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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 2, 2020 18:20:39 GMT
Cleopatra have navy master, which allows her attack and his surroundings to have 15% bonus. Will the attack rise more if I let her have the Africanus uniform (same effect), or it doesn't add? If that doesn't add, Aggrippa will have it Same affect. I don’t think it can stack twice. You are better of getting Agrippa for that like I did |
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Post by Darth Vader on Jun 6, 2020 18:54:18 GMT
I feel like Cleopatra show have more economic abilitys. She did make Egypt whealthy during her regin and was a great leader.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 7, 2020 19:11:18 GMT
I feel like Cleopatra show have more economic abilitys. She did make Egypt whealthy during her regin and was a great leader. There are no econ generals in gcr (not a bad thing either). The econ generals were best in wc4 imo, where combined with a medal, you could easily jump start your industrial and technological growth. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jun 8, 2020 10:46:09 GMT
I feel like Cleopatra show have more economic abilitys. She did make Egypt whealthy during her regin and was a great leader. There are no econ generals in gcr (not a bad thing either). The econ generals were best in wc4 imo, where combined with a medal, you could easily jump start your industrial and technological growth. Off-topic: That is if you were defending and letting your "living" monument enhance your output. A pure econs gen (like most of the French gens) is useless under most circumstances. At least Dowding can be used to launch air strikes. On-topic: If Cleopatra were to have econs skills, she'd drop from a 3.75-4.5* rating to 2.5-1*. If aggressive and smart enough, the economy can be resolved by conquering enemy bases. |
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Jun 8, 2020 16:29:21 GMT
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 8, 2020 16:29:21 GMT
There are no econ generals in gcr (not a bad thing either). The econ generals were best in wc4 imo, where combined with a medal, you could easily jump start your industrial and technological growth. Off-topic: That is if you were defending and letting your "living" monument enhance your output. A pure econs gen (like most of the French gens) is useless under most circumstances. At least Dowding can be used to launch air strikes. On-topic: If Cleopatra were to have econs skills, she'd drop from a 3.75-4.5* rating to 2.5-1*. If aggressive and smart enough, the economy can be resolved by conquering enemy bases. Indeed. Cleopatra is at least a 4/5 due to archer commander... |
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Post by Darth Vader on Jun 8, 2020 17:14:45 GMT
Off-topic: That is if you were defending and letting your "living" monument enhance your output. A pure econs gen (like most of the French gens) is useless under most circumstances. At least Dowding can be used to launch air strikes. On-topic: If Cleopatra were to have econs skills, she'd drop from a 3.75-4.5* rating to 2.5-1*. If aggressive and smart enough, the economy can be resolved by conquering enemy bases. Indeed. Cleopatra is at least a 4/5 due to archer commander... Well, since the navy was basically sowardsmen and archers I see why they gave her Archer capabilities. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 8, 2020 23:09:13 GMT
Indeed. Cleopatra is at least a 4/5 due to archer commander... Well, since the navy was basically sowardsmen and archers I see why they gave her Archer capabilities. She is still better than Li as Li’s lvl 1 archer commander makes me want to vomit. That combined with the fact that Li is a general cleopatra without the naval capabilities makes him a meh alternative. I’d say for me that she is better than Octavian, but worse than Drusus, Mihredates. Imo pedius always exists as a cheap alternative and he can also do things neither drusus nor mihredates can, this resulting in a good archer team, one with a tank, a nuke, and a debugger. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 8, 2020 23:10:47 GMT
Octavian is actually very slightly better than general cleo, but general cleo has more versatility so she wins.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jun 9, 2020 8:57:49 GMT
Octavian is actually very slightly better than general cleo, but general cleo has more versatility so she wins. The argument against her is really the number of Actiums or Ionian Naval Battles you face. Undeniably, she may have potential in helping out with Daily Missions, but her versatility is useless if she has no chance to consistently let loose. If you're just saving medals to fill the full 12 slots, she's good as the 4th archer if you just want powerhouses + 1-2 unique gens (like Cleopatra). |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jun 9, 2020 13:29:41 GMT
Octavian is actually very slightly better than general cleo, but general cleo has more versatility so she wins. The argument against her is really the number of Actiums or Ionian Naval Battles you face. Undeniably, she may have potential in helping out with Daily Missions, but her versatility is useless if she has no chance to consistently let loose. If you're just saving medals to fill the full 12 slots, she's good as the 4th archer if you just want powerhouses + 1-2 unique gens (like Cleopatra). Agreed. Whether or not she is better than Agrippa is also another question. To answer this I will ignore that if you share gcr on facebook, you get an item equivalent to the Africanus uniform. Its really not that good of an item, and imo it hurts Agrippa’s more important land potential to be considered. In the past, I said Agrippa was better than cleo. I think Cleopatra land ability as an archer is just as good as Agrippa’s land ability as an infantry general. But what archer commander does for cleo is either more than or equal to the contributions that roar does for Agrippa. In navy on navy battles, Agrippa has more hp and is also general, but Cleo is an aura whereas Agrippa will be by himself. You don’t really need an aura navy general as you can make the commander that when it’s really needed. But Agrippa will have massive crits at sea which can actually one shot some units. In the rare cases where Agrippa is at sea and a war elephant on a very weak carrier emerges is where Agrippa will truly shine as he will be able to get rid huge threats on land with mininal casualties at sea. But imo even that situation is very rare as most of the time you will be fighting on land not at sea. Yeah they are equal imo. They can and will be good if bought, but neither or the two is exceptionally strong on land to justify buying over say Vercingetorix or Augustus |
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Jun 27, 2020 9:47:42 GMT
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Post by malemermaid on Jun 27, 2020 9:47:42 GMT
Does Cleopatra have enough capability points to master what's she strong about (archer and navy?)
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Jun 27, 2020 11:55:12 GMT
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jun 27, 2020 11:55:12 GMT
Does Cleopatra have enough capability points to master what's she strong about (archer and navy?) Based on raw atk power from her Navy points, yes. Her Archer points is slightly less than what is desired (8 points). If you're looking for an archer, you may as well go for Mithridates who is the best. You don't really need to focus too much on navy, but even the Commander's raw atk points will be enough. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 10, 2021 16:49:14 GMT
Inferior to Agrippa a.k.a. Literal Poseidon a.k.a. Holland Smith.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 10:23:49 GMT
3 stars
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 12, 2021 18:54:46 GMT
Isn't a land unit in the Sea counted as a naval unit, without any land bonuses? I mean in water You benefit from Your points in navy AND in archery for example. Is this true? |
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