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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Sept 6, 2019 16:22:59 GMT
Both are nearly the same in cost and skills. However, one is considered worse than the other.
Who is the better of the two?
Will Counterattack beat Street Fighting?
Is it better to have a chance at either attacking a 2nd time or ignoring fortifications (breastworks)?
Will you exchange a lvl 1 Besiege and lvl 3 Accuracy for lvl 4 Besiege and lvl 2 Accuracy?
Edit: Removed poll to limit the options to these two.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 6, 2019 20:59:55 GMT
I picked surena as a meme. I do think counterattack is better than urban though. Drusus actually has a bit of both
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 7, 2019 14:46:16 GMT
Speaking of which though, about mihridates, i kind of want to reconsider my approach. If you stack him up on a high tier unit, his talent and besiege will work very well together. And when they don’t, he will still have advantage, jungle fighting, and archer commander. I personally think that is pretty overpowered. At times, he will have all of his skills working together leading to pretty devastating results. At the very least, he will be amazing at finishing off strong units w or w/o generals.
But in others, he might have none. Whereas drusus will always have both inspire and advantage turned on. Hide is always quite good because often times you have to use archers to attack other archers. Rain of arrow is also a good skill.
Maybe if you give him a gold ring, he will have quite a bit of potential. What do you guys think about him? If nothing else, archer commander, jungle fighting, and advantage is an amazing combination which no one else possesses other than Caesar which i have. I am on the fence.
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Post by andrei on Sept 7, 2019 16:05:43 GMT
Speaking of which though, about mihridates, i kind of want to reconsider my approach. If you stack him up on a high tier unit, his talent and besiege will work very well together. And when they don’t, he will still have advantage, jungle fighting, and archer commander. I personally think that is pretty overpowered. At times, he will have all of his skills working together leading to pretty devastating results. At the very least, he will be amazing at finishing off strong units w or w/o generals. But in others, he might have none. Whereas drusus will always have both inspire and advantage turned on. Hide is always quite good because often times you have to use archers to attack other archers. Rain of arrow is also a good skill. Maybe if you give him a gold ring, he will have quite a bit of potential. What do you guys think about him? If nothing else, archer commander, jungle fighting, and advantage is an amazing combination which no one else possesses other than Caesar which i have. I am on the fence. Never use archers against archers. It's painful. There is always a target like strong enemy infantry or cavalry which is tempting to halve with no retaliation. Don't use Ring anymore as normally all my main attacking gens are high morale anyway. I use crossbow with Mithri. And normally put him on easy to replenish unit like bowman, so he could maintain many units in the legion all the time. He is very powerful. Especially if You have Caeser to support him with aura. Monster pair. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 7, 2019 17:02:01 GMT
Speaking of which though, about mihridates, i kind of want to reconsider my approach. If you stack him up on a high tier unit, his talent and besiege will work very well together. And when they don’t, he will still have advantage, jungle fighting, and archer commander. I personally think that is pretty overpowered. At times, he will have all of his skills working together leading to pretty devastating results. At the very least, he will be amazing at finishing off strong units w or w/o generals. But in others, he might have none. Whereas drusus will always have both inspire and advantage turned on. Hide is always quite good because often times you have to use archers to attack other archers. Rain of arrow is also a good skill. Maybe if you give him a gold ring, he will have quite a bit of potential. What do you guys think about him? If nothing else, archer commander, jungle fighting, and advantage is an amazing combination which no one else possesses other than Caesar which i have. I am on the fence. Never use archers against archers. It's painful. There is always a target like strong enemy infantry or cavalry which is tempting to halve with no retaliation. Don't use Ring anymore as normally all my main attacking gens are high morale anyway. I use crossbow with Mithri. And normally put him on easy to replenish unit like bowman, so he could maintain many units in the legion all the time. He is very powerful. Especially if You have Caeser to support him with aura. Monster pair. Nice. Solid points. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 7, 2019 17:02:52 GMT
My favorite general from this list has to be Dusus. He is so op 😂😂😂
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Sept 8, 2019 1:51:21 GMT
My favorite general from this list has to be Dusus. He is so op 😂😂😂 Ironically, the bottom three in sequence are actually there as part of a joke. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Sept 9, 2019 2:07:12 GMT
I picked surena as a meme. I do think counterattack is better than urban though. Drusus actually has a bit of both Counterattack is indeed a universal Universal Skill, whereas Street Fighting is limited to planting your gens inside facilities and/or the city centre to attack/defend. This does make Street Fighting slight more disadvantageous. However, there are situations when I intend on using my gens to hold cities (defence missions with limited troops and resources) so SF is not a waste. In terms of raw atk points, Octavian seems to have a slight edge. He has 5 Archery and 4 Navy VS Surena's 4 Archery and 3 Navy. Since Octavian is 1 lvl lower (being at lvl 18), it seems possible for the Emperor to have 1 more atk point for either inf or cav compared to lvl 19 Surena. Of course, the cost difference is still cheaper than the rank difference (Legatus VS General). So Octavian technically gets a point here, yet how often will we actually recruit up to 5 units per legion of troops? |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 9, 2019 2:48:48 GMT
I picked surena as a meme. I do think counterattack is better than urban though. Drusus actually has a bit of both Counterattack is indeed a universal Universal Skill, whereas Street Fighting is limited to planting your gens inside facilities and/or the city centre to attack/defend. This does make Street Fighting slight more disadvantageous. However, there are situations when I intend on using my gens to hold cities (defence missions with limited troops and resources) so SF is not a waste. In terms of raw atk points, Octavian seems to have a slight edge. He has 5 Archery and 4 Navy VS Surena's 4 Archery and 3 Navy. Since Octavian is 1 lvl lower (being at lvl 18), it seems possible for the Emperor to have 1 more atk point for either inf or cav compared to lvl 19 Surena. Of course, the cost difference is still cheaper than the rank difference (Legatus VS General). So Octavian technically gets a point here, yet how often will we actually recruit up to 5 units per legion of troops? Don’t forget archer commander... which is kind of the best skill in the game. Otherwise, even still, octavian is slightly better than surena when it does trigger. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 9, 2019 2:51:05 GMT
As for street fighting vs counterattack, depends mainly on the unit. I’d say for infantry navy and archers, counterattack is better. Its obviously best when both stack together as shown by scipio. Actually I kind of can see why kingbutawl has a fondness for him. On cavarly urban is on par with counterattack.
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