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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 16, 2021 23:03:22 GMT
My man really put Badoglio a whole rank above Leeb Curved him to pink. I didn’t consider end game capabilities of leeb.
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Mar 17, 2021 1:53:34 GMT
I bought Leeb first and I have had no regrets. Bagdolio, to be honest, hits like a wet noodle and can't even hit more than once without special forces. He is not worth his cost and should be skipped for more worth while gens like Kesselring, Guderian and de Gaulle.
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 17, 2021 1:56:20 GMT
I bought Leeb first and I have had no regrets. Bagdolio, to be honest, hits like a wet noodle and can't even hit more than once without special forces. He is not worth his cost and should be skipped for more worth while gens like Kesselring, Guderian and de Gaulle. I want to hear your take on De Gaulle.
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Post by John Marston on Mar 17, 2021 2:00:11 GMT
My man really put Badoglio a whole rank above Leeb Curved him to pink. I didn’t consider end game capabilities of leeb. What about Naval generals? They aren't much needed in ET games and I assume this one too. A naval/x hybrid might be enough, which is a major setback for them. I am talking about Donitz.
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 17, 2021 2:02:32 GMT
Curved him to pink. I didn’t consider end game capabilities of leeb. What about Naval generals? They aren't much needed in ET games and I assume this one too. A naval/x hybrid might be enough, which is a major setback for them. I am talking about Donitz. You'll need naval gens for the Pacific campaign.
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Mar 17, 2021 2:04:02 GMT
HangryBird, my take on de Gaulle is similar to Gerd von Rundstedt. He is a very good, if not THE best support gen of all. His damage is decent for a gen that has no skills for a specific unit type and works well with a group of units. I have played him in Conquest mode and he doesn't decrease the morale on his own, the morale decreases once other units have hit it. Not only that but he is also (I believe) in 3/5 campaigns, which is equal to Monty. The only downside is his cost, which is pretty expensive. He definitly isn't a starter gen but once you have a decent set-up, he is pretty necessary for the end-game (being in 3/5 campaigns) and he can syneergise excellently with say Monty or Patton.
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Post by John Marston on Mar 17, 2021 2:04:11 GMT
What about Naval generals? They aren't much needed in ET games and I assume this one too. A naval/x hybrid might be enough, which is a major setback for them. I am talking about Donitz. You'll need naval gens for the Pacific campaign. Is he absolutely necessary? A hybrid isn't enough?
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 17, 2021 2:04:24 GMT
Yeah, also disagree about Leeb vs Badoglio. First, 3* vs 4* and important skill. Second, Economics is useless. Just absolute garbage. It should provide at least twice as much in order to be viable. For now, it's almost nothing. Moreover normally You can't afford keeping arty which is very important on the battlefield inside the city. And yes, he has 1* additional movement but if You plan to utilize Economics.. who cares? Would be OK with air gen, not a battlefield gen. Economics is pretty mediocre in campaigns and conquests but have you considered that economics is active 100% of the time in army group? An average army group run last around 25 turns in that time badoglio contributes 190 economy if you deploy him turn 1 which is not that hard condition to fulfill. Long story short he's a game changer in army group that makes grinding there alot easier.
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 17, 2021 2:05:07 GMT
HangryBird, my take on de Gaulle is similar to Gerd von Rundstedt. He is a very good, if not THE best support gen of all. His damage is decent for a gen that has no skills for a specific unit type and works well with a group of units. I have played him in Conquest mode and he doesn't decrease the morale on his own, the morale decreases once other units have hit it. Not only that but he is also (I believe) in 3/5 campaigns, which is equal to Monty. The only downside is his cost, which is pretty expensive. He definitly isn't a starter gen but once you have a decent set-up, he is pretty necessary for the end-game (being in 3/5 campaigns) and he can syneergise excellently with say Monty or Patton. Remind me how much morale rumor does again?
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Mar 17, 2021 2:09:31 GMT
HangryBird , my take on de Gaulle is similar to Gerd von Rundstedt . He is a very good, if not THE best support gen of all. His damage is decent for a gen that has no skills for a specific unit type and works well with a group of units. I have played him in Conquest mode and he doesn't decrease the morale on his own, the morale decreases once other units have hit it. Not only that but he is also (I believe) in 3/5 campaigns, which is equal to Monty. The only downside is his cost, which is pretty expensive. He definitly isn't a starter gen but once you have a decent set-up, he is pretty necessary for the end-game (being in 3/5 campaigns) and he can syneergise excellently with say Monty or Patton. Remind me how much morale rumor does again? It isn't calculated exactly, bu if you see the difference of attacj between a unit at normal morale and one at purple morale.
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 17, 2021 2:13:02 GMT
Remind me how much morale rumor does again? It isn't calculated exactly, bu if you see the difference of attacj between a unit at normal morale and one at purple morale. It reduces 5 at lvl2, we haven't a lvl1 version since there isn't any, lvl1 desperate reduces 5 morale as well, inspiration increases 5 morale every turn. That sounds a little mediocre to me.
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 17, 2021 2:14:30 GMT
Remind me how much morale rumor does again? It isn't calculated exactly, bu if you see the difference of attacj between a unit at normal morale and one at purple morale. Also inspiration stops just before you reach 80, aka the threshold for the happy light eagle to show up.
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 17, 2021 2:20:49 GMT
You'll need naval gens for the Pacific campaign. Is he absolutely necessary? A hybrid isn't enough? Yes if you want to have a easy time perfect clearing 1942, 1945? Not so much.
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Post by Don Quixote de la Mancha on Mar 17, 2021 2:24:53 GMT
It isn't calculated exactly, bu if you see the difference of attacj between a unit at normal morale and one at purple morale. Also inspiration stops just before you reach 80, aka the threshold for the happy light eagle to show up. I think Rumour stacks with Desperation so it quickly descends from normal morale to a easily destructable unit. But as I have said, de Gaulle is at his best as a support unit. Him with Monty or even just say Leclerc can tear trhiugh armies.
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 17, 2021 2:26:14 GMT
Also inspiration stops just before you reach 80, aka the threshold for the happy light eagle to show up. I think Rumour stacks with Desperation so it quickly descends from normal morale to a easily destructable unit. But as I have said, de Gaulle is at his best as a support unit. Him with Monty or even just say Leclerc can tear trhiugh armies. KV-6 Monty and Katyusha Govorov can tear through enemies more easily.
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