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Post by Inactive user on Sept 24, 2021 13:48:17 GMT
Hey, i would like to apply for the historical society. I'm best in ww1 and 2, a bit of romans, and a teeny tiny bit of Napoleon. If the Ottomans had given up Gallipoli and entrenched further in, how would the war on the Mid East change? It would possible have a really big impact on the war. Gallipolli was an important location for the allies, as this coulve provided the allies with a stronghold from where they could capture Istanbul. This would lead to the Ottoman surrender, in turn leading to the entente being able to adequatly help Russia win the war, because the Ottomans were no longer in the way. It would also give the British and the entente in general a morale boost, and demorilaze the Central powers. (Sorry if the answer is off, my knowledge is only limited) |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 24, 2021 14:22:01 GMT
If the Ottomans had given up Gallipoli and entrenched further in, how would the war on the Mid East change? It would possible have a really big impact on the war. Gallipolli was an important location for the allies, as this coulve provided the allies with a stronghold from where they could capture Istanbul. This would lead to the Ottoman surrender, in turn leading to the entente being able to adequatly help Russia win the war, because the Ottomans were no longer in the way. It would also give the British and the entente in general a morale boost, and demorilaze the Central powers. (Sorry if the answer is off, my knowledge is only limited) Excellent! Building off that, how would it affect communism in Russia? |
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Post by Inactive user on Sept 24, 2021 14:37:51 GMT
It would possible have a really big impact on the war. Gallipolli was an important location for the allies, as this coulve provided the allies with a stronghold from where they could capture Istanbul. This would lead to the Ottoman surrender, in turn leading to the entente being able to adequatly help Russia win the war, because the Ottomans were no longer in the way. It would also give the British and the entente in general a morale boost, and demorilaze the Central powers. (Sorry if the answer is off, my knowledge is only limited) Excellent! Building off that, how would it affect communism in Russia? I'm torn between saying it would affect it a lot and only a little bit. Communism on its own would most likely be heavily affected, as it could only rise due to the révolution, which was sparked by Russia losing the war and having no more supplies, which would be fixed in this alterante reality. Of course, the revolution would still most likely happen. This is because WW1 was merely the trigger to the revolution. There were also a huge number of extra reasons, that had been boiling for years. If not then, then maybe later, but the revolution would still most likely happen. But maybe it wouldn't be communism which would rise to power, but democracy? I have no idea. But communism would most likely not even start to spread, as it was mainly thanks to Lenin that it started in Russia. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 24, 2021 14:45:03 GMT
Excellent! Building off that, how would it affect communism in Russia? I'm torn between saying it would affect it a lot and only a little bit. Communism on its own would most likely be heavily affected, as it could only rise due to the révolution, which was sparked by Russia losing the war and having no more supplies, which would be fixed in this alterante reality. Of course, the revolution would still most likely happen. This is because WW1 was merely the trigger to the revolution. There were also a huge number of extra reasons, that had been boiling for years. If not then, then maybe later, but the revolution would still most likely happen. But maybe it wouldn't be communism which would rise to power, but democracy? I have no idea. But communism would most likely not even start to spread, as it was mainly thanks to Lenin that it started in Russia. Very good, but I'll have to ask you to choose one and why. |
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Post by Inactive user on Sept 24, 2021 14:53:58 GMT
I'm torn between saying it would affect it a lot and only a little bit. Communism on its own would most likely be heavily affected, as it could only rise due to the révolution, which was sparked by Russia losing the war and having no more supplies, which would be fixed in this alterante reality. Of course, the revolution would still most likely happen. This is because WW1 was merely the trigger to the revolution. There were also a huge number of extra reasons, that had been boiling for years. If not then, then maybe later, but the revolution would still most likely happen. But maybe it wouldn't be communism which would rise to power, but democracy? I have no idea. But communism would most likely not even start to spread, as it was mainly thanks to Lenin that it started in Russia. Very good, but I'll have to ask you to choose one and why. What do you mean? My first statement? Tjat i am torn betwezn the two? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 24, 2021 16:28:31 GMT
Very good, but I'll have to ask you to choose one and why. What do you mean? My first statement? Tjat i am torn betwezn the two? I meant that, as a final question, pick a side of the two and defend it. |
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Post by Inactive user on Sept 24, 2021 18:03:56 GMT
What do you mean? My first statement? Tjat i am torn betwezn the two? I meant that, as a final question, pick a side of the two and defend it. Ok, i'll answer this tomorrow if possible. I'll go to sleep now  |
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Post by Inactive user on Sept 24, 2021 18:36:59 GMT
