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Post by Pietro Badoglio on Oct 25, 2019 23:50:20 GMT
WC3 player here who decided to play WC4. Game seems pretty different and I kinda don't like feeling like a complete noob again. Are there any tips that I should know? What are my goals and what should I buy/save for next (already bought Messe cause he looks pretty popular). Should I also upgrade his rumor skills because it seems to be pretty damn good or should I just save for a new general. The economy seems pretty different and almost all the things I knew about WC3 seem to be pretty much useless here. I'll do some reading in the forums but any important thing I should know would be greatly appreciated!
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Oct 29, 2019 4:11:32 GMT
Messe, leeb, konev, guderian (basic general path)
Ill elaborate more later when im free
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Oct 29, 2019 10:50:46 GMT
Ok so with what you can try to grind as many conquests as you can. Unlock as many achievements as possible, and with messe you can complete quite a number of missions for medals. If you are stuck then the forum also has several suggested guides. After getting the mentioned generals, your foundations are pretty much set for your own general choices.
In wc3, artillery generals are favored but in wc4 its all about tanks and naval generals. Personally for tanks I have Guderian, Rokossovsky and Rommel, and for navy i have Donitz and Nimitz. Never purchase the 'famous generals' without full discounts
For technology upgrades focus on tank, infantry, artillery and air first. I recommend movement and range as those make missions and conquests much more manageable.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Oct 29, 2019 10:51:47 GMT
Upgrade messe rumor to level 2. In fact ensure that most of your key generals have at least level 2 skills for maximum efficiency
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Post by K S Thimayya on Nov 3, 2019 13:56:43 GMT
I am also new (yeah I am reattempting the game, after a heartbreaking defeat in 1939 Germany conquest) currently have about 645 medals, unupgraded Messe, HQ level 11, done a few upgrades in tank artillery and infantry, currently no more resources and I don't know what I am supposed to do now. As I am stuck in western front level 8 allies and level 8 axis. Please help. Thanks in advance.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Nov 3, 2019 14:29:16 GMT
There are pinned guides and General analyses in this board if any one wants to consult for help.
For in-depth help with Scemarios and Conquests, you can look up the stage/Conquest's respective guide in the pinned thread in the Way of the Emperor.
Ultimately, the goal is to get Guderian and a 3-2-1 endgame lineup (3 tank, 2 arty and 1 navy gen). You can add more gens if you want or need them. I invested in a 2nd navy gen (Kuznetsov) so that I cam perform better in Domination battles.
Of course, if you want to play in an unconventional manner, there are alternative gen paths and gens to choose from, but you'll need to request for specific guides.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Nov 3, 2019 15:03:43 GMT
Yep like donitz as your second naval generals hands down hes much better than kuznetsov but hes v low priority until all your basic generals are ready
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Post by K S Thimayya on Nov 4, 2019 8:00:22 GMT
Thank you Nobunaga Oda for your info, the guide for the conquests have Auchinleck and Leeb as generals I want to know how I guess both are expensive than Messe and have no Idea how to get them at this stage. Is there anything I am missing out? When should I begin conquest mode, because last time I did, an easy 1939 Germany conquests I was defeated, and I am still unsure if I am missing anything or not.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Nov 4, 2019 10:29:30 GMT
Thank you Nobunaga Oda for your info, the guide for the conquests have Auchinleck and Leeb as generals I want to know how I guess both are expensive than Messe and have no Idea how to get them at this stage. Is there anything I am missing out? When should I begin conquest mode, because last time I did, an easy 1939 Germany conquests I was defeated, and I am still unsure if I am missing anything or not. The most common starter is still the Messe-Leeb starter. Clear out Scenarios and Domination to earn more medals. Try to pay attention to why you were defeated. Was it due to the lack of focus on specific fronts? A less aggressive strategy pursued?
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Nov 4, 2019 14:45:10 GMT
Thank you Nobunaga Oda for your info, the guide for the conquests have Auchinleck and Leeb as generals I want to know how I guess both are expensive than Messe and have no Idea how to get them at this stage. Is there anything I am missing out? When should I begin conquest mode, because last time I did, an easy 1939 Germany conquests I was defeated, and I am still unsure if I am missing anything or not. for 1939 if youre playing as an axis power and find yourself losing try to rely on ensuring that other allies survive longer in order to carry you through. One good way will be to rely on italy to help you spearhead through ussr cuz italy sends messe and graziani which are both very op in the 1939 context
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Dec 1, 2019 10:39:47 GMT
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on Dec 1, 2019 21:56:50 GMT
Going fine. Quit on my first account but came back 2 weeks ago and decided to stick with the game. Currently at the CWE. Debating whether to buy some wonders or to upgrade my tech. My current team is Messe, Leeb, Guderian, and Konev all with Rumor LVL 2. I've only got 350 medals left so I'm wondering what I should do next.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Dec 2, 2019 2:14:48 GMT
thats very fast progress in 2 weeks haha, how much have you upgraded your generals' base skills? For generals you may consider getting a navy general (donitz / nimitz) and get rommel next
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on Dec 2, 2019 3:31:59 GMT
I haven't upgraded anything else except rumor. I have however slapped all the medals I can get and Guderian has all this base skills boosted. And are Nimitz's missions hard? I haven't tried them as I haven't upgraded my tech past European Level.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Dec 2, 2019 8:54:53 GMT
nimitz's last one is pretty insane (not so much as rommel's, but needs very good naval tech)
^however you dont need naval gens nor air gens.
Once you get Konev's base skills likewise boosted you are pretty much okay until mid cold war
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