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Post by Mr. Beast on Jul 9, 2020 2:15:17 GMT
So, I tested my generals to see if crowd tactics/wolfpack buffs the general itself. And the conclusion was, it did benefit the general also. The same general with crowd tactics did more damage.
I'm not sure if I'm right or wrong though. So could someone else also verify this?
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Post by Darth Vader on Jul 9, 2020 4:07:18 GMT
So, I tested my generals to see if crowd tactics/wolfpack buffs the general itself. And the conclusion was, it did benefit the general also. The same general with crowd tactics did more damage. I'm not sure if I'm right or wrong though. So could someone else also verify this? Probably just Lucky chance. It says add attack to units or navy and it could have probably just it's allied units doing more damage to your enemy. It could be possible, I may check into it. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 9, 2020 15:55:09 GMT
Alright bois it's time for me to sacrifice 500 medals just to make a graph.
Generals used: Konev, Rommel, and Nimitz
Check on me later.
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jul 9, 2020 23:37:36 GMT
Alright bois it's time for me to sacrifice 500 medals just to make a graph. Generals used: Konev, Rommel, and Nimitz Check on me later. make sure you cloud save. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 10, 2020 15:14:07 GMT
Alright bois it's time for me to sacrifice 500 medals just to make a graph. Generals used: Konev, Rommel, and Nimitz Check on me later. make sure you cloud save. I'm gonna start today, cause my last cloud save was about three days ago. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 11, 2020 15:04:18 GMT
So far, after experimenting with and without level 1 crowd tactics on Leeb, there wasn't really an impact on his damage output.
I repeatedly put Leeb on a light infantry and let him attack the armoured car closest to the player's starting city in Blitzkrieg easy.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 13, 2020 14:29:03 GMT
So I finally did a 1950 conquest after a long hiatus, so I have about 1400 medals. I'm gonna put level 5 crowd tactics on Leeb and see if it does anything.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jul 14, 2020 11:03:21 GMT
So I finally did a 1950 conquest after a long hiatus, so I have about 1400 medals. I'm gonna put level 5 crowd tactics on Leeb and see if it does anything. Why not Konev? Can test on both inf and arty. |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Jul 14, 2020 11:59:18 GMT
Btw, crowd tactics is best on Konev. It's the best skill you can give him, and he is the best general to put crowd tactics on.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 14, 2020 14:58:37 GMT
So I finally did a 1950 conquest after a long hiatus, so I have about 1400 medals. I'm gonna put level 5 crowd tactics on Leeb and see if it does anything. Why not Konev? Can test on both inf and arty. I'll probably do a save state, put it on Leeb, and then load the save state and put it on Konev. I feel like different generals sometimes get impacted differently by RNG. Also the problem with Konev is sometimes he activates two skills at once, but you only see one skill activating, so I won't always know if the damage increase is because of Artillery leader or Crowd Tactics |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 14, 2020 19:30:27 GMT
Alright bois here's my data table: Blue: One or more units was on fire. I don't know if this affects damage outputs Red: Critical hit Each unit has 2 numbers, since I used the general for two turns per attempt. Level used: Blitzkrieg 1, easy. 
The important part of this table is the averages. Konev (infantry): No big change in average, although what's worth noting is that Konev's second attack did more damage with crowd tactics, when he was touching 2 enemies instead of one, whereas it decreased without. I'm not sure if CT directly has an effect on this tho Leeb (infantry): Same as Konev, although to a much lesser extent Konev (Artillery): Normal outputs were nearly identical, especially when attacking the bunker (2nd number for each). However, something interesting involves the critical hits (level 4 artillery leader + medal in my case), where the damage output was on average 4 points higher. Again, I'm not sure if CT has a direct effect on this Conclusion: Plausible, although not likely. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jul 15, 2020 10:31:05 GMT
Darth Nihilus, interesting data. Of course, the key thing about CT is ultimately how much additional dmg your allies within range can inflict. It seems like a EW6 Aura that dkesn't buff the gen.
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Post by jonblend on Jul 23, 2020 23:06:33 GMT
With the given sample size the +4 on crits you noticed could still be within the statistical variation. And since a +20 improvement on average damage was to be hoped for we can quite clearly say that crowd tactics doesn't boost the general himself.
Still, thanks for nailing down this question :-)
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