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Post by STILETT0 on May 9, 2021 14:47:15 GMT
I will be doing a sort of series here, where looking at just certain names of streets in New Orleans will explain a lot of history, like the creation of the Higgins Boat, Colonial Louisiana, and this city's internal struggle of distancing themselves from the CSA.
A lot of these are notes I took on a book that does pretty much this same thing: "Frenchmen Desire Good Children" by John Churchill Chase.
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Post by STILETT0 on May 9, 2021 15:13:39 GMT
The first one we will be looking at is the infamous "Canal Street" This USED to be the main thouroughfare through New Orleans, until the Hard Rock Hotel collapse in november 2019. The street name is actually a misnomer. This was never a Canal. It was planned to be. The officials ordered that there be a wide median between both sides of the street as to accommodate a Canal. Then the New Basin Canal was built, and there was no longer any need for this gigantic hole in the ground, so it was ordered to be filled in. Prior to the Hard Rock Hotel Crash, it housed 4 of the few remaining streetcar lines in the city. Now all of them are cut short at the intersection of Canal and Basin/Rampart. Canal Street was the epicenter of the history in New Orleans after the Louisiana Purchase. During The Antebellum Period, this was where many bilingual shops were opened, for this was the "Neutral Ground" between the American populated "Uptown" on the West Side Of Canal Street, and the French Creole populated French Quarter and Marigny on the East Side. You will also find that street names change when going over Canal. Magazine turns into Decatur, Lasalle turns into Marais, and sometimes the names don't necessarily change. On the West side of Canal there is S. Claiborne. On the East Side of Canal, there's N. Claiborne. Canal also became a large part for demonstrations during the Reconstruction (Post Civil War) and Redemption (Rutherford Hayes' presidency-1957) The Mechanics' Institute Riot was one of the most violent protests in history up to that point, when an angry mob of white supremacists stormed the Mechanics' Institute (Now the Roosevelt Hotel) to get at the Black Senators inside. There was also the "Battle Of Liberty Place." outside of the Customs House (Now the Insectarium). There was actually an obelisk erected to commemorate the white supremacists who clashed with the police. It was removed in the 1980s to a less conspicuous location at the corner of O'Keefe and Union, until it was removed by an embarrassed city council.
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Post by John Marston on May 11, 2021 6:50:01 GMT
Since I haven't got much to say STILETT0, how come you got the time when you are shredding tax documents and vacating your house?
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Post by STILETT0 on May 11, 2021 23:59:50 GMT
Since I haven't got much to say STILETT0 , how come you got the time when you are shredding tax documents and vacating your house? I'm pretty smooth like that ;)
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Post by STILETT0 on May 18, 2021 0:27:50 GMT
I would like to give y’all an idea on what my city is going through right now. Darth Vader talked about being historically accurate on the Civil War, and it hit closer to home than I expected. Many streets are being renamed, and many streets should be renamed. Some I agree with, and some I don’t. They had just changed Jeff Davis Pkwy to Norman C. Francis Pkwy They will change Robert E. Lee Blvd. to something else. They should change Gov. Nicholls St. (a very racist person) to something less terrible. They are also changing the names of many schools. One of them is Lusher Charter school. A prestigious school in the Uptown part of New Orleans. While I more or less agree on Lusher, I disagree with some of the other school name changings: (my school among them) All of the McDonough schools. John McDonough gave a massive grant to the Louisiana school system, and the education system here would be worse off than it was today if it wasn’t for him. Benjamin Franklin High School. The best school in the entire state’s name is about to be changed because the man it was named after owned two slaves (he later went on to be an abolitionist). If we go by these petty grounds, then Dwight D. Eisenhower should be censored for his Darlan Deal. Woodrow Wilson should be defaced for the invention of interventionism. Hell, why not even go with Barack Obama on this one as well? All in all, what the city is doing is good, but they are blaming too many crimes on some who only made mistakes. In all essence, Robert E Lee joined the Confederacy beacuse Virginia joined the Confederacy, yet it still shows my city’s racist past by naming an extremely busy street thousands of miles away from Virginia, after the military mastermind behind the Confederacy. There are also streets honoring this city’s heroes: Farragut Street: Liberation Of New Orleans from the CSA Banks Street: I honestly hate him Jackson Square: One of the most contested monuments in the city. He did more bad than good, yet it attracts a massive amount of tourists, being on every single postcard you get, and tourists are our only source of income these days. an image of the Jeff Davis monument that was removed The Beauregard monument was on a pedestal literally two block from the Art Museum. It is also a streetcar terminal. One of the more controversial monuments, as it is revering the dude who started the Civil War The last one shows the cost of simply renaming BFHS's building
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Post by STILETT0 on May 18, 2021 0:30:47 GMT
anyway, I understand I am treading some sensitive ground here. I apologize for any feelings I have hurt.
