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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jan 28, 2021 14:32:53 GMT
If the Soviet capital was taken, it would only be for propaganda value and logistical assistance. The Soviets would keep on fighting. In our timeline, the Germans already had a problem with partisans. Taking Moscow wouldn't mean anything more than taking Rostov-on-don, or Kiev. if the Wehrmacht could have taken Moscow Stalin and his communist regime would be screwed but the Russian people would still fight i guess. russia is to big too conquer and control. It would need millions of Soilder's plus the material (Tanks, plane's and so on) to archive that (Wich Germany didn't had). Germany declared war on the U.S.A after it's ally attacked them (japan 6. Dez 1941) The commies would just move to a different town, like Novosibirsk, or Yekatarinburg, or even Stalingrad. |
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Post by John Marston on Jan 28, 2021 14:47:07 GMT
if the Wehrmacht could have taken Moscow Stalin and his communist regime would be screwed but the Russian people would still fight i guess. russia is to big too conquer and control. It would need millions of Soilder's plus the material (Tanks, plane's and so on) to archive that (Wich Germany didn't had). Germany declared war on the U.S.A after it's ally attacked them (japan 6. Dez 1941) The commies would just move to a different town, like Novosibirsk, or Yekatarinburg, or even Stalingrad. Siberia would become a money-sucking black hole |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jan 28, 2021 14:49:42 GMT
I mean, It has one of like 3 warm-water ports in the Soviet Union.
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Post by John Marston on Feb 5, 2021 16:07:00 GMT
I mean, It has one of like 3 warm-water ports in the Soviet Union. Hitler's biggest blunder was to...? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 5, 2021 16:52:44 GMT
I mean, It has one of like 3 warm-water ports in the Soviet Union. Hitler's biggest blunder was to...? Not pull out of Stalingrad. That destroyed Barbarossa. If he did, he could have regrouped his forces and go again. Stalingrad stopped that. In addition, I hate when people say that if Hitler let his Gens work without his interference, then they would have won the war. There is one big thing I point to: the Manstein plan. Without Hitler's interference, that never would have been accepted, and France would have fallen a lot slower, or perhaps not at all. Hitler wasn't a bad strategist, but he listened to the wrong people about strategy much of the time (i.e. Goering at Dunkerque, or Halder to launch Barbarossa in June, Rundstedt at Normandy.) |
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Post by John Marston on Feb 6, 2021 4:18:13 GMT
Hitler's biggest blunder was to...? Not pull out of Stalingrad. That destroyed Barbarossa. If he did, he could have regrouped his forces and go again. Stalingrad stopped that. In addition, I hate when people say that if Hitler let his Gens work without his interference, then they would have won the war. There is one big thing I point to: the Manstein plan. Without Hitler's interference, that never would have been accepted, and France would have fallen a lot slower, or perhaps not at all. Hitler wasn't a bad strategist, but he listened to the wrong people about strategy much of the time (i.e. Goering at Dunkerque, or Halder to launch Barbarossa in June, Rundstedt at Normandy.) Goering was the dumbest war buffoon. He had no real talent. He promised Hitler that he will destroy the army trapped at Dunkirk but did not do so. He was lollying around when Air support was needed. Dunkirk was a God given opportunity to end the war quickly. But Goering messed it up. Doenitz was 100 times better than him. I agree that if Hitler didn't force to fight till last stand in Stalingrad, they would have taken it later. It was a step too far. |
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Post by John Marston on Feb 11, 2021 14:07:11 GMT
