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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Jul 9, 2019 13:58:25 GMT
Crassus seems too weak to me, Ver is just all around a better choice since you can get siege engines to buff damage against cities
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Post by zabadanov86 on Jul 9, 2019 15:44:48 GMT
Vercingetorix is better then Crassus 100% but cities are hard to crack and have multiple tiles, put Crassus between city tiles and let him attack and retaliate, that is his role.
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Jul 9, 2019 16:12:19 GMT
But is that role worth paying 586 medals for?
Worth a spot that someone else could have on the team?
What about someone with siege equipment and the ability to attack again, like pompey?
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Post by zabadanov86 on Jul 9, 2019 16:24:37 GMT
Allready have Pompey. Im concidering him for third inf commander.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 9, 2019 17:24:26 GMT
Allready have Pompey. Im concidering him for third inf commander. My bad I got confused, i thought you said you had the free commander and ver as the infantry generals. Unless you do and you don’t count the free infantry general as one. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 9, 2019 17:25:17 GMT
Vercingetorix is better then Crassus 100% but cities are hard to crack and have multiple tiles, put Crassus between city tiles and let him attack and retaliate, that is his role. Not that hard in my opinion, most of my generals struggle more with killing the unit inside the city than the actual city itself. |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Jul 9, 2019 18:23:00 GMT
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 9, 2019 18:32:05 GMT
Here is my crew and their acomplisments☺    A beautiful team. Almost brings a tear in my eye. Yeah I would get a cavarly general if anything in your position. You are really good everywhere else imo. By the time you even need to consider buying another infantry general, you will have already beaten the game 😂 |
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Post by Lucius Vorenus on Jul 9, 2019 23:32:08 GMT
I don't have him yet but am looking forward to Crassus, he seems great for conquest which is my favorite mode.
I dumped verc for pompey with zero regrets.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 9, 2019 23:54:36 GMT
I don't have him yet but am looking forward to Crassus, he seems great for conquest which is my favorite mode. I dumped verc for pompey with zero regrets. Ver is good just hard to use. Yeah I think looking back crassus ain’t that bad. Btw, if you dislike ver but like pompey, maybe labienus would be a good choice for you. Labienus will have double attack so he’ll deal more damage on average to cities than crassus himself. |
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Post by Lucius Vorenus on Jul 10, 2019 1:50:37 GMT
I don't have him yet but am looking forward to Crassus, he seems great for conquest which is my favorite mode. I dumped verc for pompey with zero regrets. Ver is good just hard to use. Yeah I think looking back crassus ain’t that bad. Btw, if you dislike ver but like pompey, maybe labienus would be a good choice for you. Labienus will have double attack so he’ll deal more damage on average to cities than crassus himself. Im not sure he would, at least not for the way I would play Crassus. I believe infantry commander maxes out at 25%, siege at 60 damage? So on average infantry commander will attack 5x compared to 4x, which means the extra attack would have to do 240 city damage to equal siege. That would be pretty hard to pull off even with a max stack of high tier units, and impossible with just 2-3 stacks of light infantry, which is exactly what my Crassus will be on as thats what makes sense during early conquest. Siege, tunnel and counterattack will provide consistent damage regardless of what tier unit Crassus is on or how banged up he is as they are all flat damage bonuses. That combined with his mobility makes him perfect for early conquest rounds where he can rush ahead of the main force and start cracking a city by himself even on a weak unit. Well, thats how I imagine it anyways, like I said I don't have him yet  . But I was doing something similar with a different gen in a conquest recently and just kept thinking how much more effective it would be with Crassus. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 10, 2019 1:52:40 GMT
Ver is good just hard to use. Yeah I think looking back crassus ain’t that bad. Btw, if you dislike ver but like pompey, maybe labienus would be a good choice for you. Labienus will have double attack so he’ll deal more damage on average to cities than crassus himself. Im not sure he would, at least not for the way I would play Crassus. I believe infantry commander maxes out at 25%, siege at 60 damage? So on average infantry commander will attack 5x compared to 4x, which means the extra attack would have to do 240 city damage to equal siege. That would be pretty hard to pull off even with a max stack of high tier units, and impossible with just 2-3 stacks of light infantry, which is exactly what my Crassus will be on as thats what makes sense during early conquest. Siege, tunnel and counterattack will provide consistent damage regardless of what tier unit Crassus is on or how banged up he is as they are all flat damage bonuses. That combined with his mobility makes him perfect for early conquest rounds where he can rush ahead of the main force and start cracking a city by himself even on a weak unit. Well, thats how I imagine it anyways, like I said I don't have him yet . But I was doing something similar with a different gen in a conquest recently and just kept thinking how much more effective it would be with Crassus. Tunnel actually doesn’t work on cavarly, it is infantry only. And I see. Well if you make a cloud save before buying him, you can probably figure out if he is a perfect match on your team. He isn’t bad, he is just different |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 3:45:50 GMT
