I do better?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 4:21:35 GMT
Guys your input was very helpful however I have ran into major obstacles that land me a heavy defeat. I can usually conquer Berlin as Saxony on turn 3 and defeat Prussia by turn 10-15 with the massive help of France and the Rhine Confederation who pretty much carry the game. I can usually own Dresden, Berlin, Hamburg, Danzig and a couple of polish cities but this is the most I can stretch. I also try to donate to Poland to prevent them from losing and dissapearing as quickly as they do without any help as they are a nice bulwark against Imperial Russia and take the brunt of the fight. However...Denmark loses badly against Sweden who then pounds France & Allies from the north with a huge army and navy. The Ottoman Empire loses roundly on the Southeastern European and Caucasian Front against Austria and Russia and finally, Austria and Russia regroup to finish off the French Imperial Army and the Rhine Condeferation in the eastern front. As a minor power, I can only watch how the French Alliance slowly desintegrates before my very own eyes with little capacity to influence the outcome against such overextravagant odds. I truly believe if Denmark could win against Sweden and the Turks could at least hold their lines, everything would be different. What can I do better? Do not donate to Poland at all. Just use it on your units, and keep fighting for the shores. Use all your units to distract the enemy Russians, and defend your cities with your generals. If you have a core of 8 gens that are strong, you can punch through the enemy quickly. But if not, defend the Baltic coast. Denmark should win, provided no Russians interfere, and by moving towards shore you will bait some Swedish soldiers to move towards you, making Denmark's victory easier. Also, blast and forced March is your best friend. It all comes down to practice
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rufito
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Post by rufito on Jul 12, 2019 5:04:33 GMT
Guys your input was very helpful however I have ran into major obstacles that land me a heavy defeat. I can usually conquer Berlin as Saxony on turn 3 and defeat Prussia by turn 10-15 with the massive help of France and the Rhine Confederation who pretty much carry the game. I can usually own Dresden, Berlin, Hamburg, Danzig and a couple of polish cities but this is the most I can stretch. I also try to donate to Poland to prevent them from losing and dissapearing as quickly as they do without any help as they are a nice bulwark against Imperial Russia and take the brunt of the fight. However...Denmark loses badly against Sweden who then pounds France & Allies from the north with a huge army and navy. The Ottoman Empire loses roundly on the Southeastern European and Caucasian Front against Austria and Russia and finally, Austria and Russia regroup to finish off the French Imperial Army and the Rhine Condeferation in the eastern front. As a minor power, I can only watch how the French Alliance slowly desintegrates before my very own eyes with little capacity to influence the outcome against such overextravagant odds. I truly believe if Denmark could win against Sweden and the Turks could at least hold their lines, everything would be different. What can I do better? Do not donate to Poland at all. Just use it on your units, and keep fighting for the shores. Use all your units to distract the enemy Russians, and defend your cities with your generals. If you have a core of 8 gens that are strong, you can punch through the enemy quickly. But if not, defend the Baltic coast. Denmark should win, provided no Russians interfere, and by moving towards shore you will bait some Swedish soldiers to move towards you, making Denmark's victory easier. Also, blast and forced March is your best friend. It all comes down to practice Ok I will start a new game and won't donate to Poland to see what happens. Will also try to lure the Swedes on the Danzig shore. I am using blast whenever I can to pound the Austrian cities. How should I handle the Austrians though? They have huge armies on the north against us and the south against the Ottomans. At the moment, I try to delay their entry 2 to 3 times to give us some breathing space but once they join they wreck our lines in Germany.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 7:09:14 GMT
rufito, Just send some generals to keep the Austrians busy. Or keep building line infantry and militias to keep them busy. If it comes to it, give up smaller cities to better defend larger ones. All you need to do is to survive until most of your allies enters the war. Russia will be severely weakened after most of their generals are defeated or damaged , so take advantage of that by invading Russia the moment their attacks weaken.
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rufito
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Post by rufito on Jul 12, 2019 8:13:15 GMT
rufito, Just send some generals to keep the Austrians busy. Or keep building line infantry and militias to keep them busy. If it comes to it, give up smaller cities to better defend larger ones. All you need to do is to survive until most of your allies enters the war. Russia will be severely weakened after most of their generals are defeated or damaged , so take advantage of that by invading Russia the moment their attacks weaken. Great stuff! Do you ever recommend that I donate to Rhine Confederation to help them against Austria or to Denkmark to help against Sweden or Spain against Morocco? Or should I just skip donating altogether since weak Saxony is in no position to do so? Should I just accept that some minor allies like Poland, the Netherlands and Rhine should and will be defeated? Another question, should I spend money and metal to delay the entry of enemies into the war or to advance the entry of my Allies into the conflict or should I just forfeit the diplomacy mechanics altogether to invest all of that instead in the armed forces?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 8:25:04 GMT
rufito,aside from declaring war on Sardinia, i wouldn't bother with diplomacy. Just send some militias nearby and prepare to capture unprotected cities of enemies. You can donate to the Rhineland, but i prefer to save gold for units. Donations isn't a surefire way for letting them win, but directly helping them is. Rhineland shouldn't fall if you do things right, while Netherlands should hold on for a while against the British. Poland will most likely fall, but if they survive it would be a bonus .
