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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 4, 2021 17:15:57 GMT
That's what I specialized in before WW2! (not propagandized) Then who was more good or less evil between them. There is no good or evil in warfare, only people. Considering the ideology of the sides, I am a strong supporter of decentralized government and the right to secession, but I (obviously) do not condone forced Slavery. If you can quit from slavery, I would say it is morally questionable, but not wrong. I think the North under Lincoln meant well, but they had no right to invade the South. If you bring up Ft. Sumter, I can testify that it was a state held base in which the Union troops were given plenty of Warnings to leave. I believe slavery would have fizzled out within time, and it (arguably) was not worth 1.5 million casualties and 620,000 deaths, many of those African American. TBH, the North didn't do much better on the Slavery question, not trying to free slaves, and trying to send free blacks to Africa. However, I applaud the Union troops who gave their lives for a united Union, although I think they are entirely mistaken. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:32:03 GMT
Then who was more good or less evil between them. There is no good or evil in warfare, only people. Considering the ideology of the sides, I am a strong supporter of decentralized government and the right to secession, but I (obviously) do not condone forced Slavery. If you can quit from slavery, I would say it is morally questionable, but not wrong. I think the North under Lincoln meant well, but they had no right to invade the South. If you bring up Ft. Sumter, I can testify that it was a state held base in which the Union troops were given plenty of Warnings to leave. I believe slavery would have fizzled out within time, and it (arguably) was not worth 1.5 million casualties and 620,000 deaths, many of those African American. TBH, the North didn't do much better on the Slavery question, not trying to free slaves, and trying to send free blacks to Africa. However, I applaud the Union troops who gave their lives for a united Union, although I think they are entirely mistaken. Wow, I never though of it like that. Still, if the South had managed to secede I think the power balance would have been very different. For all we know the Confederates could have joined the Axis in WWII. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 4, 2021 17:50:40 GMT
There is no good or evil in warfare, only people. Considering the ideology of the sides, I am a strong supporter of decentralized government and the right to secession, but I (obviously) do not condone forced Slavery. If you can quit from slavery, I would say it is morally questionable, but not wrong. I think the North under Lincoln meant well, but they had no right to invade the South. If you bring up Ft. Sumter, I can testify that it was a state held base in which the Union troops were given plenty of Warnings to leave. I believe slavery would have fizzled out within time, and it (arguably) was not worth 1.5 million casualties and 620,000 deaths, many of those African American. TBH, the North didn't do much better on the Slavery question, not trying to free slaves, and trying to send free blacks to Africa. However, I applaud the Union troops who gave their lives for a united Union, although I think they are entirely mistaken. Wow, I never though of it like that. Still, if the South had managed to secede I think the power balance would have been very different. For all we know the Confederates could have joined the Axis in WWII. Why would you say that? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:56:39 GMT
The south would likely remain resentful of the north due to their conflicting views. Furthermore, the South would likely sympathize with the idea of fascism due to their very far rightist ideological standing. The Germans could pull something like the Zimmerman Telegram, giving the South the option to invade the weaker North after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 4, 2021 18:31:07 GMT
The south would likely remain resentful of the north due to their conflicting views. Furthermore, the South would likely sympathize with the idea of fascism due to their very far rightist ideological standing. The Germans could pull something like the Zimmerman Telegram, giving the South the option to invade the weaker North after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Far rightest Ideological standing? How? The south wanted a decentralized gov't. They were small government, fiscally conservative, and socially conservative. They in no way had "far rightest" views. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 4, 2021 23:49:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 1:47:30 GMT
Then who was more good or less evil between them. There is no good or evil in warfare, only people. Considering the ideology of the sides, I am a strong supporter of decentralized government and the right to secession, but I (obviously) do not condone forced Slavery. If you can quit from slavery, I would say it is morally questionable, but not wrong. I think the North under Lincoln meant well, but they had no right to invade the South. If you bring up Ft. Sumter, I can testify that it was a state held base in which the Union troops were given plenty of Warnings to leave. I believe slavery would have fizzled out within time, and it (arguably) was not worth 1.5 million casualties and 620,000 deaths, many of those African American. TBH, the North didn't do much better on the Slavery question, not trying to free slaves, and trying to send free blacks to Africa. However, I applaud the Union troops who gave their lives for a united Union, although I think they are entirely mistaken. It seems, you are a CSA sympathiser. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 1:49:23 GMT
The south would likely remain resentful of the north due to their conflicting views. Furthermore, the South would likely sympathize with the idea of fascism due to their very far rightist ideological standing. The Germans could pull something like the Zimmerman Telegram, giving the South the option to invade the weaker North after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Far rightest Ideological standing? How? The south wanted a decentralized gov't. They were small government, fiscally conservative, and socially conservative. They in no way had "far rightest" views. Confirmed, you are a CSA sympathiser. |
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Mar 5, 2021 1:55:16 GMT
eeeeef, if you don't mind, I would like to suggest a podcast to you, The History of Rome by Mike Duncan.
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Post by General Kenobi on Mar 8, 2021 10:01:39 GMT
It is called the Historical Society, and is for anyone who ties in-game events to RL, who makes history presentations, or who makes more historically accurate mods. When you request to join, I will look over some of your posts and see if I can let you in. I’m very good at history |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 8, 2021 14:27:19 GMT
It is called the Historical Society, and is for anyone who ties in-game events to RL, who makes history presentations, or who makes more historically accurate mods. When you request to join, I will look over some of your posts and see if I can let you in. I’m very good at history In what sense? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 14:49:47 GMT
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 8, 2021 15:01:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 15:05:10 GMT
No, this group is "above" my level. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 8, 2021 15:06:57 GMT
No, this group is "above" my level. आप प |
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