I'm gonna say it. Crassus is better than Vercingetorix. There I said it  . As to why, it's more subtle. Vercingetorix will outright slaughter Crassus in a 1v1,but since the game is focused around taking cities and objectives, Crassus skills come to play. March is just a really great skill. That extra 1 range of movement is the difference of 3 stars in a campaign and a 2 stars. Siege is a great skill which seems to be overlooked. At max rank, it deals 48 damage to city defense. That is quite a lot. With enough attack, Crassus can one shot city 3s,or if not 1 shot, deal enough damage so a single destroy will do the job. Tunnel is just awful, but not useless. 20 damage at max rank will stack up. I would have preferred if this was shield wall, but you can't have everything I suppose. Counterattack is useful for holding cities, and is nasty against infantry and cavalry. His talent is not bad. I used to think Vercingetorix was better, but after careful consideration, I would say Crassus is better. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 15, 2019 3:56:39 GMT
If you want city cracker, choose Crassus but if you want Slaughter, Verci is the best. It depends on your style. Verci is good in both attack and defend. His talent and Roar, Jungle fighting (I also use Laurel Crown on him) make him very good and stable attacker. Combination of 2 best defend skill (Ambush and Shield wall) make him very durable. IMO, Verci is better guy, he even better than Spartacus When Verci attack someone, he has 51% makes critical dame or receive 0 or half of damage. When someone attacks him, he has 36% retaliation with critical attack or receive half of damage. It's good IMO. |
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Jul 15, 2019 5:40:37 GMT
I'm gonna say it. Crassus is better than Vercingetorix. There I said it . As to why, it's more subtle. Vercingetorix will outright slaughter Crassus in a 1v1,but since the game is focused around taking cities and objectives, Crassus skills come to play. March is just a really great skill. That extra 1 range of movement is the difference of 3 stars in a campaign and a 2 stars. Siege is a great skill which seems to be overlooked. At max rank, it deals 48 damage to city defense. That is quite a lot. With enough attack, Crassus can one shot city 3s,or if not 1 shot, deal enough damage so a single destroy will do the job. Tunnel is just awful, but not useless. 20 damage at max rank will stack up. I would have preferred if this was shield wall, but you can't have everything I suppose. Counterattack is useful for holding cities, and is nasty against infantry and cavalry. His talent is not bad. I used to think Vercingetorix was better, but after careful consideration, I would say Crassus is better. It seems you value cities more than anything else, because you view this game mostly for conquest mode. Personally I mostly play the campaign, where Vercing's ability to slaughter is generally more valuable given that most campaign missions require you to kill "X" amount of enemy units in order to get three stars. Given your guide is written as a way to use conquests to get the best generals, it makes sense from your viewpoint that crassus is better, as he does move further and do more damage to cities which the AI will more often leave undefended in conquest it seems. I think the value of one or the other does depend on how you decide to play the game, as EasyTech did a good job giving us a lot of ways to advance in this game. For conquest I can understand valuing Crassus more, and so far I have only really used him in campaign, so it would make sense that we have these different viewpoints. Would you agree Crassus is to conquest as Vercing is to campaigns or expeditions? |
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. But I was doing something similar with a different gen in a conquest recently and just kept thinking how much more effective it would be with Crassus.
. As to why, it's more subtle. Vercingetorix will outright slaughter Crassus in a 1v1,but since the game is focused around taking cities and objectives, Crassus skills come to play. March is just a really great skill. That extra 1 range of movement is the difference of 3 stars in a campaign and a 2 stars. Siege is a great skill which seems to be overlooked. At max rank, it deals 48 damage to city defense. That is quite a lot. With enough attack, Crassus can one shot city 3s,or if not 1 shot, deal enough damage so a single destroy will do the job. Tunnel is just awful, but not useless. 20 damage at max rank will stack up. I would have preferred if this was shield wall, but you can't have everything I suppose. Counterattack is useful for holding cities, and is nasty against infantry and cavalry. His talent is not bad. I used to think Vercingetorix was better, but after careful consideration, I would say Crassus is better. 
