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Post by Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim on Feb 6, 2021 23:03:29 GMT
Hello everybody. There were so many argues here about which artillery general we should buy besides Konev. So there are only two decent candidates: Zhukov and Leeb (I think that my love Govorov is too weak for Modern War unfortunately same as Zhang Z.Z.) But what is actually better option for p2w players: buying Zhukov or approx. 10000 medals for that money instead which I could immediately invest in buying and upgrading Leeb? IMO upgraded Leeb can be almost same strong as upgraded Zhukov(plain + rumor vs art. barrage + crossfire + explosive + 1 art. star), but I can be wrong.. I use Arnold on rockets now but I really want a second artillery gen.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 6, 2021 23:58:45 GMT
Hello everybody. There were so many argues here about which artillery general we should buy besides Konev. So there are only two decent candidates: Zhukov and Leeb (I think that my love Govorov is too weak for Modern War unfortunately same as Zhang Z.Z.) But what is actually better option for p2w players: buying Zhukov or approx. 10000 medals for that money instead which I could immediately invest in buying and upgrading Leeb? IMO upgraded Leeb can be almost same strong as upgraded Zhukov(plain + rumor vs art. barrage + crossfire + explosive + 1 art. star), but I can be wrong.. I use Arnold on rockets now but I really want a second artillery gen. Contrary to many on this forum, I prefer Govorov to Leeb. He is slower but does more dmg. Rumor is unnecessary as you will already have 3 rumor gens, so he can have Art Barrage (Superior to Art Leader because I prefer a little 1/3 the time regularly to a little more 1/3 of the time periodically), Jungle fighting (Superior to PF because of extra defense), and explosives (Superior to rumor because you should have 3 rumor gens by now), and instead of extra movement, extra attack. Around same HP and only prob;em is cost. Govorov is the best for MW.
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Post by George Rudi on Feb 7, 2021 10:28:19 GMT
Hello everybody. There were so many argues here about which artillery general we should buy besides Konev. So there are only two decent candidates: Zhukov and Leeb (I think that my love Govorov is too weak for Modern War unfortunately same as Zhang Z.Z.) But what is actually better option for p2w players: buying Zhukov or approx. 10000 medals for that money instead which I could immediately invest in buying and upgrading Leeb? IMO upgraded Leeb can be almost same strong as upgraded Zhukov(plain + rumor vs art. barrage + crossfire + explosive + 1 art. star), but I can be wrong.. I use Arnold on rockets now but I really want a second artillery gen. There are only 4 Arty Gen that worth to buy in the game 1. Konev, the best arty gen (useful to infantry invasion too) 2. Leeb, best buy arty gen after Konev. Useful from the beginning till the end. 3. Arnold, cheapest Rumor gen. One of the best Air Gen. 4. Zhukov. Not that worth but his stats and skills are great. beside that 4, the other arty gen aren't worth to buy, include Govorov (6 arty stars don't make him good because of his skills and expensive price). who needs 3rd arty gen anyway? ps: Zhukov's price only equal to 3750 medals.
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Post by eeeeef on Feb 7, 2021 10:36:12 GMT
Hello everybody. There were so many argues here about which artillery general we should buy besides Konev. So there are only two decent candidates: Zhukov and Leeb (I think that my love Govorov is too weak for Modern War unfortunately same as Zhang Z.Z.) But what is actually better option for p2w players: buying Zhukov or approx. 10000 medals for that money instead which I could immediately invest in buying and upgrading Leeb? IMO upgraded Leeb can be almost same strong as upgraded Zhukov(plain + rumor vs art. barrage + crossfire + explosive + 1 art. star), but I can be wrong.. I use Arnold on rockets now but I really want a second artillery gen. There are only 4 Arty Gen that worth to buy in the game 1. Konev, the best arty gen (useful to infantry invasion too) 2. Leeb, best buy arty gen after Konev. Useful from the beginning till the end. 3. Arnold, cheapest Rumor gen. One of the best Air Gen. 4. Zhukov. Not that worth but his stats and skills are great. beside that 4, the other arty gen aren't worth to buy, include Govorov (6 arty stars don't make him good because of his skills and expensive price). who needs 3rd arty gen anyway? ps: Zhukov's price only equal to 3750 medals. What happened to Zhang? He's pretty decent.
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Post by George Rudi on Feb 7, 2021 10:47:12 GMT
What happened to Zhang? He's pretty decent. He's quite good, better than Govorov (at least for me), but: - he's more expensive than Leeb, - crossfire is meh for arty gen, - limit gen slot, no one should use 3 or more pure arty gen, whether in campaign or conquest.
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Post by George Rudi on Feb 7, 2021 11:00:34 GMT
the only path i know for arty gen, based on my experience and guide from this forum is
buy Leeb as your 1st arty gen/ dont buy Leeb if you already bought Zhukov. Buy Konev with 40% off. Max Konev, later for Leeb. Buy Arnold if you need more rumor gen/ you are ready for air gen.