Hitler's biggest blunder was to...? Not pull out of Stalingrad. That destroyed Barbarossa. If he did, he could have regrouped his forces and go again. Stalingrad stopped that. In addition, I hate when people say that if Hitler let his Gens work without his interference, then they would have won the war. There is one big thing I point to: the Manstein plan. Without Hitler's interference, that never would have been accepted, and France would have fallen a lot slower, or perhaps not at all. Hitler wasn't a bad strategist, but he listened to the wrong people about strategy much of the time (i.e. Goering at Dunkerque, or Halder to launch Barbarossa in June, Rundstedt at Normandy.) OK! I agree that the boards are inactive and I want to do SOMETHING!! What is the best victory ever for the allies and axis Gerd von Rundstedt? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 11, 2021 14:26:01 GMT
Not pull out of Stalingrad. That destroyed Barbarossa. If he did, he could have regrouped his forces and go again. Stalingrad stopped that. In addition, I hate when people say that if Hitler let his Gens work without his interference, then they would have won the war. There is one big thing I point to: the Manstein plan. Without Hitler's interference, that never would have been accepted, and France would have fallen a lot slower, or perhaps not at all. Hitler wasn't a bad strategist, but he listened to the wrong people about strategy much of the time (i.e. Goering at Dunkerque, or Halder to launch Barbarossa in June, Rundstedt at Normandy.) OK! I agree that the boards are inactive and I want to do SOMETHING!! What is the best victory ever for the allies and axis Gerd von Rundstedt? Biggest victory for the allies was probably Kursk, as Stalingrad was also a meat grinder for the Soviets, and at Kursk, the Soviets killed off the Remainder of the Eastern Front. For the axis, It was probably either Sedan or Arras, the battles in which the French were decimated. Runner up for Allies (outside of Stalingrad was the Battle of the Bulge, which exhausted German resources, and put an end to the Western Front. Runner up for Axis was Singapore, which was perhaps the most brilliant use of air in a battle ever. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 11, 2021 14:28:14 GMT
OK! I agree that the boards are inactive and I want to do SOMETHING!! What is the best victory ever for the allies and axis Gerd von Rundstedt? Biggest victory for the allies was probably Kursk, as Stalingrad was also a meat grinder for the Soviets, and at Kursk, the Soviets killed off the Remainder of the Eastern Front. For the axis, It was probably either Sedan or Arras, the battles in which the French were decimated. Runner up for Allies (outside of Stalingrad was the Battle of the Bulge, which exhausted German resources, and put an end to the Western Front. Runner up for Axis was Singapore, which was perhaps the most brilliant use of air in a battle ever. Now, for the most brilliant failures of the war was for the axis Iwo Jima, which caused me to fall in love with the tactics of Kuribayashi. For the allies, I would go with Dunkerque, even if that was just doing the only logical way. |
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Post by John Marston on Feb 11, 2021 14:28:17 GMT
OK! I agree that the boards are inactive and I want to do SOMETHING!! What is the best victory ever for the allies and axis Gerd von Rundstedt ? Biggest victory for the allies was probably Kursk, as Stalingrad was also a meat grinder for the Soviets, and at Kursk, the Soviets killed off the Remainder of the Eastern Front. For the axis, It was probably either Sedan or Arras, the battles in which the French were decimated. Runner up for Allies (outside of Stalingrad was the Battle of the Bulge, which exhausted German resources, and put an end to the Western Front. Runner up for Axis was Singapore, which was perhaps the most brilliant use of air in a battle ever. What about the second battle of El Alamein (Is it All elamien?) |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 11, 2021 14:29:20 GMT
Nuremberg, don't get me started. Or do, if you want.  |
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Post by John Marston on Feb 11, 2021 14:30:14 GMT
Nuremberg, don't get me started. Or do, if you want. Yeah. I am ready. Nothing to do anyway. |
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Post by John Marston on Feb 11, 2021 14:36:35 GMT
Nuremberg, don't get me started. Or do, if you want. Hey, don't mind if I respond after a while because I am going for dinner now. You can complete your lecture by that time. |
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Post by John Marston on Feb 11, 2021 15:08:44 GMT
Nuremberg, don't get me started. Or do, if you want. Waiting for the release  |
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Feb 11, 2021 22:16:00 GMT
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