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Post by stoic on Nov 29, 2020 14:07:19 GMT
Btw, there are also Indian heavy tanks So, I think India will be a part of future updates.
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Post by truhses on Nov 29, 2020 17:26:12 GMT
Btw, there are also Indian heavy tanks So, I think India will be a part of future updates. This is an American M6 heavy tank. I rode from Rokki to kv6 in the Kursk battle. Impressive my poor Monty is also not bad at kv6, but this is a pale copy.
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Post by stoic on Nov 29, 2020 17:35:59 GMT
Btw, there are also Indian heavy tanks So, I think India will be a part of future updates. This is an American M6 heavy tank. I rode from Rokki to kv6 in the Kursk battle. Impressive my poor Monty is also not bad at kv6, but this is a pale copy. Well may be But American tanks in this game are looking like that
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Post by glaucon on Nov 29, 2020 18:50:19 GMT
I want to make sure I have my math right on some of these commanders: Patton's dmg is +20 base, +30% against special units, +3 mobil Monty +20 base, +2 mobil Rokossovsky +15 base, +24% against armor, +2 mobil Vatutin is +32 base, +12% against armor, +0 mobil Timoshenko +21 base, +6 in snow, +1 mobil
I opened Battle of Kursk and looked at the reinforcements for these numbers (My Kv-6 is at lvl II; +10 att, +2 mobility):
A heavy w/KV-6 runs 53-63 dmg; Patton= 73-83; 94-107 vs special Monty= 73-83 Rossy= 68-78; 84-96 vs armor Vatutin = 85-95; 95-106 vs armor Timo = 74-84; 80-90 in snow
Those numbers change based on terrain, exp, etc., but at least it is a baseline - I think.
So my thoughts; Timoshenko is not a bad free general. He is pretty good. He might be the weakest of these five, but I put him in here to show that the gap isn't that massive in damage output, especially in the '41 east campaign.
I would probably rank these generals as (1) Patton - high base damage, better than others on non-heavies, wrecks special units; (2)& (3) depends on how much you value speed. I think I would go Vatutin over Rossy because Vatutin's raw damage output is just that high and he gets +2 speed from the KV-6, but I get it if you need the extra movement from Rossy. (4) Monty is a poor choice on the Kv-6 compared to the rest, he either needs to sit on a factory and defend, or be a fast moving attacker and use his air skill (which is hard because air attacks cost quite a bit of money, which drains money to replenish Monty...).
Finally, Manstein is +40 damage, so 93-103 dmg; plus boosts other armor. Given his blitz skill, I would put him in a regular tank to passively boost damage from Vatutin or Rossy in a KV-6.
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Post by puchao on Nov 29, 2020 19:50:30 GMT
I want to make sure I have my math right on some of these commanders: Patton's dmg is +20 base, +30% against special units, +3 mobil Monty +20 base, +2 mobil Rokossovsky +15 base, +24% against armor, +2 mobil Vatutin is +32 base, +12% against armor, +0 mobil Timoshenko +21 base, +6 in snow, +1 mobil I opened Battle of Kursk and looked at the reinforcements for these numbers (My Kv-6 is at lvl II; +10 att, +2 mobility): A heavy w/KV-6 runs 53-63 dmg; Patton= 73-83; 94-107 vs special Monty= 73-83 Rossy= 68-78; 84-96 vs armor Vatutin = 85-95; 95-106 vs armor Timo = 74-84; 80-90 in snow Those numbers change based on terrain, exp, etc., but at least it is a baseline - I think. So my thoughts; Timoshenko is not a bad free general. He is pretty good. He might be the weakest of these five, but I put him in here to show that the gap isn't that massive in damage output, especially in the '41 east campaign. I would probably rank these generals as (1) Patton - high base damage, better than others on non-heavies, wrecks special units; (2)& (3) depends on how much you value speed. I think I would go Vatutin over Rossy because Vatutin's raw damage output is just that high and he gets +2 speed from the KV-6, but I get it if you need the extra movement from Rossy. (4) Monty is a poor choice on the Kv-6 compared to the rest, he either needs to sit on a factory and defend, or be a fast moving attacker and use his air skill (which is hard because air attacks cost quite a bit of money, which drains money to replenish Monty...). Finally, Manstein is +40 damage, so 93-103 dmg; plus boosts other armor. Given his blitz skill, I would put him in a regular tank to passively boost damage from Vatutin or Rossy in a KV-6. I have to agreed whit timoshenko, i was using him in the african campaign as my second tank gen, and he was doing really good, especially when he crits.
