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Post by Port on Mar 30, 2021 22:34:39 GMT
In Pacific 1945 campaigns we have 2 Heavy tanks at our disposal more often than we don't have them... In 6 out of 8 axis missions we can make use of 2 heavy tanks. And the same is true for Allies as well: 5 missions out of 8. So, instead of asking ourselves: "who is better while commanding medium tanks?" I would rather ask another question: "who is better while commanding my second heavy tank?" But I always use at least 3 tank generals stoic. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 31, 2021 0:00:22 GMT
In Pacific 1945 campaigns we have 2 Heavy tanks at our disposal more often than we don't have them... In 6 out of 8 axis missions we can make use of 2 heavy tanks. And the same is true for Allies as well: 5 missions out of 8. So, instead of asking ourselves: "who is better while commanding medium tanks?" I would rather ask another question: "who is better while commanding my second heavy tank?" But I always use at least 3 tank generals stoic. Why, Port? Personally, for that exact reason, I find Guderian overrated. However, he is the best choice of a second heavy Tanker for the axis (Rundstedt will always be infantry), although (I would say) not the best buy, purely because there are really no other choices. Bock? No output. Graziani? Possible, but Bad. Hoth? Count me out. Heinrici? Possible, but Bad. I would use Grazi or Heinrici because they are reasonably good and 400 and 630 medals cheaper than Guderian respectively. However these Gens are definitely after you get one of each other unit, except perhaps air. |
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 0:01:53 GMT
But I always use at least 3 tank generals stoic . Why, Port ? Personally, for that exact reason, I find Guderian overrated. However, he is the best choice of a second heavy Tanker for the axis (Rundstedt will always be infantry), although (I would say) not the best buy, purely because there are really no other choices. Bock? No output. Graziani? Possible, but Bad. Hoth? Count me out. Heinrici? Possible, but Bad. I would use Grazi or Heinrici because they are reasonably good and 400 and 630 medals cheaper than Guderian respectively. However these Gens are definitely after you get one of each other unit, except perhaps air. Very obviously, you have Yamashita for Infantry and Rundstedt for tanks. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 31, 2021 0:07:15 GMT
Why, Port ? Personally, for that exact reason, I find Guderian overrated. However, he is the best choice of a second heavy Tanker for the axis (Rundstedt will always be infantry), although (I would say) not the best buy, purely because there are really no other choices. Bock? No output. Graziani? Possible, but Bad. Hoth? Count me out. Heinrici? Possible, but Bad. I would use Grazi or Heinrici because they are reasonably good and 400 and 630 medals cheaper than Guderian respectively. However these Gens are definitely after you get one of each other unit, except perhaps air. Very obviously, you have Yamashita for Infantry and Rundstedt for tanks. Yamashita is an inferior gen. |
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 0:08:00 GMT
Very obviously, you have Yamashita for Infantry and Rundstedt for tanks. Yamashita is an inferior gen. Well if you need a heavy tanker that badly. |
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Post by stoic on Mar 31, 2021 2:53:02 GMT
In Pacific 1945 campaigns we have 2 Heavy tanks at our disposal more often than we don't have them... In 6 out of 8 axis missions we can make use of 2 heavy tanks. And the same is true for Allies as well: 5 missions out of 8. So, instead of asking ourselves: "who is better while commanding medium tanks?" I would rather ask another question: "who is better while commanding my second heavy tank?" But I always use at least 3 tank generals stoic. Good for you  Imo, Heavy Tanks in combination with heavy Artillery are a key to success. There are, of course, many types of battles. In some of them both tanks and Artillery are less effective. But such battles are rare. |
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Post by Amazing on Mar 31, 2021 8:41:58 GMT
Well, at least some of our Infantry SF should be really good to beat all these units    I love how you pick screenshots which suit you case but doesn't tell the actual story, even joke in hand  For that mission, just for everyone else who doesn't get the joke if you haven't reached it, you could use 3 unranked anything and still win. But to your point as well, I did all of United Front AND most of the Army Groups (I don't mind those modes actually, I find them semi-fun on occasions) AAAANNNDD still didn't have enough Badges to upgrade all of the Special Forces he listed, thus my comment. @ Grigory Kulik , you should really clean up that part, since Badge management is equally important as medal management. I also agree with Stoic mostly that the KV6, Maus, Katyusha and Elefant are the most important Special Forces, then followed by the Panther and then the Infantry so if you are prioritizing, that's the way you should go. On a sidenote, I would personally not max the T28 (since as Special Forces go, he is one of the worse ones as you'd always go Katyusha and not ALL missions run 2 heavies) which will save you a total of 500+ badges which you can get nearly 3 infantry maxed but I do understand why he does it. I also almost never run 2 Allied Tank Generals unless I don't have a choice. So there is that. I tend to just put Timo on my 2nd Heavy Tank if I have no other alternative options, in respond to your question of "who is better commanding my 2nd heavy tank" |
