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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 25, 2019 12:26:28 GMT
Another thing worth mentioned about aura is this... Panel Attack = Basic Attack * Formation Coefficient * Morale Bonus * Buff Effect III + Weapon Props + Generals Individual Arms Ability Bonus + Individual Rank Plus + Elementary School BonusBased on this formula, since aura is Buff Effect III, it only affects basic unit attack, NOT weapon bonus, NOT general ability, NOT upgrades. So cavalry aura gives the same bonus damage to a light cavalry unit with or without Hannibal. It may not be as OP as it is in EW6. EW6 aura is also added to attack of the unit if speaking about the general himself. Are You sure aura influenced overall attack of the ally? Real aura power in EW6 is because it stacks. No it definitely buffed your allies and vice versa. Kind of why it is smart to fight an allied massena and follow him around |
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Post by andrei on Jul 25, 2019 12:56:02 GMT
EW6 aura is also added to attack of the unit if speaking about the general himself. Are You sure aura influenced overall attack of the ally? Real aura power in EW6 is because it stacks. No it definitely buffed your allies and vice versa. Kind of why it is smart to fight an allied massena and follow him around  I mean whether it buffed base attack (+item) of the ally only or the overall attack with all buffs? |
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Post by kanue on Jul 25, 2019 15:17:26 GMT
No it definitely buffed your allies and vice versa. Kind of why it is smart to fight an allied massena and follow him around I mean whether it buffed base attack (+item) of the ally only or the overall attack with all buffs? Here's damage formula from EW6, posted by Erich von MansteinStat atk=rounddown((unit base atk+tech bonus+lvl bonus+aura bonus)*(1+rounddown(general battle ability/400+rounddown(general unit ability/400),2)+morale bonus*terrain bonus*country tech bonus)*HP coefficient,0)
Aura bonus is added the based damage before the whole thing is multiplied by general battle/unit ability. So a stronger general benefits more from the aura bonus. This is not the case here in GCR where the aura buff is a percentage that multiplies to unit base damage before the flat damage from general ability is added. |
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Post by andrei on Jul 25, 2019 15:27:21 GMT
I mean whether it buffed base attack (+item) of the ally only or the overall attack with all buffs? Here's damage formula from EW6, posted by Erich von Manstein Stat atk=rounddown((unit base atk+tech bonus+lvl bonus+aura bonus)*(1+rounddown(general battle ability/400+rounddown(general unit ability/400),2)+morale bonus*terrain bonus*country tech bonus)*HP coefficient,0)
Aura bonus is added the based damage before the whole thing is multiplied by general battle/unit ability. So a stronger general benefits more from the aura bonus. This is not the case here in GCR where the aura buff is a percentage that multiplies to unit base damage before the flat damage from general ability is added. Oh, I see, gen's stat is not affected. Yes. But frankly speaking it is marginal difference. If You compare final attack stat of aura and strongest non-aura generals difference is not that big. Real aura power was in possibility to stack its effect imo. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 25, 2019 15:39:30 GMT
Here's damage formula from EW6, posted by Erich von Manstein Stat atk=rounddown((unit base atk+tech bonus+lvl bonus+aura bonus)*(1+rounddown(general battle ability/400+rounddown(general unit ability/400),2)+morale bonus*terrain bonus*country tech bonus)*HP coefficient,0)
Aura bonus is added the based damage before the whole thing is multiplied by general battle/unit ability. So a stronger general benefits more from the aura bonus. This is not the case here in GCR where the aura buff is a percentage that multiplies to unit base damage before the flat damage from general ability is added. Oh, I see, gen's stat is not affected. Yes. But frankly speaking it is marginal difference. If You compare final attack stat of aura and strongest non-aura generals difference is not that big. Real aura power was in possibility to stack its effect imo. So aura buff is meh in this game. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 17:57:52 GMT
Oh, I see, gen's stat is not affected. Yes. But frankly speaking it is marginal difference. If You compare final attack stat of aura and strongest non-aura generals difference is not that big. Real aura power was in possibility to stack its effect imo. So aura buff is meh in this game. Kinda. But Hannibal with War chariots is definitely not a meh |
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Post by stoic on Jul 25, 2019 18:12:17 GMT
Between "meh" and "great" there are many degrees of evaluation . I wouldn't call a talent buffing a general himself and all units of the same type within 5 squares bad by any standards  |
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Post by stoic on Jul 25, 2019 18:29:40 GMT
Don't forget we can upgrade the basic attack of units in HQ. So 15% is not that bad. If our cavalry units have attack around 100 points and there is Hannibal nearby it is like all our cavalry units within aura receive "+ 15 attack" item for free...
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Post by andrei on Jul 25, 2019 19:14:21 GMT
Yeah, aura is not OP like in EW6, but quite strong anyway.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 25, 2019 19:26:07 GMT
I mean its good, but the difference between mih vi and caesar isn’t that big
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 25, 2019 23:08:51 GMT
I mean its good, but the difference between mih vi and caesar isn’t that big Because Mithri's talent is also very good talent |
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Post by barbarossa on Jul 26, 2019 3:21:12 GMT
I bought the “consul’s scepter”. If I add this to a general who already has aura, does it add to the damage of their current aura? It says 15% to one hex. Would this mean Ceaser has 30% for one square?
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Post by kanue on Aug 4, 2019 4:36:19 GMT
I find that my Commander's aura works regardless of which uniform he is wearing.
That means my infantry units get buffed even if my Commander is wearing Africanus Uniform ... which also means my Commander's aura buffs both infantry and navy.
Not sure whether this is a bug, but if this is also the case for cavalry and archer later on when we get those uniforms then... probably our Commander will have an omnipotent aura.
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Post by andrei on Aug 4, 2019 5:19:13 GMT
I find that my Commander's aura works regardless of which uniform he is wearing. That means my infantry units get buffed even if my Commander is wearing Africanus Uniform ... which also means my Commander's aura buffs both infantry and navy. Not sure whether this is a bug, but if this is also the case for cavalry and archer later on when we get those uniforms then... probably our Commander will have an omnipotent aura. It is not a bug, it is a feature  ET mentioned it on the manual. |
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Post by kanue on Aug 4, 2019 7:37:38 GMT
Nice!!! I must have missed that.
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I mean whether it buffed base attack (+item) of the ally only or the overall attack with all buffs?