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Post by John Marston on May 18, 2021 6:06:36 GMT
STILETT0, you're making good use of google earth
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 18, 2021 12:21:26 GMT
STILETT0, for decades Beuregard has been an image of the NOLA style. He has honestly moved from his historical persona into more of a symbol, at least from my studies other Civil War. And technically, no general is the one who starts a war, but rather the leaders.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 18, 2021 12:23:59 GMT
Also, for Andrew Jackson, there is no denying that he is one of the heroes of NO. I believe that he was a decent prez, created a populist movement in America. I think he was a horrible person. But an excellent prez.
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Post by STILETT0 on May 18, 2021 12:34:58 GMT
Also, for Andrew Jackson, there is no denying that he is one of the heroes of NO. I believe that he was a decent prez, created a populist movement in America. I think he was a horrible person. But an excellent prez. he did spend his entire life fighting Indians, so I guess we all know where his bias comes from. P.G.T. Beauregard is not a sign we want to keep, though, and he was the one who ordered the firing on Ft. Sumter, though at that time everyone knew that war was inevitable. Can we not replace that sign with something else, like Newton C. Blanchard, or David Farragut? (Anything besides Nathaniel Banks lol), what about O'Reilly or Galvez? There so many things we could choose from that is not a man who actively fought for the enslavement of other humans.
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Post by STILETT0 on May 18, 2021 12:35:44 GMT
STILETT0 , you're making good use of google earth I was going to go out and take the photos myself, but neh, there's a pandemic going on.
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Post by John Marston on May 18, 2021 12:38:55 GMT
STILETT0 , you're making good use of google earth I was going to go out and take the photos myself, but neh, there's a pandemic going on. Tehc you know
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 18, 2021 13:03:44 GMT
Also, for Andrew Jackson, there is no denying that he is one of the heroes of NO. I believe that he was a decent prez, created a populist movement in America. I think he was a horrible person. But an excellent prez. he did spend his entire life fighting Indians, so I guess we all know where his bias comes from. P.G.T. Beauregard is not a sign we want to keep, though, and he was the one who ordered the firing on Ft. Sumter, though at that time everyone knew that war was inevitable. Can we not replace that sign with something else, like Newton C. Blanchard, or David Farragut? (Anything besides Nathaniel Banks lol), what about O'Reilly or Galvez? There so many things we could choose from that is not a man who actively fought for the enslavement of other humans. LOL, do it on Benjamin Butler!
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Post by STILETT0 on May 18, 2021 13:05:25 GMT
he did spend his entire life fighting Indians, so I guess we all know where his bias comes from. P.G.T. Beauregard is not a sign we want to keep, though, and he was the one who ordered the firing on Ft. Sumter, though at that time everyone knew that war was inevitable. Can we not replace that sign with something else, like Newton C. Blanchard, or David Farragut? (Anything besides Nathaniel Banks lol), what about O'Reilly or Galvez? There so many things we could choose from that is not a man who actively fought for the enslavement of other humans. LOL, do it on Benjamin Butler! Both Banks and Butler suck. Butler lowered the status of many New Orleans women to simply prostitutes, Banks failed the Red River Campaign miserably because he was too busy buying cotton and sugar off of planters.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 18, 2021 13:28:07 GMT
LOL, do it on Benjamin Butler! Both Banks and Butler suck. Butler lowered the status of many New Orleans women to simply prostitutes, Banks failed the Red River Campaign miserably because he was too busy buying cotton and sugar off of planters. I know Butler was a horrible person. Heck, he was a States Rights, slavery is a right, only-in-the-union-because-I-think-secession-is-wrong!
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