Or you know what I'll do it right here before i go to sleep. My answer: first, I need to point out that it is pretty much impossible to pick a side here, as tou need to Remember that we're talking about a "what if" scenario, which means you cannot possible tell what's gonna happen with full certainty. But if i need to pick a side, I'd pick that it would influence Communism a lot. The reason why i'm saying this, is because WW1 revolution was a golden opportunity for the Bolsheviks to take over. If this revolution didn't even happen, because Russia was receiving enough supplies, support and military help to win the war, then the Bolsheviks couldn't have staged their coup. Another opportunity like this wouldn't occur until 1939, when WW2 came along, or possibly 1929, the great bank crash. Sadly, the main character in communism, mr Vladimir Lenin, was already dead by then, meaning that Communism wouldn't have spread as it did in our timeline. Or atleast not in Russia. (As i've said, this is a what-if scenario, so anything could've happened. I'm merely going by the events which did happen in our timeline.) The reason why I have this tought, is because if Lenin died, there were really only 2 people who could've taken over: Stalin or Trotsky. Stalin was never a good leader, and would have not been able to organize the CCCP in it's early years (we all know how deals with wars and conflicts). The other option, Trotsky, would've been a better pick, but he didn't have the leader skills Lenin did. He was more of a military strategist. So, either way, the CCCP wouldn't have been able to become as influential and important as in our timeline. (I really hope this was the right answer  ) |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Sept 24, 2021 18:44:36 GMT
Or you know what I'll do it right here before i go to sleep. My answer: first, I need to point out that it is pretty much impossible to pick a side here, as tou need to Remember that we're talking about a "what if" scenario, which means you cannot possible tell what's gonna happen with full certainty. But if i need to pick a side, I'd pick that it would influence Communism a lot. The reason why i'm saying this, is because WW1 revolution was a golden opportunity for the Bolsheviks to take over. If this revolution didn't even happen, because Russia was receiving enough supplies, support and military help to win the war, then the Bolsheviks couldn't have staged their coup. Another opportunity like this wouldn't occur until 1939, when WW2 came along, or possibly 1929, the great bank crash. Sadly, the main character in communism, mr Vladimir Lenin, was already dead by then, meaning that Communism wouldn't have spread as it did in our timeline. Or atleast not in Russia. (As i've said, this is a what-if scenario, so anything could've happened. I'm merely going by the events which did happen in our timeline.) The reason why I have this tought, is because if Lenin died, there were really only 2 people who could've taken over: Stalin or Trotsky. Stalin was never a good leader, and would have not been able to organize the CCCP in it's early years (we all know how deals with wars and conflicts). The other option, Trotsky, would've been a better pick, but he didn't have the leader skills Lenin did. He was more of a military strategist. So, either way, the CCCP wouldn't have been able to become as influential and important as in our timeline. (I really hope this was the right answer ) How about Lev Kamenev, Grigori Zinovjev, Aleksei Rykov, Mihail Buharin and Tomski? |
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Post by Inactive user on Sept 24, 2021 18:46:45 GMT
Or you know what I'll do it right here before i go to sleep. My answer: first, I need to point out that it is pretty much impossible to pick a side here, as tou need to Remember that we're talking about a "what if" scenario, which means you cannot possible tell what's gonna happen with full certainty. But if i need to pick a side, I'd pick that it would influence Communism a lot. The reason why i'm saying this, is because WW1 revolution was a golden opportunity for the Bolsheviks to take over. If this revolution didn't even happen, because Russia was receiving enough supplies, support and military help to win the war, then the Bolsheviks couldn't have staged their coup. Another opportunity like this wouldn't occur until 1939, when WW2 came along, or possibly 1929, the great bank crash. Sadly, the main character in communism, mr Vladimir Lenin, was already dead by then, meaning that Communism wouldn't have spread as it did in our timeline. Or atleast not in Russia. (As i've said, this is a what-if scenario, so anything could've happened. I'm merely going by the events which did happen in our timeline.) The reason why I have this tought, is because if Lenin died, there were really only 2 people who could've taken over: Stalin or Trotsky. Stalin was never a good leader, and would have not been able to organize the CCCP in it's early years (we all know how deals with wars and conflicts). The other option, Trotsky, would've been a better pick, but he didn't have the leader skills Lenin did. He was more of a military strategist. So, either way, the CCCP wouldn't have been able to become as influential and important as in our timeline. (I really hope this was the right answer ) How about Lev Kamenev, Grigori Zinovjev, Aleksei Rykov, Mihail Buharin and Tomski? They were not as well known and as important as the two possible candidates I listed, meaning they'd have a much harder time bzcoming the leader of a newly formed nation. |
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Post by Inactive user on Sept 24, 2021 18:54:26 GMT
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 24, 2021 18:55:36 GMT
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 24, 2021 18:56:16 GMT
Follow the directions on page 1 to request.
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Post by Inactive user on Sept 24, 2021 19:00:14 GMT
Follow the directions on page 1 to request. YEA BOI thx a lot |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Sept 24, 2021 19:03:27 GMT
How about Lev Kamenev, Grigori Zinovjev, Aleksei Rykov, Mihail Buharin and Tomski? They were not as well known and as important as the two possible candidates I listed, meaning they'd have a much harder time bzcoming the leader of a newly formed nation. Well, the biggest role of all after Lenin most probably belongs to Trotski. Stalin did not make that significant of a contribution in the revolution and hadn't really been popular. In fact when he was exiled in Siberia before the revolution, Lenin once asked his comrades "can you tell me Koba's (Stalin's nickname) real name" and his comrades couldn't answer. Now back to the original topic, I believe that for example Grigori Zinovjev was a great candidate. Irl he and Kamenev opposed Lenin's proposal for the revolution, which would affect their reputation negatively, but we are talking about an alternative timeline so things could have been different. Also if Trotsky wouldn't have been there with such an important role, Stalin would have had a much harder time getting rid of Zinovjev and friends, because irl he allied with them to destroy the left wing, which helped him gain power and annihilate Zinovjev, Kamenev, Kalinin, Tomski, Rykov and Buharin. |
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