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Post by stoic on Mar 31, 2021 10:07:58 GMT
Well, at least some of our Infantry SF should be really good to beat all these units I love how you pick screenshots which suit you case but doesn't tell the actual story, even joke in hand For that mission, just for everyone else who doesn't get the joke if you haven't reached it, you could use 3 unranked anything and still win. But to your point as well, I did all of United Front AND most of the Army Groups (I don't mind those modes actually, I find them semi-fun on occasions) AAAANNNDD still didn't have enough Badges to upgrade all of the Special Forces he listed, thus my comment. @ Grigory Kulik , you should really clean up that part, since Badge management is equally important as medal management. I also agree with Stoic mostly that the KV6, Maus, Katyusha and Elefant are the most important Special Forces, then followed by the Panther and then the Infantry so if you are prioritizing, that's the way you should go. On a sidenote, I would personally not max the T28 (since as Special Forces go, he is one of the worse ones as you'd always go Katyusha and not ALL missions run 2 heavies) which will save you a total of 500+ badges which you can get nearly 3 infantry maxed but I do understand why he does it. I also almost never run 2 Allied Tank Generals unless I don't have a choice. So there is that. I tend to just put Timo on my 2nd Heavy Tank if I have no other alternative options, in respond to your question of "who is better commanding my 2nd heavy tank" As I said Timoshenko can be actually a hidden gem in Antarctica... On a side note, two final Antarctic missions in GoG classic were more difficult for Allies than for Germans. And predominantly there were heavy tanks and Artillery. It is, of course, a guesswork, but I think we'll have something similar to it in GoG3 as well.. So, I won't be surprised that 3 tank generals are needed... |
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 11:17:06 GMT
But I always use at least 3 tank generals stoic . Good for you Imo, Heavy Tanks in combination with heavy Artillery are a key to success. There are, of course, many types of battles. In some of them both tanks and Artillery are less effective. But such battles are rare. Well at least in endgame, Pacific 1942 is the only exception but Rokossovsky is really bad there because there are no heavy tanks. Use Vatutin instead. Guderian is really good in Pacific 1942. |
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Post by stoic on Mar 31, 2021 11:23:20 GMT
Good for you Imo, Heavy Tanks in combination with heavy Artillery are a key to success. There are, of course, many types of battles. In some of them both tanks and Artillery are less effective. But such battles are rare. Well at least in endgame, Pacific 1942 is the only exception but Rokossovsky is really bad there because there are no heavy tanks. Use Vatutin instead. Guderian is really good in Pacific 1942. The question is what is more important - to have an advantage at the beginning or late in the game. I think the latter is more important, because usually players don't have many problems with beating campaigns up to midgame. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 11:53:49 GMT
I find Guderian OP.
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Post by stoic on Mar 31, 2021 11:59:02 GMT
I don't have anything against Guderian. He can be very good when commanding Heavy tanks as well. In any duel with another heavy tank Commander he has a definite advantage. |
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 12:06:43 GMT
Well at least in endgame, Pacific 1942 is the only exception but Rokossovsky is really bad there because there are no heavy tanks. Use Vatutin instead. Guderian is really good in Pacific 1942. The question is what is more important - to have an advantage at the beginning or late in the game. I think the latter is more important, because usually players don't have many problems with beating campaigns up to midgame. You need both. That is why you should not buy Rokossovsky early. Buy Vatutin early. |
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Post by Grigory Kulik on Mar 31, 2021 15:54:05 GMT
Port , Vatutin has 0 move stars. His anti armor skill is also not maxed. I am not sure if I would recommend him to f2p players unless they absolutely can not acquire more medals for a better general.
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 15:55:04 GMT
Port , Vatutin has 0 move stars. His anti armor skill is also not maxed. I am not sure if I would recommend him to f2p players unless they absolutely can not acquire more medals for a better general. But he is easy to use and *shock* , has Maxed Tide of Iron and one star over Rokossovsky. |
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