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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Apr 17, 2020 22:16:29 GMT
THIS was unexpected !!!When I started to examine the requirements to get Victoria, I never expected this: It seems to be more likely a eco-conquest than a speed run π I will need more time as expected to finidsh this guide (it takes a lot of time to find the Tigger - for so many rounds!) - we don't need to hurry
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Post by Marshal Forwards on Apr 19, 2020 10:18:19 GMT
If I get around to grinding for more items and *s, I may try a Victoria/Lan run while I'm at SNS's Fires of Revolution. Maybe we'll have more samples from me then. I fear that I may only be ready at the end of the year. I have beautiful news for you - it's no speed run !!! With maxed resources you can finish up to round 38! I just tested it. Ok, I can partly reproduce it. Using my old save of round 30, and a trick, I got 850 years rule up to round 36. The trick works like this: my cavalry general for the conquest was regrouped after it, leaving an open seat in the save. I deployed a 5* trader with napoleonic code in Rome got therefor a much better trading rate tha Archduke before.Β At round 36 years switched to 800 first, but I was able to once more turn it to 650 by final trading gold for food up to 9999 and metal for gold up to 9999. from Round 37 it stayed on 800, no matter what I tried.Β It must be considered Iβm finished with the game, so campaign stars (420) rank (lvl 57) and nobility (lvl 65) are high. hereβre the screenshots of the previous rounds:
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Apr 20, 2020 0:50:52 GMT
[ ... I cut this to keep the thread small - thank you for testing ! ] As I can see from your numbers your economy of your run is sadly too weak - the trigger grows faster than your resources - normal as you we're running for round 31 - for a eco-run you have to upgrade into the 30ies - and upgrading factories becomes more relevant. If you can collect more than 832π§ per round - time is on your side (important when you don't have enough in R32) if you produce less you are in risk (like your run) to fall behind the requirements.
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Post by marathon_lancer on Apr 21, 2020 18:26:59 GMT
This canβt be possible to achieve. Thereβs no way on earth you can get an amount of industry over 8000 in 36 rounds and still have so much of everything else. Even with an economic general on a city. You receive absolutely no help from any allies (literally no general moves from their starting position when I play) I face all the enemies alone. There isnβt a way to get that many resources while still having to build and supply so many troops in order to win. The Russians are the only ones who moved one troop and Bagration goes right at Warsaw and fails. Do I have to do a certain thing in order for my allies to move?
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Apr 21, 2020 18:48:01 GMT
This canβt be possible to achieve. Thereβs no way on earth you can get an amount of industry over 8000 in 36 rounds and still have so much of everything else. Even with an economic general on a city. You receive absolutely no help from any allies (literally no general moves from their starting position when I play) I face all the enemies alone. There isnβt a way to get that many resources while still having to build and supply so many troops in order to win. The Russians are the only ones who moved one troop and Bagration goes right at Warsaw and fails. Do I have to do a certain thing in order for my allies to move? There nice and even New guides here how to win HRE - build just the troops you need! Although I built two Armadas of Frigates and armored cars for my cavalry gens but food consumption never reaches 500 If you go for a eco-run you even will upgrade much longer and without need to rush the last moop up can be done without massive troop spam - there will be soon more guides I'm sure.
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Post by Darth Vader on Apr 21, 2020 19:02:13 GMT
That's impressive, what I do is just up my economy and take out the weakest nations then move on the strongest.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Apr 21, 2020 19:17:50 GMT
That's impressive, what I do is just up my economy and take out the weakest nations then move on the strongest. I do it the other way around - first I take out Β‘as quick as possible! the strongholds with fresh and strong troups - later I care about small problems.
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Post by Darth Vader on Apr 21, 2020 19:19:42 GMT
That's impressive, what I do is just up my economy and take out the weakest nations then move on the strongest. I do it the other way around - first I take out Β‘as quick as possible! the strongholds with fresh and strong troups - later I care about small problems. The force must be with you then!
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Apr 21, 2020 19:33:45 GMT
Consider this as a basic tactics:
First strong targets - then the rest.
If you want an easy campaign - just go for the objectives - don't care about the rest (literary)
Every single point a week enemy takes out of your troop will be hardly missed if you have to fight later a strong enemy.
You have to lower first the strongest unit as this one will cause the most damage to your troops.
When you're fighting without generals this hint is even more valuable.
Try it!
