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Post by Seger on Jan 25, 2020 12:01:02 GMT
Am I wrong to say that defense formation is the most important skill in the game for infantry generals? In the skill ranking it is below infantry commander because attacking is more important than defending. But defense formation works for all units instead of just for infantry (not navy). I think we should have at least 2 of these kind of generals because it's always good to have extra defense.
think of the possibilities in germany 1914 for example you could use one general in the east and one to help Austria (it also works on allies)
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Post by stoic on Jan 25, 2020 12:06:46 GMT
16 percent is not that high for infantry units though. I personally prefer counterattack and revenge for infantry generals  |
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Post by Seger on Jan 25, 2020 12:25:31 GMT
but they do not help all the troops in your surrounding, isn't that worth something
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Post by stoic on Jan 25, 2020 12:42:57 GMT
but they do not help all the troops in your surrounding, isn't that worth something Maybe only in case of generals. Infantry Units without generals won't profit greatly.     |
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Post by Gone on Jan 25, 2020 15:41:57 GMT
but they do not help all the troops in your surrounding, isn't that worth something Also, you should try Revenge. It’s like a defensive Tactics Master (That is considered better than Tactics Master itself in the case of Infantry). |
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Post by Gone on Jan 25, 2020 15:47:05 GMT
but they do not help all the troops in your surrounding, isn't that worth something Maybe only in case of generals. Infantry Units without generals won't profit greatly. Which makes the aura aspect of the skill useless in the case of Infantry. Thus, it’s not that good. |
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Post by stoic on Jan 25, 2020 15:58:11 GMT
Which makes the aura aspect of the skill useless in the case of Infantry. Thus, it’s not that good. Well, on a positive side it works for all types of land units, and cavalry will definitely profit from an increased defense. If I am not mistaken it is the only skill in the game of such universal character. A general with this skill and eventually with a corresponding medal is quite useful. |
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Post by AlterFritz on Jan 25, 2020 16:34:17 GMT
16 percent is not that high for infantry units though. I personally prefer counterattack and revenge for infantry generals Counterattack and revenge doesn't participate from each other. I tested it with Moltke the younger and he does ~100 counterattack and the second counter damage was about ~80. |
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Post by Gone on Jan 25, 2020 16:37:39 GMT
16 percent is not that high for infantry units though. I personally prefer counterattack and revenge for infantry generals Counterattack and revenge doesn't participate from each other. I tested it with Moltke the younger and he does ~100 counterattack and the second counter damage was about ~80. How about just revenge? I believe it’s a great skill, because when a General counterattacks, they deal the same damage as normal. If the general is strong, he can very possibly kill a cavalry general if the cavalry general attacks and Revenge is triggered. Especially when great Infantry generals in this game like Petain are designed to be cavalry and artillery killers. |
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Post by Gone on Jan 25, 2020 16:43:50 GMT
However, Kevin recommends Pierce, and I must agree that Pierce is a great skill for Infantry, too.
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Post by stoic on Jan 25, 2020 17:28:07 GMT
16 percent is not that high for infantry units though. I personally prefer counterattack and revenge for infantry generals Counterattack and revenge doesn't participate from each other. I tested it with Moltke the younger and he does ~100 counterattack and the second counter damage was about ~80. I use Revenge with Jackson (who doesn't have Counterattack) and his second hit is always weaker than the first one. So, I presume the second attack is weaker by default. So, I think, that Counterattack and Revenge stack together, but we need to test Revenge with and without counterattack. All in all, both skills are quite good, because our units counterattack far more often than attack in this game. No surprise, AI uses an endless spamming quite often in all missions. |
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Post by Seger on Jan 25, 2020 17:48:28 GMT
revenge and counter attack are two good skills, but defense formation will only get better in the end game because the units also get better. think of tanks and armored cars that benefit enormously. but you could also give a general all three by switching two skills at bismarck for example, this takes 15 books and about 12 days to get those books but the combination of emperor and the three skills would make him very useful...
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Post by stoic on Jan 25, 2020 18:20:26 GMT
revenge and counter attack are two good skills, but defense formation will only get better in the end game because the units also get better. think of tanks and armored cars that benefit enormously. but you could also give a general all three by switching two skills at bismarck for example, this takes 15 books and about 12 days to get those books but the combination of emperor and the three skills would make him very useful... I think we can buy books when needed.45 medals is a quite expensive price for one book, but we definitely have enough medals to spend them in this way as well. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jan 25, 2020 18:24:16 GMT
A skill that is better on cavarly or artillery units due to bad defense. But really, its tolerable not great at best. Its not like escort in ew6
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Post by Gone on Jan 25, 2020 19:07:09 GMT
A skill that is better on cavarly or artillery units due to bad defense. But really, its tolerable not great at best. Its not like escort in ew6 We also have escort here.  |
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