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Post by Svetozar Boroević von Bojna on May 8, 2020 12:51:25 GMT
Base StatsViscount *. (Max Title Prince) Lieutenant Colonel General Ability: 24 (+6% DMG) Artillery Ability: 40 (+10% DMG) HP Bonus: +50% Defense Bonus: +24% SkillsArtillery Expert: Increase Crit chance by 6% when commanding Artillery(Lv1) Explosives: 20% to ignore Bunkers(Lv1) Artillery Commander: +7% Attack to Artillery in nearby 1 grid (Lv2) Price: 17200 Coins
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Post by Svetozar Boroević von Bojna on May 8, 2020 12:52:17 GMT
Mediocre Artillery and better than Milne. Could be used in Serbian History Mode.
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Post by Jeanne d'Arc on May 8, 2020 13:09:29 GMT
The guy Paulus really likes.
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Post by Svetozar Boroević von Bojna on May 8, 2020 13:25:46 GMT
The guy Paulus really likes. Really?
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Post by Jeanne d'Arc on May 8, 2020 14:02:33 GMT
The guy Paulus really likes. Really? Have you SEEN his guide recently?
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 8, 2020 14:18:26 GMT
Mediocre Artillery and better than Milne. Could be used in Serbian History Mode. Yes, but he can reach prince rank. Milhne would have been great if he could. He is one of the best starting generals in the game. If you invest a few textbooks, he will be a permanent keep. Awesome
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Post by SolidLight on May 8, 2020 16:44:11 GMT
Mediocre Artillery and better than Milne. Could be used in Serbian History Mode. Yes, but he can reach prince rank. Milhne would have been great if he could. He is one of the best starting generals in the game. If you invest a few textbooks, he will be a permanent keep. Awesome Not sure if you're joking or not. The medal economy in 1914 seems completely out of control. I mean I have something like 500k gold and 1.2k medals. And I'm loaded with every general I could possibly want. 2 pages of my general list is filled with gold people. So I don't see the value of cheap starter generals outside of History mode. Now as for him as a starter general, he seems ok, just because he's an artillery general and that's the only category that you actually need to invest in early (screw Selivanov). I'd still get Horne if I'm considering minimum investment since his skills are just better overall. The only thing Putnik has on Horne skillwise is the aura, but the aura actually sucks in the earlygame since it runs on your base attack and your base attack sucks at the start. You're looking at +7% (cumulative with BA and AA stats) to 55 atk light artillery at the start of the game: +3 atk. Terrible. Even lv 5 aura sucks. You get more damage from salvo and storm fortifications AND those skills ignore defense. And furthermore, I wouldn't actually keep Horne. Even if you don't have Ludendorff you should still be able to get atleast 2 or 3 of the gold artillery with medals to spare. And you totally don't need any more artillery generals than that.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 8, 2020 17:19:01 GMT
Yes, but he can reach prince rank. Milhne would have been great if he could. He is one of the best starting generals in the game. If you invest a few textbooks, he will be a permanent keep. Awesome Not sure if you're joking or not. The medal economy in 1914 seems completely out of control. I mean I have something like 500k gold and 1.2k medals. And I'm loaded with every general I could possibly want. 2 pages of my general list is filled with gold people. So I don't see the value of cheap starter generals outside of History mode. Now as for him as a starter general, he seems ok, just because he's an artillery general and that's the only category that you actually need to invest in early (screw Selivanov). I'd still get Horne if I'm considering minimum investment since his skills are just better overall. The only thing Putnik has on Horne skillwise is the aura, but the aura actually sucks in the earlygame since it runs on your base attack and your base attack sucks at the start. You're looking at +7% (cumulative with BA and AA stats) to 55 atk light artillery at the start of the game: +3 atk. Terrible. Even lv 5 aura sucks. You get more damage from salvo and storm fortifications AND those skills ignore defense. And furthermore, I wouldn't actually keep Horne. Even if you don't have Ludendorff you should still be able to get atleast 2 or 3 of the gold artillery with medals to spare. And you totally don't need any more artillery generals than that. I agree about the medals. You will have more than you need, especially with foch and ludendorf. Well you have to give putnik salvo + jungle to make him pretty good. Afterwards, you can keep him even after you have ivanov and besseler, far away the best artillery generals in the game. That way, you can have the aura on a mediocre general instead of sacrificing artillery expert on besseler or jungle fighting on ivanov. Imo horne is ok. There is no reason to buy horne over vazov as vazov is way better. As for putnik, he sucks starting out I agree. But with some textbooks he can be quite great. In terms of price performance, I feel he is one of a kind as Below, is the other cheapest general of above prince rank. Who is just not good enough for end game. Fine, purple is too much. However blue makes sense to me. I still feel as though he can be pretty useful later on.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 8, 2020 17:20:06 GMT
Having Putnik + Vazov starting out will be an overpowered combination at the start
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 8, 2020 17:25:38 GMT
I’ll change putnik to blue later after my finals. Imo he is far better than Horne is storm fortifications and cover are meh imo for artillery. Later on, hindenberg and radko dimitriev are way better options for aura generals. So really, vazov is really really good as a starting general. As for if putnik is up to par, I’ll have reanalyze. He can definitely be useful as he is needed for history mode too.
