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Post by SolidLight on Aug 25, 2020 11:43:36 GMT
And Shizuka is about as costly as Xochitl and Ocllo. Possibly even more since Tokyo costs a truckload of resources and money IIRC. I don’t see why among those three you would go for Shizuka first. Ocllo is clearly the most important one. If Shizuka really is just as costly, then we don't have much choice in the way of strategic investments. I haven't build Tokyo yet so I assumed that Shizuka was cheaper. Well, we do have to make a choice since all the final princesses unlock roughly at the same time and costs a massive amount of resources. It’s just that the choice is trivial since Ocllos literature boost is clearly the most important one to get first. What we really need to optimize princess rushing is a chart or something with when we unlock the cities that has the princesses and how much those costs to build. We want Isabela, Nefertari, Borte and Ocllo ASAP, but we also want all the other ones without impeding the progress toward unlocking the key princesses.
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Post by Iron Duke on Aug 25, 2020 12:44:44 GMT
If Shizuka really is just as costly, then we don't have much choice in the way of strategic investments. I haven't build Tokyo yet so I assumed that Shizuka was cheaper. Well, we do have to make a choice since all the final princesses unlock roughly at the same time and costs a massive amount of resources. It’s just that the choice is trivial since Ocllos literature boost is clearly the most important one to get first. What we really need to optimize princess rushing is a chart or something with when we unlock the cities that has the princesses and how much those costs to build. We want Isabela, Nefertari, Borte and Ocllo ASAP, but we also want all the other ones without impeding the progress toward unlocking the key princesses. We have the building costs already here and I'll add the info to my spreadsheet sometime. I think there are too many variables to come up with a definitive strategy i.e. how often you play inc. daily missions, invasions etc and your speed of progress, but we can probably get a pretty good idea if we make certain assumptions. We do need a lot of diamonds later on so Shizuka's reward does have some value, if you can get her early enough, and to that end we should probably rank Kate 5th in importance after the 4 mentioned above.
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Post by SolidLight on Aug 25, 2020 15:11:25 GMT
Well, we do have to make a choice since all the final princesses unlock roughly at the same time and costs a massive amount of resources. It’s just that the choice is trivial since Ocllos literature boost is clearly the most important one to get first. What we really need to optimize princess rushing is a chart or something with when we unlock the cities that has the princesses and how much those costs to build. We want Isabela, Nefertari, Borte and Ocllo ASAP, but we also want all the other ones without impeding the progress toward unlocking the key princesses. We have the building costs already here and I'll add the info to my spreadsheet sometime. I think there are too many variables to come up with a definitive strategy i.e. how often you play inc. daily missions, invasions etc and your speed of progress, but we can probably get a pretty good idea if we make certain assumptions. We do need a lot of diamonds later on so Shizuka's reward does have some value, if you can get her early enough, and to that end we should probably rank Kate 5th in importance after the 4 mentioned above. Right, that’s a useful chart. We need to know at what lv you unlock those buildings though. That way one can vaguely know when it’s time to save for a princess city. Shizuka shouldn’t be gotten early though since Ocllo takes priority. I agree that Kate is probably the 5th most valueable princess.
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Post by stoic on Aug 25, 2020 16:58:22 GMT
Does anyone remember where exactly can be found literature in Gunpowder age campaigns and how many?
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Post by Iron Duke on Aug 25, 2020 19:54:02 GMT
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Post by stoic on Aug 26, 2020 4:25:44 GMT
Yeah, different years - same questions Not fun getting old
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Post by Iron Duke on Aug 28, 2020 12:34:02 GMT
Well, we do have to make a choice since all the final princesses unlock roughly at the same time and costs a massive amount of resources. It’s just that the choice is trivial since Ocllos literature boost is clearly the most important one to get first. What we really need to optimize princess rushing is a chart or something with when we unlock the cities that has the princesses and how much those costs to build. We want Isabela, Nefertari, Borte and Ocllo ASAP, but we also want all the other ones without impeding the progress toward unlocking the key princesses. We have the building costs already here and I'll add the info to my spreadsheet sometime. I think there are too many variables to come up with a definitive strategy i.e. how often you play inc. daily missions, invasions etc and your speed of progress, but we can probably get a pretty good idea if we make certain assumptions. We do need a lot of diamonds later on so Shizuka's reward does have some value, if you can get her early enough, and to that end we should probably rank Kate 5th in importance after the 4 mentioned above. Ok I've added the info from the Overview thread to the spreadsheet but there's some missing info, let me know if you can fill in the blanks or spot any mistakes and I'll update it.