There's only 6 gen slots in campaign (3 Tanks, 2 arty, 1 Navy/Rumor) and 8 slots in conquest (you may go 5 tanks, but cant go more than 3 for arty, because you also need Navy gen)
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Post by Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim on Feb 7, 2021 21:46:28 GMT
Hello everybody. There were so many argues here about which artillery general we should buy besides Konev. So there are only two decent candidates: Zhukov and Leeb (I think that my love Govorov is too weak for Modern War unfortunately same as Zhang Z.Z.) But what is actually better option for p2w players: buying Zhukov or approx. 10000 medals for that money instead which I could immediately invest in buying and upgrading Leeb? IMO upgraded Leeb can be almost same strong as upgraded Zhukov(plain + rumor vs art. barrage + crossfire + explosive + 1 art. star), but I can be wrong.. I use Arnold on rockets now but I really want a second artillery gen. Contrary to many on this forum, I prefer Govorov to Leeb. He is slower but does more dmg. Rumor is unnecessary as you will already have 3 rumor gens, so he can have Art Barrage (Superior to Art Leader because I prefer a little 1/3 the time regularly to a little more 1/3 of the time periodically), Jungle fighting (Superior to PF because of extra defense), and explosives (Superior to rumor because you should have 3 rumor gens by now), and instead of extra movement, extra attack. Around same HP and only prob;em is cost. Govorov is the best for MW. Well, I changed my mind after your words. Let’s just compare them face to face. 6 art stars > 5 art stars obviously Jungle fighting (+37.5 in forests with medal) >> Plain fighting (+25 in planes because the medal goes to Konev) Explosives > Rumor because I have 4 generals with rumor and it’s more than enough imo so one more rumor on general is just a waste. Accuracy = Accuracy Artillery barrage << Artillery leader (the only point where I’m disagree with you. To be honest nobody let their rockets to be heavily attacked by the enemy ) To sum up, Govorov looks more preferable if you have enough rumor generals so I see no reasons to buy Leeb.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 7, 2021 23:53:09 GMT
Contrary to many on this forum, I prefer Govorov to Leeb. He is slower but does more dmg. Rumor is unnecessary as you will already have 3 rumor gens, so he can have Art Barrage (Superior to Art Leader because I prefer a little 1/3 the time regularly to a little more 1/3 of the time periodically), Jungle fighting (Superior to PF because of extra defense), and explosives (Superior to rumor because you should have 3 rumor gens by now), and instead of extra movement, extra attack. Around same HP and only prob;em is cost. Govorov is the best for MW. Well, I changed my mind after your words. Let’s just compare them face to face. 6 art stars > 5 art stars obviously Jungle fighting (+37.5 in forests with medal) >> Plain fighting (+25 in planes because the medal goes to Konev) Explosives > Rumor because I have 4 generals with rumor and it’s more than enough imo so one more rumor on general is just a waste. Accuracy = Accuracy Artillery barrage << Artillery leader (the only point where I’m disagree with you. To be honest nobody let their rockets to be heavily attacked by the enemy ) To sum up, Govorov looks more preferable if you have enough rumor generals so I see no reasons to buy Leeb. Art Barrage is useful in Modern War as your arty will inevitably be greatly damaged. Also, Leeb Wins speedwise
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Post by journeykeen on Feb 8, 2021 15:01:32 GMT
If you do not have 3-4 rumor generals than certainly Leeb. If you do have 3-4 and you want to speedrun the game or have plenty of disposable income to spend, then Zhukov.
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Post by George Rudi on Feb 8, 2021 16:04:44 GMT
If you do not have 3-4 rumor generals than certainly Leeb. If you do have 3-4 and you want to speedrun the game or have plenty of disposable income to spend, then Zhukov. let them enjoy how good Govorov in the modern war. 🤭 and once more, rumor is best to use in arty gen, because of their no retaliate attack. In campaign, rumor gen is never a waste. Oops, it's two.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 8, 2021 16:07:16 GMT
If you do not have 3-4 rumor generals than certainly Leeb. If you do have 3-4 and you want to speedrun the game or have plenty of disposable income to spend, then Zhukov. let them enjoy how good Govorov in the modern war. 🤭 and once more, rumor is best to use in arty gen, because of their no retaliate attack. In campaign, rumor gen is never a waste. Oops, it's two. I have used all of the main second arty gens (Govorov, Zhang, and Leeb, even Badoglio) in Modern War and I am most impressed with how Govorov is.
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Post by Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim on Feb 8, 2021 22:18:42 GMT
If you do not have 3-4 rumor generals than certainly Leeb. If you do have 3-4 and you want to speedrun the game or have plenty of disposable income to spend, then Zhukov. let them enjoy how good Govorov in the modern war. 🤭 and once more, rumor is best to use in arty gen, because of their no retaliate attack. In campaign, rumor gen is never a waste. Oops, it's two. Do I really need 5 rumor gens?
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Post by George Rudi on Feb 8, 2021 23:20:16 GMT
Do I really need 5 rumor gens? For campaign? Yes. For conquest (speedruns)? 3 (tank, arty, navy) is enough.
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Post by George Rudi on Feb 8, 2021 23:23:17 GMT
I have used all of the main second arty gens (Govorov, Zhang, and Leeb, even Badoglio) in Modern War and I am most impressed with how Govorov is. Wow, i didn't know how to use Govorov corectly then.
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Post by journeykeen on Feb 9, 2021 1:25:39 GMT
let them enjoy how good Govorov in the modern war. 🤭 and once more, rumor is best to use in arty gen, because of their no retaliate attack. In campaign, rumor gen is never a waste. Oops, it's two. Do I really need 5 rumor gens? Not including Arnold, as I never used him in campaign, I only had three rumor gens and I have all hard UN 3 starred. They are Guderian, Rommel, and Konev
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