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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 12, 2021 15:01:35 GMT
From my experience, rokossovsky does more damage consistently, For me, Montgomerys PL rarely triggers. I could say the same thing about Roko. In my first Kursk run to get the KV-6, he got a reset twice.
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Post by idunnowhattocallthis on May 12, 2021 15:12:50 GMT
I did Say IMO, also ace forces is effectively worthless once you have max tech, and machinist is not a damage skill.
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Post by Joseph Stalin on May 12, 2021 16:36:29 GMT
So.... Who is the best Ally H T general? Rokossovsky, Montys and Rokossovskys machinist are useless.( I never spend my cash on HT because it is very expensive, just give 3 of your inf an anti- tank or motorized. So to my logic Monty has only one usefull skill and that is PL. Roko has it too but roko has anti-armor thus he is better than Monty.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 12, 2021 17:29:26 GMT
So.... Who is the best Ally H T general? Rokossovsky, Montys and Rokossovskys machinist are useless.( I never spend my cash on HT because it is very expensive, just give 3 of your inf an anti- tank or motorized. So to my logic Monty has only one usefull skill and that is PL. Roko has it too but roko has anti-armor thus he is better than Monty. Machinist for Monty is basically a harder to use Leadership, which is a great skill for heavies.
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Post by Joseph Stalin on May 12, 2021 17:37:28 GMT
Rokossovsky, Montys and Rokossovskys machinist are useless.( I never spend my cash on HT because it is very expensive, just give 3 of your inf an anti- tank or motorized. So to my logic Monty has only one usefull skill and that is PL. Roko has it too but roko has anti-armor thus he is better than Monty. Machinist for Monty is basically a harder to use Leadership, which is a great skill for heavies. I dont know why but I almost never heal my tanks or arty. Healing Inf, giving SF and launching airstrikes seems like a better choice. In challenge mode roko is better due to this.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 18:03:58 GMT
So.... Who is the best Ally H T general? Monty. You underestimate the power of Gold Machinist. YOU underestimate the Power of Anti-Armour. Not to mention, Roko's PL is WAY more consistent. I had it trigger 6 CONSECUTIVE TIMES in the Battle of Imphal. I used Monty in Italian Campaign and wasn't that impressed. His damage is inconsistent, his PL NEVER TRIGGERS and he gets outclassed by A FRICKING DEFAULT!!!! In short, Roko is my preference but you do you.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 12, 2021 18:08:23 GMT
Monty. You underestimate the power of Gold Machinist. YOU underestimate the Power of Anti-Armour. Not to mention, Roko's PL is WAY more consistent. I had it trigger 6 CONSECUTIVE TIMES in the Battle of Imphal. I used Monty in Italian Campaign and wasn't that impressed. His damage is inconsistent, his PL NEVER TRIGGERS and he gets outclassed by A FRICKING DEFAULT!!!! In short, Roko is my preference but you do you. There is no way that one PL can be more consistent than another of the same level. I had his PL trigger 8 times in a turn, also in the Jungles of Burma, but in "War in India and Myanmar."
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Post by eeeeef on May 12, 2021 18:12:51 GMT
Monty. You underestimate the power of Gold Machinist. YOU underestimate the Power of Anti-Armour. Not to mention, Roko's PL is WAY more consistent. I had it trigger 6 CONSECUTIVE TIMES in the Battle of Imphal. I used Monty in Italian Campaign and wasn't that impressed. His damage is inconsistent, his PL NEVER TRIGGERS and he gets outclassed by A FRICKING DEFAULT!!!! In short, Roko is my preference but you do you. @vonmanstein77 logic: 24% > 24%
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Post by Alexyx on May 12, 2021 18:17:14 GMT
My eyes bleed, my brain shrunk from reading this *Auto Corrected*
"Monty PL triggered always compared to Rokossovsky"
Both have exactly 69,6% to double strike on HT (assuming they destroy an unit, 24% otherwise), where 9,6% (or 24% if they didn't destroy the unit) comes from PL skill. As you can see they are the same. It is just a matter of luck which one triggers more often.
Machinist is useless for reasons: -In AG when you can afford HTs, you can also afford the repair cost (and it's mostly buying new unit) -In Conquest you can afford everything -In Challenge and UF problem does not apply -In Campaign it could be somewhat useful, but still the main goal is not to have to replenish HT. Leadership is better because you always want to increase the unit's size due to more dmg, survivability and more usefulness overall. Replenishing is just an objectively worse way to spend your resources, useful only to keep your units alive.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 18:18:53 GMT
Everyone- Fighting whether Monty or Roko is better
*Sad Vatutin Noises.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 18:19:27 GMT
YOU underestimate the Power of Anti-Armour. Not to mention, Roko's PL is WAY more consistent. I had it trigger 6 CONSECUTIVE TIMES in the Battle of Imphal. I used Monty in Italian Campaign and wasn't that impressed. His damage is inconsistent, his PL NEVER TRIGGERS and he gets outclassed by A FRICKING DEFAULT!!!! In short, Roko is my preference but you do you. @vonmanstein77 logic: 24% > 24% It's just down to luck I suppose.
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Post by eeeeef on May 12, 2021 18:22:07 GMT
@vonmanstein77 logic: 24% > 24% It's just down to luck I suppose. The matter of best allied heavy tank is all up to personal preference really.
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Post by Alexyx on May 12, 2021 19:24:38 GMT
Everyone- Fighting whether Monty or Roko is better *Sad Vatutin Noises. He is painfully slow. Packs a punch though
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Post by 曹操 on May 12, 2021 22:53:54 GMT
Monty is actually better than both roko and Vatutin. He is a great infantry killer thanks for his PL which always triggered compared to Rokossovsky. And His output against panzer units is only less lower than both roko and Vatutin. More over he got 50% Machinist which reduce your spend on replenishing units compared to vatutin and Roko. Also his 3 air star which sometimes will be useful. Also, do you know why my patton average output using medium tanks always similar to De gaulle average output using M Tanks "thanks for his PL which always triggered compared to Rokossovsky" what's different between Monty's PL and Roko's one? Whenever is used Roko,Rommel and Monty. Monty's PL is always triggered, Roko and Rommel is a tie since both rarely triggered their PL. My Monty PL usually triggered 3-5 times. Roko and Rommel 1-3 times
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Post by Alexyx on May 12, 2021 23:09:24 GMT
Once again- it's random chance. They are absolutely the same. You could try to manipulate everyone by attacking on correct frames, but that's not doable.
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