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Post by muhammadpasha on Oct 1, 2020 8:01:07 GMT
Having found myself c200 literature short of being ready to upgrade to Discovery Age and wishing I'd built Cairo sooner, it occurred to me that it makes sense to rethink the order in which princesses are prioritised based on their daily rewards. I don't know if a single optimal strategy exists and life's too short to try and find out, and of course we're limited to a degree by the order in which the cities become available, but wherever there's a choice to be made over which city to build or princess to woo first then it absolutely makes sense to prioritise based on medals first, then literature second. I'd say diamond next, then ivory, china, gold, perfume, & pearl (based on nothing more than intuition!). Of course we must still bear in mind their contributions to the actual game-play so daily rewards is certainly not the only consideration, but I'd definitely put medals & literature above all else. Anyway, here's the full list and I've added a separate tab for them to this spreadsheet.Maria 10000 Gold Jenny 20 Pearl Elizabeth 20 Perfume Isabella 20 Medal Sophia 20 China Julia 20 Ivory Kate 20 Diamond Anna 20 Artwork Fatima 30000 Gold Nefertari 10 Literature Ayla 30 Pearl Indira 30 Perfume Li 30 China Young-hee 30 Ivory Borte 30 Medal Shizuka 30 Diamond Xochitl 30 Artwork Oclio 20 Literature Edit: a visual presentation can be found here Princess GalleryI was playing the old old version yhis is why i didn't have things like this
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Post by Iron Duke on Feb 19, 2021 13:46:43 GMT
Having found myself c200 literature short of being ready to upgrade to Discovery Age and wishing I'd built Cairo sooner, it occurred to me that it makes sense to rethink the order in which princesses are prioritised based on their daily rewards. I don't know if a single optimal strategy exists and life's too short to try and find out, and of course we're limited to a degree by the order in which the cities become available, but wherever there's a choice to be made over which city to build or princess to woo first then it absolutely makes sense to prioritise based on medals first, then literature second. I'd say diamond next, then ivory, china, gold, perfume, & pearl (based on nothing more than intuition!). Of course we must still bear in mind their contributions to the actual game-play so daily rewards is certainly not the only consideration, but I'd definitely put medals & literature above all else. I've now added a few columns for availability, priority and build order - this was taken from my current game. It's pretty close to being spot on imo, but there are a couple in yellow which may be better done differently: Shizoka - by the time she was obtained the Diamonds weren't needed so Young-hee may be a higher priority for her healing Elizabeth - there was a short period early on when more Perfume was needed for wooing other princesses, however once I had the 1st Nordic Trial available this problem was solved
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Post by Iron Duke on Feb 25, 2021 11:56:31 GMT
Having found myself c200 literature short of being ready to upgrade to Discovery Age and wishing I'd built Cairo sooner, it occurred to me that it makes sense to rethink the order in which princesses are prioritised based on their daily rewards. I don't know if a single optimal strategy exists and life's too short to try and find out, and of course we're limited to a degree by the order in which the cities become available, but wherever there's a choice to be made over which city to build or princess to woo first then it absolutely makes sense to prioritise based on medals first, then literature second. I'd say diamond next, then ivory, china, gold, perfume, & pearl (based on nothing more than intuition!). Of course we must still bear in mind their contributions to the actual game-play so daily rewards is certainly not the only consideration, but I'd definitely put medals & literature above all else. I've now added a few columns for availability, priority and build order - this was taken from my current game. It's pretty close to being spot on imo, but there are a couple in yellow which may be better done differently: Shizoka - by the time she was obtained the Diamonds weren't needed so Young-hee may be a higher priority for her healing Elizabeth - there was a short period early on when more Perfume was needed for wooing other princesses, however once I had the 1st Nordic Trial available this problem was solved There's a new link for the spreadsheet btw, I've updated it in the OP but here it is as well: link
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Post by Iron Duke on Aug 21, 2021 7:59:45 GMT
Pro tip: A princess is at 98% and the next chance to woo her isn't until the next day so you'll miss out on her daily reward. Not so fast! Before you log into the game on the next day: disconnect from the internet > open the game and collect the princess > close the game and reconnect to internet > open the game again. Et voila! You now get her daily reward for that day
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Post by mayankshadow on Aug 21, 2021 9:39:09 GMT
Looks like all the fun ended before i came so does someone still require some info or all is set
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Post by prebenh on Dec 1, 2022 6:30:15 GMT
This thread and the spreadsheet is great. But I believe there has been added new princesses since then. Is there another thread continuing this topic? I'm wondering which princesses to prioritize after the ones described here. Thanks.
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Post by jonblend on Dec 1, 2022 19:20:41 GMT
It's still the same (amount of) princesses. But I can't open the spreadsheet so no idea about the priorities.
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Post by visiel on Dec 1, 2022 20:09:33 GMT
There is no new princess. They added princess trail (Which are like unit trail, but are slightly easier; however, they required you to upgrade several useless gen that you won't likely use outside the trail). So you can still use the priority listed in the spreadsheet in page 1. Each player's progress is different, so if you feel you want to not follow the build order at any point, it's totally fine.
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