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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 28, 2021 14:53:18 GMT
Rundstedt is slow af but is much better in combat than Yamashita. But since Rundstedt is such a turtle, using him on anything but cavarly or transports is impossible.
Yamashita meanwhile has a useless skill (samurai) but higher average damage and much better movement.
Who is better?
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Post by zink on Mar 28, 2021 16:36:43 GMT
Now idk about yall plunder supply kinda sux, apparently it's not 12% of its total hp but instead 12% of 1 stack so you'll only gain 13 hp on infantry 
  Thats means plunder supply is less useful than logistics! Now comparing Fire suppression & guerilla is hard since one is a fixed 40% reduction and the other is a 1/2 chance full damage reduction If we test it lets say 10 times and if guerilla activated 5 times it would win out, but its rng so it can be better or worse Basically do you trust your luck or not, same with the fixed 12 vs 24% chance for second attack |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 28, 2021 17:15:46 GMT
Now idk about yall plunder supply kinda sux, apparently it's not 12% of its total hp but instead 12% of 1 stack so you'll only gain 13 hp on infantry
Thats means plunder supply is less useful than logistics! Now comparing Fire suppression & guerilla is hard since one is a fixed 40% reduction and the other is a 1/2 chance full damage reduction If we test it lets say 10 times and if guerilla activated 5 times it would win out, but its rng so it can be better or worse Basically do you trust your luck or not, same with the fixed 12 vs 24% chance for second attack I myself also noticed that plunder supplies was quite mediocre. However, infantry leader alone is arguably better than both of yamashita’s skills. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 28, 2021 17:18:27 GMT
Also Rundstedt is the only axis infantry leader regardless. Even if he is a turtle, he still absolutely wrecks in combat
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Post by zink on Mar 28, 2021 17:31:31 GMT
I myself also noticed that plunder supplies was quite mediocre. However, infantry leader alone is arguably better than both of yamashita’s skills. An infantry general without any survivability skills is going to die pretty dang quick |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 28, 2021 17:47:23 GMT
I myself also noticed that plunder supplies was quite mediocre. However, infantry leader alone is arguably better than both of yamashita’s skills. An infantry general without any survivability skills is going to die pretty dang quick Thats why Eisenhower kind of sucks |
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Post by zink on Mar 28, 2021 17:50:52 GMT
An infantry general without any survivability skills is going to die pretty dang quick Thats why Eisenhower kind of sucks But dat 50+ doe |
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Post by andrei on Mar 28, 2021 17:56:07 GMT
An infantry general without any survivability skills is going to die pretty dang quick Thats why Eisenhower kind of sucks You must be kidding. Extra 20 attack for infantry unit over any competitor! Have You ever tried him to say that? He is ahead of any other infantry general in the game with unbelievable gap. No one even close to his performance. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 28, 2021 18:04:51 GMT
Thats why Eisenhower kind of sucks You must be kidding. Extra 20 attack for infantry unit over any competitor! Have You ever tried him to say that? He is ahead of any other infantry general in the game with unbelievable gap. No one even close to his performance. I have him personally. The aura and 5 infantry stars are nice. But the rest of his skills... meh. He also dies so freaking fast. He gets outshined by Macarthur and Rundstedt very easily. |
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Post by andrei on Mar 28, 2021 18:10:12 GMT
You must be kidding. Extra 20 attack for infantry unit over any competitor! Have You ever tried him to say that? He is ahead of any other infantry general in the game with unbelievable gap. No one even close to his performance. I have him personally. The aura and 5 infantry stars are nice. But the rest of his skills... meh. He also dies so freaking fast. He gets outshined by Macarthur and Rundstedt very easily. That's nonsense. Absolutely any infantry gen dies fast in case You are not replinishing him in time. Neither Mac skills nor Rundstedt skills provide extra survivability when being attacked. And that is exactly the time when Your infantry suffers 90% of the damage as You (as a player) will never attack the opponent that can cripple Your infantry general. So Your argument about the skills is not valid. |
