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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 2, 2020 17:02:06 GMT
I did something different from the Artillery Tier list this time. This time, instead of using 100% subjective opinions, I used a point system as follows: +1 point: - Tank stars - Empty skill slots - Skills: Plain fighting, Panzer Leader, Blitzkrieg, Armoured Assault, Rumour +0.5 points: - Mobility stars - Average rating (on this forum) - Terrain boosts (not plain fighting or mountain fighting), Tide of Iron, Machinist, Explosives +0.25 points: - Crossfire, Cover, Mountain Fighting, The weird XP skill - Potential stars (that you have to buy) minus 1 point: - Cost: (/500 medals for Gold, /400 medals for Silver, /300 medals for Bronze) Tier separations are as follows: S tier: 14+ points A: 12 - 13.9 B: 10 - 11.9 C: 8 - 9.9 D: 6.5 - 7.9 E: 6 - 6.5 F: 4 - 5.9 Note: These ratings are for tank abilities only. Konev would be in negative tier or something. If there's any point adjustments you want me to do, pls reply below. *Next up, infantry (due later this week) and navy (this weekend probably) |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 2, 2020 17:10:50 GMT
I did something different from the Artillery Tier list this time. This time, instead of using 100% subjective opinions, I used a point system as follows: +1 point: - Tank stars - Empty skill slots - Skills: Plain fighting, Panzer Leader, Blitzkrieg, Armoured Assault, Rumour +0.5 points: - Mobility stars - Average rating (on this forum) - Terrain boosts (not plain fighting or mountain fighting), Tide of Iron, Machinist, Explosives +0.25 points: - Crossfire, Cover, Mountain Fighting, The weird XP skill - Potential stars (that you have to buy) minus 1 point: - Cost: (/500 medals for Gold, /400 medals for Silver, /300 medals for Bronze) Tier separations are as follows: S tier: 14+ points A: 12 - 13.9 B: 10 - 11.9 C: 8 - 9.9 D: 6.5 - 7.9 E: 6 - 6.5 F: 4 - 5.9 Note: These ratings are for tank abilities only. Konev would be in negative tier or something. If there's any point adjustments you want me to do, pls reply below. *Next up, infantry (due later this week) and navy (this weekend probably) This looks great. But few things. Move Rommel to A, move Graziani to B, exchange Timoshenko & Sun with Monty & Patton, move Leeb to E, and move Yamashita to F. Nice job! |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 2, 2020 17:14:45 GMT
This looks great. But few things. Move Rommel to A, move Graziani to B, exchange Timoshenko & Sun with Monty & Patton, move Leeb to E, and move Yamashita to F. Nice job! BUT BUt the PoinT SyStEM JK I'll adjust it. Thanks for the suggestions. It's probably all those 4-star ratings that got Sun L R and Timoshenko up to tier B |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 2, 2020 17:17:11 GMT
This looks great. But few things. Move Rommel to A, move Graziani to B, exchange Timoshenko & Sun with Monty & Patton, move Leeb to E, and move Yamashita to F. Nice job! BUT BUt the PoinT SyStEM JK I'll adjust it. Thanks for the suggestions. It's probably all those 4-star ratings that got Sun L R and Timoshenko up to tier B I know bro the point system makes some of the best generals trash in the list. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 2, 2020 17:19:21 GMT
BUT BUt the PoinT SyStEM JK I'll adjust it. Thanks for the suggestions. It's probably all those 4-star ratings that got Sun L R and Timoshenko up to tier B I know bro the point system makes some of the best generals trash in the list. Yeah I'll toss the ratings in the trash. Screw all those 2-star Graziani ratings. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 2, 2020 17:48:17 GMT
This looks great. But few things. Move Rommel to A, move Graziani to B, exchange Timoshenko & Sun with Monty & Patton, move Leeb to E, and move Yamashita to F. Nice job! Sir I tried everything to help Graziani but I can't get him above C tier. Everything else went smoothly. |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 2, 2020 19:12:27 GMT
This looks great. But few things. Move Rommel to A, move Graziani to B, exchange Timoshenko & Sun with Monty & Patton, move Leeb to E, and move Yamashita to F. Nice job! Sir I tried everything to help Graziani but I can't get him above C tier. Everything else went smoothly. I'll explain Graziani. So first, is his machinist skill. This skill at max allows the unit to heal 30 hp per round which definitely guarantees his survivability. Second, his ace forces allow him to level up quickly. Third, his mountain fighting allows him to do more damage than Rokossovsky and Vatutin. The 2 skills you should add to him r armored assault and blitzkrieg/rumor. With some investments, Graziani will be an amazing general. When I was deciding who to get as my 4th panzer, I compared Vatutin and Graziani. What I found was Vatutin died very fast. The skill you should give Vatutin is either Blitzkrieg or armored assault. If you give him aa, he will do high damage but he will die super fast. If you give him Blitzkrieg, he will survive better but his damage won't be high enough. This is why Graziani is much better than how he's rated. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 3, 2020 9:07:05 GMT
^^ two advocates, sun lr and tristanknight
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 3, 2020 18:28:46 GMT
^^ two advocates, sun lr and tristanknight haha yessir. But Graziani does actually perform well when I test him out against other generals. |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Jun 4, 2020 8:40:01 GMT
I did something different from the Artillery Tier list this time. This time, instead of using 100% subjective opinions, I used a point system as follows: +1 point: - Tank stars - Empty skill slots - Skills: Plain fighting, Panzer Leader, Blitzkrieg, Armoured Assault, Rumour +0.5 points: - Mobility stars - Average rating (on this forum) - Terrain boosts (not plain fighting or mountain fighting), Tide of Iron, Machinist, Explosives +0.25 points: - Crossfire, Cover, Mountain Fighting, The weird XP skill - Potential stars (that you have to buy) minus 1 point: - Cost: (/500 medals for Gold, /400 medals for Silver, /300 medals for Bronze) Tier separations are as follows: S tier: 14+ points A: 12 - 13.9 B: 10 - 11.9 C: 8 - 9.9 D: 6.5 - 7.9 E: 6 - 6.5 F: 4 - 5.9 Note: These ratings are for tank abilities only. Konev would be in negative tier or something. If there's any point adjustments you want me to do, pls reply below. *Next up, infantry (due later this week) and navy (this weekend probably) This is extremely biased. One empty skill slot means A LOT, not just one point. Anyone from a higher tier is better than anyone from a lower tier (with the exception of IAP gens and Messe), but please compare apple to apples, tank to tanks, Rundstedt and MacArthur is definitely not a tank gen (well, you can make them one, but wouldn't perform well). Here's my PROVEN list: 1. Guderian 2. Rommel 3. Graziani 4. Rokossovsky 5. Montgomery 6. Patton 7-10. (Not in order): Manstein, Vatutin, Timoshenko, Sun L.R 11. Chuikov 12. Messe 13-16. (Not in order): Model, Bradley, Leclerc, Bock 17. Auchinleck You can't give rumor to Manstein which hurts him badly. This system is extremely biased because it gives only 1 point for an empty skill slot which makes an armored assault or rumor equal to +2 mobility or 1 tank star. Prove my list wrong and we'll have a discussion. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 4, 2020 8:48:02 GMT
Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC, just saying these are forum opinions, as augustfirstarmy had earlier explained. They represent the majority of forum discussions and opinions among the member base
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 4, 2020 8:49:23 GMT
I believe this is the old list too
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 4, 2020 14:33:10 GMT
Yeah this list is extremely outdated
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