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Post by SolidLight on May 8, 2020 19:23:22 GMT
I’ll change putnik to blue later after my finals. Imo he is far better than Horne is storm fortifications and cover are meh imo for artillery. Later on, hindenberg and radko dimitriev are way better options for aura generals. So really, vazov is really really good as a starting general. As for if putnik is up to par, I’ll have reanalyze. He can definitely be useful as he is needed for history mode too. The issue with Putnik and Vazov as starter generals is that some of their damage boosts are percentage based, which isn't good because your base attack is really low at the start. Hornes two damage skills are just raw damage, and they're not affected by defense either (though early game defense isn't that huge, so this isn't a big deal). Furthermore Forest ignoring movement penalties doesn't help you that much when you move like 2 spaces per turn anyway. However, if you're thinking long term, I'll concede is that Putnik is better. Only because he has a use in History Mode whereas Horne doesn't (I think). That mode is the only reason why we need more than 12 or so generals. But at the start Horne is better for sure. Also good luck to you on your finals! I really need to get back to work myself too...
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 8, 2020 20:13:15 GMT
I’ll change putnik to blue later after my finals. Imo he is far better than Horne is storm fortifications and cover are meh imo for artillery. Later on, hindenberg and radko dimitriev are way better options for aura generals. So really, vazov is really really good as a starting general. As for if putnik is up to par, I’ll have reanalyze. He can definitely be useful as he is needed for history mode too. The issue with Putnik and Vazov as starter generals is that some of their damage boosts are percentage based, which isn't good because your base attack is really low at the start. Hornes two damage skills are just raw damage, and they're not affected by defense either (though early game defense isn't that huge, so this isn't a big deal). Furthermore Forest ignoring movement penalties doesn't help you that much when you move like 2 spaces per turn anyway. However, if you're thinking long term, I'll concede is that Putnik is better. Only because he has a use in History Mode whereas Horne doesn't (I think). That mode is the only reason why we need more than 12 or so generals. But at the start Horne is better for sure. Also good luck to you on your finals! I really need to get back to work myself too... Thanks. Imo jungle fighting is amazing even before you bring movement into the equation. Its very common and adds a lot of damage. I do agree with percentage based. But imo vazov has 3 good skills whereas horne lacks the essential jf. You could give Vazov artillery expert and be done with him. He’ll be a very powerful general with fantastic output. Putnik can be used to boost vazov and as well as deal some nice damage on his own.
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Post by bertholdt838 on May 8, 2020 20:49:47 GMT
Underrated general, i would rather rate 4 but i give him 5 star for his performance irl
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Post by Gone on May 10, 2020 19:50:28 GMT
This guy with the best Artillery items is Hötzendorf without these items. Nuff said.
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Post by Gone on May 10, 2020 19:53:20 GMT
He is sadly too weak to be one of these generals that help you a lot throughout the main game and that are also very useful in History Mode.
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