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Post by pz2020 on Aug 24, 2020 11:54:30 GMT
Fried rice, I already have machine at on Konev 11hp and Guderian 9hp.
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Aug 24, 2020 14:41:15 GMT
I still do not understand the love for Graziani, so my vote is still Rokkosovsky. Both need armored assault, but Graziani needs panzer leader, which Rokk already has, so Rokk can have explosives (for conquests) or rumor AND he has better mobility. It’s an easy choice for me, but other outstanding forum members disagree Because you've never had him. I have both Rokko and Graziani and Graziani seems on par with Roommel, leaving Rokko behind. Machinist allows him to heal 300 hp within 20 rounds or 380 when medal is equipped.
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Post by pz2020 on Aug 24, 2020 14:42:36 GMT
Agreed. I share the experience because my Konev and Gud will heal like crazy especially after it gets to lvl 5. For now tho I need to upgrade blitz on Vatu.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Aug 24, 2020 15:18:04 GMT
Agreed. I share the experience because my Konev and Gud will heal like crazy especially after it gets to lvl 5. For now tho I need to upgrade blitz on Vatu. Bro, I can argue that Graziani and Guderian with machinist might be a good idea, but absolutely not Konev. Artillery literally gets two-shot by good generals, so what's the point of healing 15 hp (cause you only get one machinist medal) if you're gonna take upwards of 80 damage per unit? And keep in mind I said per unit, not per turn.
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Post by pz2020 on Aug 24, 2020 15:28:50 GMT
Then what should I put?
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Post by pz2020 on Aug 24, 2020 15:29:49 GMT
Also, Novikov only causes ~50 dmg in between turns anyway.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Aug 24, 2020 15:49:15 GMT
For Konev, rumour + either plain fighting or crowd tactics.
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Post by pz2020 on Aug 24, 2020 16:03:33 GMT
Why?
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Post by pz2020 on Aug 24, 2020 16:09:38 GMT
Roko was in the lead but Graziani is making a comeback! I’m the commentator. Call me Mr. Commentator. Have a nice day/night!
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Post by Mr. Beast on Aug 24, 2020 17:23:24 GMT
I got Vatutin and put blitz on him. It’s lvl 1 now bc im short on medals Vatutin? With blitzkrieg, his output is so low tho.
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Post by Mr. Beast on Aug 24, 2020 17:27:07 GMT
Cuz plain fighting allows for insane damage. And Graziani is little better than Roko cuz he has machinist and mt fighting compared to panzer leader and toi
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 24, 2020 19:08:17 GMT
Agreed. I share the experience because my Konev and Gud will heal like crazy especially after it gets to lvl 5. For now tho I need to upgrade blitz on Vatu. Bro, I can argue that Graziani and Guderian with machinist might be a good idea, but absolutely not Konev. Artillery literally gets two-shot by good generals, so what's the point of healing 15 hp (cause you only get one machinist medal) if you're gonna take upwards of 80 damage per unit? And keep in mind I said per unit, not per turn. It’s not really worth it at all imo. Campaigns are the hardest part of wc4, and in them, mechanist will barely make a difference.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 24, 2020 19:09:17 GMT
I got Vatutin and put blitz on him. It’s lvl 1 now bc im short on medals Vatutin? With blitzkrieg, his output is so low tho. Remove blitz and give him aa. He’ll deal massive damage with the right medals.
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Post by pz2020 on Aug 24, 2020 19:34:41 GMT
Sure
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Aug 24, 2020 19:36:28 GMT
I got Vatutin and put blitz on him. It’s lvl 1 now bc im short on medals Vatutin? With blitzkrieg, his output is so low tho. Eh... I mean, I did pretty well with lvl 3 plain fighting and level 2 blitz on him, but that's probably not the ideal setup. pz2020, just ensure you don't spend too many medals upgrading him, just adding a level 2-3 fourth skill is sufficient, cause you're supposed to sell him later on.
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