Post by CountVonNumenor on Dec 23, 2020 21:22:43 GMT
DISCLAIMER! I wan this thread to be kept as civil as possible, and if possible, to have a reason for making a statement. I am just tired of hate. If I were this in any other place I frequently get into, probably 90% of the time I would get bashed, roasted, made fun of or simply asked to purge it like the degenerate I am (to their eyes).
As an Eastern European with access to the technologies of modern world, I started to find interesting different elements of modern media across the world. But Jesus Christ, what is all the hate for anime (and sometimes Japan in general)? It is something I never understood, as my stance on the topic of anime is that I am neutral, neither hating nor loving it. To me, I see it just as a style that looks interesting to draw, and that's it. At least in my case, I have never seen a reason to hate something if I had no idea what it is/how it works, or just because it is not on my taste. To say it is not your cup of tea, sure, go for it. But to blindly hate on something and call it degeneracy without offering a serious reason for an extreme view, that is something I find more difficult to digest
. Whenever someone posts even the most innocent anime-related thing, he just either gets joked on with the so called โanime police - arrested for degeneracyโ, verbally or through memes hit with a bonk or called names. I used to be somehow in the situation of banishing those who posted Japanese media long ago, but I feel things changed quite a lot as I grew up and got more access to the world. It is very ironic that an animation/art style that basically evolved from the Western animation style (long story short, the first โanimeโ cartoons were basically created after some Japanese artists watched American animation films starring Bettie Boop, and got to love the style, if I am not wrong regarding the story) grew to such fame, or maybe infamy - depending on how you see it. Again, not liking something because it is not on your taste is alright. But hating it without a clear reason, that is something I find hard to process, if not outright frustrating depending on my mood when I encounter such a situation. I feel like I am forgetting something, but I am not sure what is it....
Or I am just a fool who is slowly turning into a filthy weeb? Also, should I be ashamed of myself if I say I do not hate this genre?
DISCLAIMER#2: I do realise Japanese culture is not just anime (and more or less of a joke, FilthyFrank covered the topic of weaboos quite well years ago, especially how to make the difference between someone who just like an animation genre and those who believe themselved to be Japanese even if they are not). I had the chance to learn more about their old art recently, and got a bit of curiosity about culture, traditions and history (currently trying to understand the ancient times and everything until the Heian period). Things like the game series Touhou just made me more curious to learn about the story behind legends and myths that inspired certain themes, characters and other elements of the series.
news.blogs.lib.lsu.edu/files/2015/08/ship.jpg
Even if not as old, these are Japanese depictions from the 1860 of the American Civil War. From what I found out, I think Japanese reporters, or at least artists have witnessed the war, and made several images like this one. And to be fair, I really like this art style. It is something very different, if not unique compared to most of what I am used to
And something I have made in manga style (or at least inspiration), in order to show this whole genre is not just about naughty stuff and sexualised, ambiguously aged people as some may think and can be justified (though lets be fair, I do not think us, in the West, are much better than them - everyone will draw naughty stuff at some point, just that ours are so much in the open/visible to everyone), but can be used for some good stuff too
As an Eastern European with access to the technologies of modern world, I started to find interesting different elements of modern media across the world. But Jesus Christ, what is all the hate for anime (and sometimes Japan in general)? It is something I never understood, as my stance on the topic of anime is that I am neutral, neither hating nor loving it. To me, I see it just as a style that looks interesting to draw, and that's it. At least in my case, I have never seen a reason to hate something if I had no idea what it is/how it works, or just because it is not on my taste. To say it is not your cup of tea, sure, go for it. But to blindly hate on something and call it degeneracy without offering a serious reason for an extreme view, that is something I find more difficult to digest
. Whenever someone posts even the most innocent anime-related thing, he just either gets joked on with the so called โanime police - arrested for degeneracyโ, verbally or through memes hit with a bonk or called names. I used to be somehow in the situation of banishing those who posted Japanese media long ago, but I feel things changed quite a lot as I grew up and got more access to the world. It is very ironic that an animation/art style that basically evolved from the Western animation style (long story short, the first โanimeโ cartoons were basically created after some Japanese artists watched American animation films starring Bettie Boop, and got to love the style, if I am not wrong regarding the story) grew to such fame, or maybe infamy - depending on how you see it. Again, not liking something because it is not on your taste is alright. But hating it without a clear reason, that is something I find hard to process, if not outright frustrating depending on my mood when I encounter such a situation. I feel like I am forgetting something, but I am not sure what is it....
Or I am just a fool who is slowly turning into a filthy weeb? Also, should I be ashamed of myself if I say I do not hate this genre?
DISCLAIMER#2: I do realise Japanese culture is not just anime (and more or less of a joke, FilthyFrank covered the topic of weaboos quite well years ago, especially how to make the difference between someone who just like an animation genre and those who believe themselved to be Japanese even if they are not). I had the chance to learn more about their old art recently, and got a bit of curiosity about culture, traditions and history (currently trying to understand the ancient times and everything until the Heian period). Things like the game series Touhou just made me more curious to learn about the story behind legends and myths that inspired certain themes, characters and other elements of the series.
news.blogs.lib.lsu.edu/files/2015/08/ship.jpg
Even if not as old, these are Japanese depictions from the 1860 of the American Civil War. From what I found out, I think Japanese reporters, or at least artists have witnessed the war, and made several images like this one. And to be fair, I really like this art style. It is something very different, if not unique compared to most of what I am used to
And something I have made in manga style (or at least inspiration), in order to show this whole genre is not just about naughty stuff and sexualised, ambiguously aged people as some may think and can be justified (though lets be fair, I do not think us, in the West, are much better than them - everyone will draw naughty stuff at some point, just that ours are so much in the open/visible to everyone), but can be used for some good stuff too
