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Post by The Last Stand Soldier on Dec 3, 2015 19:52:33 GMT
When I am The Last Stand Soldier, I should ask you about it  I will vote "yes", because there was charge of all American REGIMENT against Chinese MGs. In Vietnamese War, there were also lots of bayonet fights, especially in urban warfare. During Falkland War, there were 3 British bayonet charges against the enemy. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Dec 3, 2015 20:04:31 GMT
If you mean the bayonet in WW2 that on a rifle, no. But the kinds like Swiss Army knife, yes.
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Post by The Last Stand Soldier on Dec 3, 2015 20:26:42 GMT
I don't talk about bayonet from Napoleonic Age, nowadays bayonets are knifes put on rifles
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Post by Mountbatten on Dec 3, 2015 20:31:34 GMT
I don't think so.
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Post by The Last Stand Soldier on Dec 3, 2015 21:14:31 GMT
Mountbatten, what changed after Vietnamese War? Pattern on M-16?
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Post by The Last Stand Soldier on Dec 3, 2015 22:02:26 GMT
Mountbatten, imagine you are commander of small unit. You are completely outnumbered and surrounded. Your soldiers ran out of ammunition. Will you order to put bayonets or surrender without melee fight?
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Post by Suvorov on Dec 3, 2015 22:05:17 GMT
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Post by The Last Stand Soldier on Dec 3, 2015 22:10:24 GMT
Suvoro
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Post by The Last Stand Soldier on Dec 3, 2015 22:11:22 GMT
Suvorov can you translate it?
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Post by The Last Stand Soldier on Dec 3, 2015 22:43:42 GMT
Because you are officer But soldiers will kick enemy or slaughter them with bayonets? |
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Post by The Last Stand Soldier on Dec 3, 2015 22:45:58 GMT
Unrealistic scenario? In urban or forest warfare???
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Post by Haelicon on Dec 3, 2015 23:06:49 GMT
Nowadays, fighting are quite far. House to house fighting or Close Quarter Combat are actually rare, this is not Stalingrad anymore. Peoples that charge with bayonets are easily mowed down, and it's more effective to shoot from distance.
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Post by The Last Stand Soldier on Dec 3, 2015 23:09:41 GMT
Remember Hue or Khe Sanh Healicon
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Dec 3, 2015 23:18:13 GMT
Bayonets are tools now, now weapons anymore.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Dec 3, 2015 23:26:19 GMT
A trench knife or maybe even a spade is probably more effective than a bayonet in our modern age. A bayonet was really only effective because it inflicted a virtually fatal wound. A bayonet was triangular, and the medicine of the day was not enough to heal triangular wounds, making them quite effective to spread infection. In our modern age, however, our medical equipment can heal triangular wounds easily. A trench knife is a great melee weapon to use in combat. It has a great grip and handle, and the sharpness of it would easily pierce through flesh. You don't need to use it for mass charges, you use it for melee attacks and self defense. A spade does not provide much movement, but can allow for you to dig in, which allows some self defense. Again, not very good for modern war, but still can provide some self defense. And a spade itself is very sharp and, again, can cut through flesh very easily.
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