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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Feb 2, 2021 23:50:42 GMT
What do you think about this dare I say best french general. I think he is a cheaper option than MacArthur and with his guerilla, 4 stacks and an assault special unit, he can do some serious damage, almost as much as Mannerheim
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Post by Port on Feb 2, 2021 23:59:04 GMT
And I dare add as well, the best infantry price performer.
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Post by HangryBird on Feb 3, 2021 0:52:07 GMT
Nah, I think the best infantry price performer and cheap MacArthur for the Allies is Slim. For just 35 more medals than Tassigny, Slim has +5 more infantry ability, has Reserve for long term survival (50% more HP restored when replenishing infantry units), and Bayonet Charge (+6 damage when on infantry). While both of them have Guerrilla, an amazing skill, I think reserve is better than Fire Suppression for long-term survival, especially because Tassigny's Fire Suppression only reduces 20% of damage from a counterattack. Also, Bayonet Charge provides more reliable damage than Victory Rush, since it is hard to trigger when your units have low health on a stack, which is going to happen a lot. This means it is easy for your enemies to annihilate a stack and gain morale. Victory Rush is only a good skill on air generals because only they have the ability to lower the enemy's morale enough where they can't regain it fast enough before said generals attack.
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Feb 3, 2021 0:57:19 GMT
Yes but Tassigny has the advantage of guerilla which is when 35% chance that enemy cannot counter-attack, which for a general whose main purpose is to destroy other infantry units, is very very good
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Post by HangryBird on Feb 3, 2021 1:02:54 GMT
Yes but Tassigny has the advantage of guerilla which is when 35% chance that enemy cannot counter-attack, which for a general whose main purpose is to destroy other infantry units, is very very good I just said both of them have guerrilla and both of them have the 50% chance version. Another point: Fire Suppression and Guerrilla have terrible synergy with each other. |
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Feb 3, 2021 1:18:45 GMT
HangryBird oh sorry, i misunderstood and yes fire-suppresion is bad with guerilla but can be good, because very often, especially in Eastern front and North Africa, Your Infantry gens lose quickly their stacks so when you have fire-suppression, your general lasts even longer
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Post by HangryBird on Feb 3, 2021 1:22:08 GMT
HangryBird oh sorry, i misunderstood and yes fire-suppresion is bad with guerilla but can be good, because very often, especially in Eastern front and North Africa, Your Infantry gens lose quickly their stacks so when you have fire-suppression, your general lasts even longer Yes, Fire Suppression is very good on its own. It's just that Tassigny's terrible synergy with these two skills turns me off. For me, Reserve + Guerrilla > Fire Suppression + Guerrilla. |
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Post by glaucon on Feb 3, 2021 5:17:46 GMT
I agree with you HangryBird on Slim. 4 inf skill vs 3. Guerrilla is a wash. +6 bayonet (always active) vs +12 victory rush (situational), and reserve vs. fire suppression. I think Slim has the better mix of skills. Reserve is more useful to me than fire suppression (especially in combo w guerrilla) and I like the consistency of bayonet over victory rush. I think Tassigny or Slim should be the third choice allied infantry behind MacArthur and Dowding. So I will go a 4* rating. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 3, 2021 14:57:05 GMT
And I dare add as well, the best infantry price performer. Nyet, Kuribayashi is, but for Allies, yeah. I do prefer him to Slim, because he has +1 movement, and I like Victory rush, because I can use it almost every turn, which gives me +1 attack, and I don't really like reserve, because it is already super cheap to replenish infantry. |
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Post by HangryBird on Feb 3, 2021 16:47:33 GMT
And I dare add as well, the best infantry price performer. Nyet, Kuribayashi is, but for Allies, yeah. I do prefer him to Slim, because he has +1 movement, and I like Victory rush, because I can use it almost every turn, which gives me +1 attack, and I don't really like reserve, because it is already super cheap to replenish infantry. Yeah, the axis have a lot of good infantry options. I was just arguing Slim is the best allied infantry price performer. Reserve doesn't make it cheaper to replenish, it increases the amount of hp replenished by 50%. This is good when Slim has a tiny sliver of hp left in one of his stacks. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 3, 2021 17:05:31 GMT
Nyet, Kuribayashi is, but for Allies, yeah. I do prefer him to Slim, because he has +1 movement, and I like Victory rush, because I can use it almost every turn, which gives me +1 attack, and I don't really like reserve, because it is already super cheap to replenish infantry. Yeah, the axis have a lot of good infantry options. I was just arguing Slim is the best allied infantry price performer. Reserve doesn't make it cheaper to replenish, it increases the amount of hp replenished by 50%. This is good when Slim has a tiny sliver of hp left in one of his stacks. How often does that happen, though? |
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Post by HangryBird on Feb 3, 2021 17:10:49 GMT
Yeah, the axis have a lot of good infantry options. I was just arguing Slim is the best allied infantry price performer. Reserve doesn't make it cheaper to replenish, it increases the amount of hp replenished by 50%. This is good when Slim has a tiny sliver of hp left in one of his stacks. How often does that happen, though? I don't know about you, but this happens to me a lot more than I thought it would. That's why Reserve seems useful to me. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 3, 2021 17:17:03 GMT
How often does that happen, though? I don't know about you, but this happens to me a lot more than I thought it would. That's why Reserve seems useful to me. Oh, It doesn't happen to me that often, which is probably why I disparage it so. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 24, 2021 17:31:25 GMT
Tassigny is honestly a MacArthur lite.
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