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Post by John Marston on Jul 15, 2021 4:02:32 GMT
Impressive. Which of them you love/know the most? The one which I know the most about is the Napoleonic Wars. I am personally a bit of a Napoleon fanboy. Though most of my knowledge comes from watching Epic History TV on the subject Uhm...Ok, let's have a discussion. It's 1813. Napoleon just got beaten at Leipzig. The Tsar is pressing for an offensive into France. You want peace. How would you convince him for peace? Imagine you are me Napoleon
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Post by John Marston on Jul 15, 2021 4:14:37 GMT
Uhm...Ok, let's have a discussion. It's 1813. Napoleon just got beaten at Leipzig. The Tsar is pressing for an offensive into France. You want peace. How would you convince him for peace? Imagine you are me Napoleon Accept the peace offered by Austrians I was asking Voltaire. It's the entrance test to this group.
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Post by Voltaire on Jul 15, 2021 18:18:29 GMT
Accept the peace offered by Austrians I was asking Voltaire . It's the entrance test to this group. It would be difficult considering I had invaded Russia first. What I would do is to first win a couple of battles to better my leveraging position. I would target Prussian and Austrian armies as they are the ones who are the easiest to force into peace. Then I would offer a peace treaty to Austria, hoping they would accept it. Since Austria does not want Russia taking too much power in the region, a major defeat of the Austrian army should suffice. Then with Austria out, I would be able to pressure many of the German allies who betrayed me at Leipzig o join me and then I would attack Prussia and Russia. Since the Russians would be so far away from home, their morale would be low and communication lines stretched. Then I would jut inflict one major defeat on the Russians and then ask for a peace treaty as the demoralized Russian army would not want to go any further.
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Post by John Marston on Jul 16, 2021 2:30:39 GMT
I was asking Voltaire . It's the entrance test to this group. It would be difficult considering I had invaded Russia first. What I would do is to first win a couple of battles to better my leveraging position. I would target Prussian and Austrian armies as they are the ones who are the easiest to force into peace. Then I would offer a peace treaty to Austria, hoping they would accept it. Since Austria does not want Russia taking too much power in the region, a major defeat of the Austrian army should suffice. Then with Austria out, I would be able to pressure many of the German allies who betrayed me at Leipzig o join me and then I would attack Prussia and Russia. Since the Russians would be so far away from home, their morale would be low and communication lines stretched. Then I would jut inflict one major defeat on the Russians and then ask for a peace treaty as the demoralized Russian army would not want to go any further. Hmm...Interesting. To win a battle, you need Cavalry, which Napoleon had very less after Russian campaign. How would you cover the shortage of cavalry?
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Post by Voltaire on Jul 16, 2021 3:50:34 GMT
It would be difficult considering I had invaded Russia first. What I would do is to first win a couple of battles to better my leveraging position. I would target Prussian and Austrian armies as they are the ones who are the easiest to force into peace. Then I would offer a peace treaty to Austria, hoping they would accept it. Since Austria does not want Russia taking too much power in the region, a major defeat of the Austrian army should suffice. Then with Austria out, I would be able to pressure many of the German allies who betrayed me at Leipzig o join me and then I would attack Prussia and Russia. Since the Russians would be so far away from home, their morale would be low and communication lines stretched. Then I would jut inflict one major defeat on the Russians and then ask for a peace treaty as the demoralized Russian army would not want to go any further. Hmm...Interesting. To win a battle, you need Cavalry, which Napoleon had very less after Russian campaign. How would you cover the shortage of cavalry? Cavalry is recommended, not mandatory. Napoleon was able to win at Bautzen and Lutzen without very little cavalry. If he could do it once, He could do it again. He also was able to win massive victories at Dresden and in his six days campaign with minimum cavalry. So I don't really think the loss of Cavalry would be that big of a deal because in France, he does not need cavalry for his lines of communication, and the use of it in reconnaissance is lower at home. He may not be able to launch a good pursuit, but a decisive enough win should still be possible for him.
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Post by John Marston on Jul 16, 2021 3:52:02 GMT
Hmm...Interesting. To win a battle, you need Cavalry, which Napoleon had very less after Russian campaign. How would you cover the shortage of cavalry? Cavalry is recommended, not mandatory. Napoleon was able to win at Bautzen and Lutzen without very little cavalry. If he could do it once, He could do it again. He also was able to win massive victories at Dresden and in his six days campaign with minimum cavalry. So I don't really think the loss of Cavalry would be that big of a deal because in France, he does not need cavalry for his lines of communication, and the use of it in reconnaissance is lower at home. He may not be able to launch a good pursuit, but a decisive enough win should still be possible for him. What about reconissance? You need to send a strong cavalry force to get recon (Enemy positions, formations...).