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Post by kanue on Nov 30, 2020 8:58:37 GMT
I want to make sure I have my math right on some of these commanders: Patton's dmg is +20 base, +30% against special units, +3 mobil Monty +20 base, +2 mobil Rokossovsky +15 base, +24% against armor, +2 mobil Vatutin is +32 base, +12% against armor, +0 mobil Timoshenko +21 base, +6 in snow, +1 mobil I opened Battle of Kursk and looked at the reinforcements for these numbers (My Kv-6 is at lvl II; +10 att, +2 mobility): A heavy w/KV-6 runs 53-63 dmg; Patton= 73-83; 94-107 vs special Monty= 73-83 Rossy= 68-78; 84-96 vs armor Vatutin = 85-95; 95-106 vs armor Timo = 74-84; 80-90 in snow Those numbers change based on terrain, exp, etc., but at least it is a baseline - I think. So my thoughts; Timoshenko is not a bad free general. He is pretty good. He might be the weakest of these five, but I put him in here to show that the gap isn't that massive in damage output, especially in the '41 east campaign. I would probably rank these generals as (1) Patton - high base damage, better than others on non-heavies, wrecks special units; (2)& (3) depends on how much you value speed. I think I would go Vatutin over Rossy because Vatutin's raw damage output is just that high and he gets +2 speed from the KV-6, but I get it if you need the extra movement from Rossy. (4) Monty is a poor choice on the Kv-6 compared to the rest, he either needs to sit on a factory and defend, or be a fast moving attacker and use his air skill (which is hard because air attacks cost quite a bit of money, which drains money to replenish Monty...). Finally, Manstein is +40 damage, so 93-103 dmg; plus boosts other armor. Given his blitz skill, I would put him in a regular tank to passively boost damage from Vatutin or Rossy in a KV-6. Based on the previous ET games, bonus damage from general's stat (e.g. 3 stars in tank) is added to the attack stat showed in the information but the flat damage from skills (e.g. Tide of Iron) is not included in the attack stat, but will be later added when the actual damage is calculated. From what I have observed so far, this kind of thing is likely to be the same in GoG3. So this means tank generals with Tide of Iron (like Vatutin) will deal more damage than the number that appears on the information sheet. And, yes, Timo is a decent tank general.
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Post by stoic on Dec 1, 2020 8:39:51 GMT
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Post by metalleater on Dec 1, 2020 14:10:11 GMT
I want to make sure I have my math right on some of these commanders: Patton's dmg is +20 base, +30% against special units, +3 mobil Monty +20 base, +2 mobil Rokossovsky +15 base, +24% against armor, +2 mobil Vatutin is +32 base, +12% against armor, +0 mobil Timoshenko +21 base, +6 in snow, +1 mobil I opened Battle of Kursk and looked at the reinforcements for these numbers (My Kv-6 is at lvl II; +10 att, +2 mobility): A heavy w/KV-6 runs 53-63 dmg; Patton= 73-83; 94-107 vs special Monty= 73-83 Rossy= 68-78; 84-96 vs armor Vatutin = 85-95; 95-106 vs armor Timo = 74-84; 80-90 in snow Those numbers change based on terrain, exp, etc., but at least it is a baseline - I think. So my thoughts; Timoshenko is not a bad free general. He is pretty good. He might be the weakest of these five, but I put him in here to show that the gap isn't that massive in damage output, especially in the '41 east campaign. I would probably rank these generals as (1) Patton - high base damage, better than others on non-heavies, wrecks special units; (2)& (3) depends on how much you value speed. I think I would go Vatutin over Rossy because Vatutin's raw damage output is just that high and he gets +2 speed from the KV-6, but I get it if you need the extra movement from Rossy. (4) Monty is a poor choice on the Kv-6 compared to the rest, he either needs to sit on a factory and defend, or be a fast moving attacker and use his air skill (which is hard because air attacks cost quite a bit of money, which drains money to replenish Monty...). Finally, Manstein is +40 damage, so 93-103 dmg; plus boosts other armor. Given his blitz skill, I would put him in a regular tank to passively boost damage from Vatutin or Rossy in a KV-6. It looks like we have an unobvious leader. Vatutin is the best choice in terms of damage / medal ratio. Deals the same damage as Patton, costs only 720 medals and is available 1 company earlier. Lack of mobility is not so critical. Tanks have higher mobility compared to artillery and infantry.