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rufito
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Post by rufito on Jul 12, 2019 10:15:20 GMT
rufito,aside from declaring war on Sardinia, i wouldn't bother with diplomacy. Just send some militias nearby and prepare to capture unprotected cities of enemies. You can donate to the Rhineland, but i prefer to save gold for units. Donations isn't a surefire way for letting them win, but directly helping them is. Rhineland shouldn't fall if you do things right, while Netherlands should hold on for a while against the British. Poland will most likely fall, but if they survive it would be a bonus . Ok got it. What is really holding me back atm is Sweden and how they dominate Denmark. Everything goes well until Denmark gives out and then they redeploy their entire force in Scandinavia to Germany. Then between the Russians, Austrians and Swedes I get gang banged. However, I feel like I'm making progress every playthrough. I just lost one at turn 30 just barely because the Swedes unleashed on me but not before Prussia, Austria, Naples, Sardinia and Morocco went under too. I felt like if I had saved up a bit more coins I could have held on to at least Dresden a bit more to buy me time before the Spaniards, Italians, Turks, Egyptians and French (who decided to concentrate in Southern Europe to help the mentioned countries instead of me!) redeployed from the south en masse to the frontlines in Germany and carried me to victory. So close... I will keep trying qnd report back tomorrow. Thanks so much again!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 10:19:53 GMT
rufito,you can send some militias to capture undefended cities of Denmark or Sweden . I don't know, i never really encountered any problems from Sweden in my playthroughs as Saxony 1806, mostly Russia is the main problem. Just remember that stalling them out is the objective, not capturing.
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Post by silvercreek on Jul 13, 2019 0:43:26 GMT
I will attempt to do Saxony 1806 again. What should we do,let French steam roller pass,and get out their way. Now we wait harassing the HRE and hopefully capture a city or 2. Dresden must not fall,keep your best infranty there feel free to add a an General now if you wish. So now the French steamroller has done its job,and captured Berlin along with killing Blucher,with little or no help from me๐
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Post by silvercreek on Jul 13, 2019 4:42:51 GMT
The rest is rather easy now,let the French conquer Russia, then you defeat HRE,then turn on the Brits using Forced March,once Britain falls the game should be over very soon.
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rufito
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Post by rufito on Jul 13, 2019 17:38:40 GMT
rufito,you can send some militias to capture undefended cities of Denmark or Sweden . I don't know, i never really encountered any problems from Sweden in my playthroughs as Saxony 1806, mostly Russia is the main problem. Just remember that stalling them out is the objective, not capturing.ย Finally! ๐ Following your wise advice, I won my first game as Saxony after much frustration. The key here declaring war on Sardinia on the first turn, delayed the Austrians twice to buy me some breathing space and capturing Berlin on turn 3 with a pincer envelopment using the starting cavarly with a naval general (!) to the north of the german capital and my default starting grenadier with general swung to the east of the city. The germans left their capital empty to send everything against my capital and I walked in. Then I just spammed militias to hold Dresden while the entire Prussian Army tried to capture it. The French Army headed by Napoleon was key to prevent the fall of my capital by clashing head on against the large army led by Blรผcher. Once the French won the battle and destroyed the western Prussian Army, I could then engage in a limited fight and walk in some cities belonging to the Prussians and Poles in the east. Hamburg was bombarded by the Prussian Navy and I took it from the French since I badly needed the taxes and population and they could spare another city from the dozens they already had in their empire. After capturing these couple of cities I dedicated my entire effort to holding them with militias while stalling the Russians and Austrians. Once the starting Russian Army was destroyed by the French & Rhine while I held the line, they sent a larger army in a counterattack that was also stalled due to the tenacity of my defense with militias. After failing to breakthrough for the second time, they were exhausted and could not mount a strong coordinated offense in the Eastern Front. The Austrians were going strong but they had to divide their army in three between the northern frontlines in Germany and Poland, their southwestern front against the Italians and the southern front against the Ottomans. Still, they had a large army and were making progress in the north, southwest and southern frontlines even reaching the gates of Constantinople but they eventually stalled under such pressure and their war effort couldn't sustain their war machine. They started retreating on all fronts. The Egyptians helped the Ottomans massively in the Balkans and prevented the fall of the Turkish capital. For their part, the Danes finally pulled their shoot together and defeated the Swedes with a massive effort. They then fought on the northwestern front against St. Petersburg and took some pressure off my western front against the Russians. The Spaniards were content with fighting Morocco in North Africa and holding the frontlines around Paris against the British. Once Austria was defeated, Russia eventually fell to the armed forces of Saxony, Denmark, France, Rhine Confederation and the Ottomans from the south. The United Kingdom was living on borrowed time and once the Eastern Front was won by the French Allies, they were in no position to resist such extravagant odds and lost the Isles around turn 90. The balance irreversibly swung in our favor by turn 40 but I then put it on autoplay as I didn't want to bother with a forgone conclusion. Saxony stretched from Berlin to Moscow in a huge eastern european empire. The AI took 50 turns to defeat the remnants of the Grand Alliance but I still got an S rank so that was okay. Thank you so much for helping me win something so hard! Cheers!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 18:33:20 GMT
rufito, all I did was give you advice. You finished it yourself
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