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Post by zink on Mar 24, 2021 19:09:38 GMT
Bruh OBVIOUSLY heavy tanks are going to be better than medium tanks Yes, and you only need a heavy tanker. You can get just Rommel. I find no use outside medium tanks for Guderian, and I dislike medium tanks. Okay, outside a Africa Guderian is gonna deal more damage than Rommero Are you playin around without usin medium tanks effectively? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 19:09:56 GMT
Rommel has about the same output but he's squishy and slow. Wha Slow? My man has 3 in mobility OK maybe slow was unfair but he is very, VERY squishy |
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Post by zink on Mar 24, 2021 19:10:05 GMT
Rommel has about the same output but he's squishy and slow. *cough* panzer leader and same movement *cough* Also, what does squishy mean? Means low survivability |
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Post by Amazing on Mar 24, 2021 19:10:10 GMT
No, that's Vasilevsky. They both have a useless skill: Logistic and Ace Forces respectively. Both of their damage outputs are too conditional for consistent damage: Crits and Stacks respectively. I feel like you should be able to control stacks? I feel like you cannot control crits? With Vasilevsky I usually know if he is going to kill a unit or not. I like that fact and espically on the Allies side thus most of my generals don't rely on chance. Again, I think Vasilevsky is overpriced and also overrated but he wasn't on the list or he'd probably be in the top 3 as well considering it takes a specific style to use him. Obviously if you play Vasilevsky like you would Yamashita then things will go horribly wrong.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 19:11:12 GMT
Rommel has about the same output but he's squishy and slow. *cough* panzer leader and same movement *cough* Also, what does squishy mean? No Survivablity whatsoever. Frikin LEOPOLD can outlast Rommel in the right situation. Not to mention outside of Africa Rommel's damage dips. |
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Post by zink on Mar 24, 2021 19:25:34 GMT
Woah man fightin fire with fire ain't gonna put out the fire Hey I'm just sayin do you want Saltin to take down another cool thread? I wouldn't really call this a "cool" thread |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 24, 2021 19:26:38 GMT
Hey I'm just sayin do you want Saltin to take down another cool thread? I wouldn't really call this a "cool" thread More like the exact opposite actually, this thread has been a battleground ever since it was conceived. |
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Post by Saltin on Mar 25, 2021 8:53:49 GMT
Ok a few posts got removed, mainly off topic and then quotations of off topics. Last post has some truth to it though, I quote: "...<snip> ..This thread has been a battleground ever since it was conceived" Posting Battleground is ok, we are all players here and we all love to compete, including having the most convincing arguments and posts but we also have to draw a line somewhere so as to be somewhat civil towards one another or else this is going to escalate to the infamous "Might Makes Right" and we then go pick up knives and axes and stuff right? Let's not do that guys, let's reboot the thread and steer it back to its original course. If you feel someone is getting out of line do not confront that person or insult them or be rude to them or put them on the spot or tell them to be silent or anything like that. Do not mini mod, we have moderators to do that, just send the staff a note or make a report and we will intervene if warranted. That's all people, back to your regular scheduled battleground. |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 25, 2021 12:03:58 GMT
Great! Now I can continue being sad and confused as to why people hate monty and roko  . |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Mar 25, 2021 13:02:31 GMT
Great! Now I can continue being sad and confused as to why people hate monty and roko . Rokossovsky is arguably outclassed by his peers in certain aspects would be the argument. As for Monty, besides his utility in grinding Medals, his mild to moderate level of survivability (Mechanist), Leader, *s and movement, he probably lacks the offensive edge. |
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Post by Amazing on Mar 25, 2021 13:18:32 GMT
Great! Now I can continue being sad and confused as to why people hate monty and roko . I don't think people hate monty and roko. I think its just once you start trying to perfect clear 1945, you'll realize that Vatutin and Patton are clearly the better depending on your playstyle. (Patton for Mediums/Vatutin for Heavies). You think they are great and when you use them for the early campaigns you don't notice but come the later campaigns you realize that there are better options and thus they are over-rated (Thus the debate/topic of the thread). I did a few runs of Burma Campaign (THE Damage Check of the game so far) out of boredom to ensure a good guide and play-tested these tank generals. The thing is Tide of Iron is clearly better than Panzer as you killing a unit gives you about the same chance of attacking again. Except with Vatutin on the KV6, you know you will kill one unit, with the other 3 you won't. That's the difference. I also clearly understand Patton is a Medium Tank Guy, its not my playstyle and I REALLY dislike Medium Tanks, even more so on the allies side of things but I'm not so narrow sighted to understand a good Medium Tank player can make wonders with Patton. Again, if Antarctica comes out and Vatutin can no longer one-shot stuff, I reserve the right to change my opinion. I'd probably go (in that order) S Tier - Vatutin, Patton A Tier - Roko, Timo, Monty. |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 25, 2021 13:21:57 GMT
Great! Now I can continue being sad and confused as to why people hate monty and roko . I don't think people hate monty and roko. I think its just once you start trying to perfect clear 1945, you'll realize that Vatutin and Patton are clearly the better depending on your playstyle. (Patton for Mediums/Vatutin for Heavies). You think they are great and when you use them for the early campaigns you don't notice but come the later campaigns you realize that there are better options and thus they are over-rated (Thus the debate/topic of the thread). I did a few runs of Burma Campaign (THE Damage Check of the game so far) out of boredom to ensure a good guide and play-tested these tank generals. The thing is Tide of Iron is clearly better than Panzer as you killing a unit gives you about the same chance of attacking again. Except with Vatutin on the KV6, you know you will kill one unit, with the other 3 you won't. That's the difference. I also clearly understand Patton is a Medium Tank Guy, its not my playstyle and I REALLY dislike Medium Tanks, even more so on the allies side of things but I'm not so narrow sighted to understand a good Medium Tank player can make wonders with Patton. Again, if Antarctica comes out and Vatutin can no longer one-shot stuff, I reserve the right to change my opinion. I'd probably go (in that order) S Tier - Vatutin, Patton A Tier - Roko, Timo, Monty. I disagree with alot of what you just said but I understand where you're coming from. Iguess me and stoic's play style just enable monty and roko to really shine. |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 25, 2021 13:22:12 GMT
I don't think people hate monty and roko. I think its just once you start trying to perfect clear 1945, you'll realize that Vatutin and Patton are clearly the better depending on your playstyle. (Patton for Mediums/Vatutin for Heavies). You think they are great and when you use them for the early campaigns you don't notice but come the later campaigns you realize that there are better options and thus they are over-rated (Thus the debate/topic of the thread). I did a few runs of Burma Campaign (THE Damage Check of the game so far) out of boredom to ensure a good guide and play-tested these tank generals. The thing is Tide of Iron is clearly better than Panzer as you killing a unit gives you about the same chance of attacking again. Except with Vatutin on the KV6, you know you will kill one unit, with the other 3 you won't. That's the difference. I also clearly understand Patton is a Medium Tank Guy, its not my playstyle and I REALLY dislike Medium Tanks, even more so on the allies side of things but I'm not so narrow sighted to understand a good Medium Tank player can make wonders with Patton. Again, if Antarctica comes out and Vatutin can no longer one-shot stuff, I reserve the right to change my opinion. I'd probably go (in that order) S Tier - Vatutin, Patton A Tier - Roko, Timo, Monty. I disagree with alot of what you just said but I understand where you're coming from. I guess me and stoic's play style just enable monty and roko to really shine. |
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Post by stoic on Mar 25, 2021 13:33:08 GMT
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Post by stoic on Mar 25, 2021 13:47:28 GMT
Just our of curiosity I did it again and again   |
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