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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 26, 2019 3:51:18 GMT
Since I saw Kanue give us equation : Panel Attack = Basic Attack * Formation Coefficient * Morale Bonus * Buff Effect III + Weapon Props + Generals Individual Arms Ability Bonus + Individual Rank Plus + Elementary School Bonus I make experiments and get this result :
Final attack = Origin attack + Upgrade in Senate + General's capacity bonus + Bonus from item + Origin attack x (Formation Coefficient x Aura effect 1 x Aura effect 2 - 100%) Origin attack = attack of unit in single formation without any upgrade in Senate Upgrade in Senate: very clear meaning. General's capacity bonus: very clear meaning. Formation Coefficient: this number including general rank as follow. And it's formate is 1xx% (xx% is addtional percent) Without general: Single +0%, Double +10%, Triple +20% and so on. With general: Single = the number you see in description of rank. Such as Centurion: Single +15%, Double +25%, Triple +35% and so on. Aura effect 1 = Aura from Talent (including Commander's) = 115% Aura effect 2 = Aura from Scepter = 115% I also make actual Experiment in game - Spartacus Uprising, Auxiliary Inf and Slinger units, +5 atk in Inf and + 12 atk in Archer in Senate - and get result shown in attached Excel file. All actual and theory numbers are suitable  I will add the morale factor into equation later |
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Post by andrei on Jul 31, 2019 12:13:07 GMT
  Can someone explain the difference in the unit's attack? I used Rome-Ceaser Heavy infantry (lvl2) in the Ceaser time conquest. No flags, no items. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 31, 2019 12:15:17 GMT
Can someone explain the difference in the unit's attack? I used Rome-Ceaser Heavy infantry (lvl2) in the Ceaser time conquest. No flags, no items. Rank |
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Post by andrei on Jul 31, 2019 12:18:33 GMT
stoic, true. Forgot about it. It is like.. who the hell need to spend so many medals to promote to Consul? Never checked the difference. I was actually thinking to promote Pompey. Now I think he is good
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Post by stoic on Jul 31, 2019 12:22:27 GMT
stoic, true. Forgot about it. It is like.. who the hell need to spend so many medals to promote to Consul? Never checked the difference. I was actually thinking to promote Pompey. Now I think he is good Well, there is at least one good reason to promote your Commander to Consul |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 31, 2019 12:28:44 GMT
stoic, true. Forgot about it. It is like.. who the hell need to spend so many medals to promote to Consul? Never checked the difference. I was actually thinking to promote Pompey. Now I think he is good Well, there is at least one good reason to promote your Commander to Consul 575 medals for 1 turn less for a tier 5 unit, and a five percent damage difference is not really worth it to me. Only 70 more medals and you can buy octavian, the most expensive general in the game. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 31, 2019 12:30:53 GMT
Well, there is at least one good reason to promote your Commander to Consul 575 medals for 1 turn less for a tier 5 unit, and a five percent damage difference is not really worth it to me. Only 70 more medals and you can buy octavian, the most expensive general in the game. I mean Sceptre is a great item for our Commander nonetheless |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 31, 2019 12:32:43 GMT
575 medals for 1 turn less for a tier 5 unit, and a five percent damage difference is not really worth it to me. Only 70 more medals and you can buy octavian, the most expensive general in the game. I mean Sceptre is a great item for our Commander nonetheless True you do get access to top tier items. But still. Thats a long ways down the road till I am considering that |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 31, 2019 12:34:06 GMT
Well, there is at least one good reason to promote your Commander to Consul 575 medals for 1 turn less for a tier 5 unit, and a five percent damage difference is not really worth it to me. Only 70 more medals and you can buy octavian, the most expensive general in the game. It's not 5% of total damage, it just 5% of atk of single no upgraded unit (when you don't use aura). Too small number  |
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Post by andrei on Jul 31, 2019 12:37:15 GMT
Well, there is at least one good reason to promote your Commander to Consul 575 medals for 1 turn less for a tier 5 unit, and a five percent damage difference is not really worth it to me. Only 70 more medals and you can buy octavian, the most expensive general in the game. Yeah, I don't need 5th unit in my legion. At least for now. I hate the situation that I need to wait 2 turns to get 4th unit for my Crassus. That's why upgrading him to Marshal is probably a good idea. But Consul is not important now. Maybe future campaigns and conquests... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 12:46:09 GMT
575 medals for 1 turn less for a tier 5 unit, and a five percent damage difference is not really worth it to me. Only 70 more medals and you can buy octavian, the most expensive general in the game. Yeah, I don't need 5th unit in my legion. At least for now. I hate the situation that I need to wait 2 turns to get 4th unit for my Crassus. That's why upgrading him to Marshal is probably a good idea. But Consul is not important now. Maybe future campaigns and conquests... The only useful use of Consul is the ability to equip the Scepter. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 31, 2019 12:56:46 GMT
Yeah, I don't need 5th unit in my legion. At least for now. I hate the situation that I need to wait 2 turns to get 4th unit for my Crassus. That's why upgrading him to Marshal is probably a good idea. But Consul is not important now. Maybe future campaigns and conquests... The only useful use of Consul is the ability to equip the Scepter. And therefore only one man is worthy to be promoted. I think it is just. Though, there were two Consuls in the Roman republic |
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Post by andrei on Jul 31, 2019 13:00:15 GMT
There was the plan to add items with the update. Any news? Not to much incentives to promote gens to Consul in case there will be no more powerful (Consul requirement) items.
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Post by andrei on Jul 31, 2019 17:27:57 GMT
575 medals for 1 turn less for a tier 5 unit, and a five percent damage difference is not really worth it to me. Only 70 more medals and you can buy octavian, the most expensive general in the game. I mean Sceptre is a great item for our Commander nonetheless I have Roar so I think that Spear won't be worse than Scepter. Like with Pompey with Scepter supporting my Commander with Spear is great combo. Commander's attack is also increased with Spear as well as crit rate will be 40% + he is almost always with high morale. Very promising combo imo. |
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