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Post by Marshal Forwards on Apr 21, 2020 20:10:50 GMT
This canβt be possible to achieve. Thereβs no way on earth you can get an amount of industry over 8000 in 36 rounds and still have so much of everything else. Even with an economic general on a city. You receive absolutely no help from any allies (literally no general moves from their starting position when I play) I face all the enemies alone. There isnβt a way to get that many resources while still having to build and supply so many troops in order to win. The Russians are the only ones who moved one troop and Bagration goes right at Warsaw and fails. Do I have to do a certain thing in order for my allies to move? marathon_lancer, my first conquests took ages. Then I saw the running-for-Lan-guides and also thought Iβll never be able to copy that. Nevertheless itβs possible and you can do it, too. Most of us are no genius, but thereβre good guides. My highest respect for guys like Kanue, who found a way, just by try and error, and shared it. You donβt need 8000 metal and you donβt need a 5*trader. In my real conquest i needed my 3 generals at the front like everybody else. What ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ, did and I try to reproduce is taking the final safe of ~round 30 and just let the game run and trade. So the game is almost finished, except one final enemy unit. Except a bit of food thereβs no more consumption, all income adds to the snowball effect that started ~round 22, when I stopped to upgrade buildings. The units I needed to defeat all enemies were deployed before. The allies are never a big help. You can be happy when Russia, Sweden, GB and Portugal bound some enemy forces until you are strong enough to defeat them. Here you can read what worked for me. It includes the guides my run was based on and some additional tipps. For example how I used gold. Maybe it helps.
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Post by marathon_lancer on Apr 21, 2020 23:37:54 GMT
This canβt be possible to achieve. Thereβs no way on earth you can get an amount of industry over 8000 in 36 rounds and still have so much of everything else. Even with an economic general on a city. You receive absolutely no help from any allies (literally no general moves from their starting position when I play) I face all the enemies alone. There isnβt a way to get that many resources while still having to build and supply so many troops in order to win. The Russians are the only ones who moved one troop and Bagration goes right at Warsaw and fails. Do I have to do a certain thing in order for my allies to move? marathon_lancer, my first conquests took ages. Then I saw the running-for-Lan-guides and also thought Iβll never be able to copy that. Nevertheless itβs possible and you can do it, too. Most of us are no genius, but thereβre good guides. My highest respect for guys like Kanue, who found a way, just by try and error, and shared it.Β You donβt need 8000 metal and you donβt need a 5*trader. In my real conquest i needed my 3 generals at the front like everybody else. What Β ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ, did and I try to reproduce is taking the final safe of ~round 30 and just let the game run and trade. So the game is almost finished, except one final enemy unit. Except a bit of food thereβs no more consumption, all income adds to the snowball effect that started ~round 22, when I stopped to upgrade buildings. The units I needed to defeat all enemies were deployed before.Β The allies are never a big help. You can be happy when Russia, Sweden, GB and Portugal bound some enemy forces until you are strong enough to defeat them.Β HereΒ you can read what worked for me. It includes the guides my run was based on and some additional tipps. For example how I used gold. Maybe it helps.Β Iβll look into the guide, thank you. Another thing, why do people say they use a snare drum, but they only used non-infantry generals? Does the drum work for all unit types?
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Apr 22, 2020 1:28:29 GMT
Iβll look into the guide, thank you. Another thing, why do people say they use a snare drum, but they only used non-infantry generals? Does the drum work for all unit types? On inf gens with Mass Fire, this skill automatically grants them an effect Snare Drum provides when such inf gens are deployed on inf units. Snare Drums are ysed on gens that specialise in another field as there are no equivalent skills for other units.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 19, 2020 13:07:11 GMT
My shorthand to calculate European years: HRE1798, Round 31, 9999π°, 9999π, β₯235β campaign 3*π§ + 228 997 280
Β Β Β =Β yearsΒ Europe
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Post by littlecorporal on Jul 20, 2020 4:33:30 GMT
Can Victoria only be won in 1798 HRE? Has anyone got her on a different conquest?
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 20, 2020 9:13:05 GMT
Can Victoria only be won in 1798 HRE? Has anyone got her on a different conquest? This is the final question: Where is the HRE alternative? I haven't found one (until now) - and I never read anybody getting even 800 years Europe from another conquest. My last try was Austria 1809. This ended up shocking fast!!! I finished it twice in in R34 - with luck and a guide a high skilled player may arrive in R31 - But: there is Β‘NO chance! to get enough resources for Victoria in time with AU09. We are still searching - For now: HRE98 is the only known conquest that can give Victoria.- until now ... the game is still amazingly undiscovered
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