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Post by STILETT0 on Mar 28, 2021 18:43:11 GMT
I myself also noticed that plunder supplies was quite mediocre. However, infantry leader alone is arguably better than both of yamashita’s skills. An infantry general without any survivability skills is going to die pretty dang quick hmmmmmm....why is Yamashita preferred over Runstedt in pretty much every Easytech game he's in? Maybe it's because Yamashita has more survivability, and that's one of the main traits a good infantry general needs???? |
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Post by andrei on Mar 28, 2021 18:46:53 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus I made testing right now. 5-7 attacks with every general. Here are the screens:      Summary: Rundstedt is the worst among them. First, Rundstedt can't reach the target in time. Second, his output in this testing was the lowest. Rundstedt 45-63 damage. 63 crit Yamashita 53-85 damage. 85 crit Eisenhower 64-102 damage. 102 crit As You can see hp loss difference is marginal. While being attacked they will recieve same amount of damage.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 28, 2021 19:56:39 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus I made testing right now. 5-7 attacks with every general. Here are the screens: Summary: Rundstedt is the worst among them. First, Rundstedt can't reach the target in time. Second, his output in this testing was the lowest. Rundstedt 45-63 damage. 63 crit Yamashita 53-85 damage. 85 crit Eisenhower 64-102 damage. 102 crit As You can see hp loss difference is marginal. While being attacked they will recieve same amount of damage. Infantry leader tho. Rundstedt can attack multiple times (I have seen it trigger 4x consecutively). Eisenhower can’t. I said kinda sux. He isn’t terrible, but for 7$ he leaves a lot to be desired compared to Zhukov and Manstein. |
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Post by zink on Mar 28, 2021 20:20:28 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus I made testing right now. 5-7 attacks with every general. Here are the screens: Summary: Rundstedt is the worst among them. First, Rundstedt can't reach the target in time. Second, his output in this testing was the lowest. Rundstedt 45-63 damage. 63 crit Yamashita 53-85 damage. 85 crit Eisenhower 64-102 damage. 102 crit As You can see hp loss difference is marginal. While being attacked they will recieve same amount of damage. Infantry leader tho. Rundstedt can attack multiple times (I have seen it trigger 4x consecutively). Eisenhower can’t. I said kinda sux. He isn’t terrible, but for 7$ he leaves a lot to be desired compared to Zhukov and Manstein. Then again it's chance, I dislike anecdotal stuff like that since that also requires luck |
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Post by andrei on Mar 28, 2021 21:29:11 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus I made testing right now. 5-7 attacks with every general. Here are the screens: Summary: Rundstedt is the worst among them. First, Rundstedt can't reach the target in time. Second, his output in this testing was the lowest. Rundstedt 45-63 damage. 63 crit Yamashita 53-85 damage. 85 crit Eisenhower 64-102 damage. 102 crit As You can see hp loss difference is marginal. While being attacked they will recieve same amount of damage. Infantry leader tho. Rundstedt can attack multiple times (I have seen it trigger 4x consecutively). Eisenhower can’t. I said kinda sux. He isn’t terrible, but for 7$ he leaves a lot to be desired compared to Zhukov and Manstein. Infantry leader is not such a good skill. Right now when I was testing Rundstedt I made like 5 attacks or something and it never triggered. But whatever. Even in case it triggers after such 4x consequtive attacks You will probably need to go for replenishment. Whether it is good? I doubt. At least what I do with my infantry general is I am trying to flank enemies, to attack infantry/artillery somewhere on the flanks or capture/hold cities/factories. At least that's my playstyle. I don't know what is the purpose of Your infantry but infantry leader can't be very good because of its unreliability. It could be much better particularly with Rundstedt because of the Fire suppression, true. But still it is pure luck whether it triggers or not and when exactly. So completely unreliable for planning Your strategy/tactics on the map. |
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