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Dec 1, 2020 15:50:48 GMT
Best allied tank? Govorov on Pries. Honestly this is the truth IMO. Allied tanks < Allied artillery
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Dec 1, 2020 15:51:41 GMT
This is an American M6 heavy tank. I rode from Rokki to kv6 in the Kursk battle. Impressive my poor Monty is also not bad at kv6, but this is a pale copy. Well may be But American tanks in this game are looking like that It is probably a case of the old "minors use random obscure vehicle sprites" they did in the past games. That is indeed an American M6, which was the predecessor to the "actual" US heavy in-game, the T29 M6 was actually adopted (only by the US and in small numbers), hence the "M" in "M6". "T" was a test designation, because those that did testing and those that procured had a different standard for nomenclature.
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Post by KenKenGreatest on Mar 30, 2022 5:30:35 GMT
Vatutin and Rokossovsky
Vatutin: He is almost like Guderian, and the speed doesn't matter in the tank because theres SF there, he is your MT until you got Rokossovsky
Rokossovsky:He is like Montgomery but more damage, buying monty is a pretty idio* plan because he's expensive, and Patton is kind of disappointing general because he's so weak. Rokossovsky has the Panzer Leader so buy him, and the Machinist and Anti Armor yo buy him and he's fast at much cheaper price.
But I love Montgomery's Machinist it's very useful because it saves you a lot of money.
So Vatutin > Rokossovsky > Montgomery > Patton
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Mar 30, 2022 10:34:27 GMT
Vatutin and Rokossovsky Vatutin: He is almost like Guderian, and the speed doesn't matter in the tank because theres SF there, he is your MT until you got Rokossovsky Rokossovsky:He is like Montgomery but more damage, buying monty is a pretty idio* plan because he's expensive, and Patton is kind of disappointing general because he's so weak. Rokossovsky has the Panzer Leader so buy him, and the Machinist and Anti Armor yo buy him and he's fast at much cheaper price. But I love Montgomery's Machinist it's very useful because it saves you a lot of money. So Vatutin > Rokossovsky > Montgomery > Patton Patton damage is undeniably weak but like almost every generals who doesn't have ToI will also have smiliar damage to Patton so yeah,also Machinist is pretty bad since you will recruit more than you heal by replenish
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Post by KenKenGreatest on Mar 30, 2022 10:48:57 GMT
Btw, there are also Indian heavy tanks So, I think India will be a part of future updates. I though it was Polish 😂 don't know cause don't know, maybe because the uniform of Indian is not like that I saw an Indian unit in North Africa 1941 in Axis campaign
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Mar 30, 2022 10:55:55 GMT
Btw, there are also Indian heavy tanks So, I think India will be a part of future updates. I though it was Polish 😂 don't know cause don't know, maybe because the uniform of Indian is not like that I saw an Indian unit in North Africa 1941 in Axis campaign it's a standard skin for non alligned country,since India is a "non alligned" country even though it isn't, it have standard skin
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Post by stoic on Mar 30, 2022 11:04:11 GMT
Btw, there are also Indian heavy tanks So, I think India will be a part of future updates. I though it was Polish 😂 don't know cause don't know, maybe because the uniform of Indian is not like that I saw an Indian unit in North Africa 1941 in Axis campaign It was a wrong assumption anyway I hoped they will add a global new conquest with Middle East and Asia, but it never happened...
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