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Post by Voltaire on Jul 16, 2021 3:54:24 GMT
Cavalry is recommended, not mandatory. Napoleon was able to win at Bautzen and Lutzen without very little cavalry. If he could do it once, He could do it again. He also was able to win massive victories at Dresden and in his six days campaign with minimum cavalry. So I don't really think the loss of Cavalry would be that big of a deal because in France, he does not need cavalry for his lines of communication, and the use of it in reconnaissance is lower at home. He may not be able to launch a good pursuit, but a decisive enough win should still be possible for him. What about reconissance? You need to send a strong cavalry force to get recon (Enemy positions, formations...). That he will need. His entire Cavalry was not wiped out, just severely cut down. He could use his Cavalry primarily for Reconnaissance and then hold them back in Battle so that they do not get wasted. He also still had his Guard Cavalry which would be pretty effective in Reconissance and would probably be able to do the work of a larger reconissance force.
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Post by John Marston on Jul 16, 2021 4:00:25 GMT
What about reconissance? You need to send a strong cavalry force to get recon (Enemy positions, formations...). That he will need. His entire Cavalry was not wiped out, just severely cut down. He could use his Cavalry primarily for Reconnaissance and then hold them back in Battle so that they do not get wasted. He also still had his Guard Cavalry which would be pretty effective in Reconissance and would probably be able to do the work of a larger reconissance force. How would the Iberian campaign be different if you were Napoleon (If you were Napoleon)
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Post by Voltaire on Jul 18, 2021 3:52:01 GMT
That he will need. His entire Cavalry was not wiped out, just severely cut down. He could use his Cavalry primarily for Reconnaissance and then hold them back in Battle so that they do not get wasted. He also still had his Guard Cavalry which would be pretty effective in Reconissance and would probably be able to do the work of a larger reconissance force. How would the Iberian campaign be different if you were Napoleon (If you were Napoleon) If I was Napoleon, I would completely finish the Iberian Campaign once in the beginning and put into power charasmatic and well-liked rulers and governors. For example, Napoleon only invaded Spain once and left quickly after that, if I was Napoleon, I would have marched down with the army once early on and completely taken over the entire country instead of leaving a secondary army to complete the task. I also would install people like Marshal Suchet on the Crown or as governors because they knew how to take care of the hearts of the people and ensure that the guerillas do not find help with the general populace. I would also create strict anti-looting rules for my army, Marshal Victor and Soult were notorious for looting and that gave them a bad name. If there was no looting, then there would be less reason for guerillas to attack as the people would be living normally with a governor who is trying to keep its people happy.
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Post by John Marston on Jul 18, 2021 5:45:35 GMT
Hmm...interesting take. So I wanted to ask a few more, but since you look busy, I will let you in. Welcome Voltaire
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Post by Voltaire on Jul 18, 2021 6:25:16 GMT
Hmm...interesting take. So I wanted to ask a few more, but since you look busy, I will let you in. Welcome Voltaire Thank you
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Post by Voltaire on Jul 18, 2021 16:17:07 GMT
Hmm...interesting take. So I wanted to ask a few more, but since you look busy, I will let you in. Welcome Voltaire Also Karl Donitz, is there any area where I can share my history knowledge and debate others. I checked polls and presentations but that seems to be mostly polls only.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 18, 2021 21:33:12 GMT
Those Guerrillas were basically bandits This is only a question who is providing your propaganda. Try to listen once to your message/news provider from a outer standpoint, and you will see, how the phrases rebell, freedomfighter, terrorist, bandits and guerillia, etc. are used to manipulate the recievers. And this is the same if you are from the US, Russia, China the Eu or Iran, North Corea or any other country on this planet. Exactly the same everywhere ! PS: Always remember, history is written from the winner!
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Post by John Marston on Jul 19, 2021 3:29:57 GMT
Hmm...interesting take. So I wanted to ask a few more, but since you look busy, I will let you in. Welcome Voltaire Also Karl Donitz, is there any area where I can share my history knowledge and debate others. I checked polls and presentations but that seems to be mostly polls only. You can do any presentation about anything there. No one does that nowadays. Me, Gerd von Rundstedt and Friedrich Engels did one to revive the tradition, but there have been very few since then.
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Post by John Marston on Jul 19, 2021 3:30:42 GMT
Those Guerrillas were basically bandits This is only a question who is providing your propaganda. Try to listen once to your message/news provider from a outer standpoint, and you will see, how the phrases rebell, freedomfighter, terrorist, bandits and guerillia, etc. are used to manipulate the recievers. And this is the same if you are from the US, Russia, China the Eu or Iran, North Corea or any other country on this planet. Exactly the same everywhere ! PS: Always remember, history is written from the winner! Hence it's Napoleon. Not Napoleon the Great
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