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Post by resiphius on Jul 6, 2023 16:17:20 GMT
I was building the EC-tank currently ,but Feature shop having Katukov and Bittrich . Should i keep building EC or use the medals for featured generals? Only if you desperately need tank and/or air general, and don’t even think about buying them as replacement for existing generals. |
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Post by daemon on Jul 6, 2023 19:13:29 GMT
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 8, 2023 1:06:49 GMT
Erich von Manstein , Guderian , Govorov , 1 Tank EC (in building) and Sansonetti F2Players Have you made up your mind on your third EC? Unless you will definitely make him a tank one as well, get Katukov. And then pause your tank EC for now and start building an artillery EC. Bittrich is good, but he can wait. |
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Post by daemon on Jul 8, 2023 2:39:04 GMT
Erich von Manstein , Guderian , Govorov , 1 Tank EC (in building) and Sansonetti F2Players Have you made up your mind on your third EC? Unless you will definitely make him a tank one as well, get Katukov. And then pause your tank EC for now and start building an artillery EC. Bittrich is good, but he can wait. Haven't decided on what Third EC would be considering that medal is scarce . For Tank-EC and Artillery-EC , Tide and Barrage is needed ? Since you mentioned to go for Ace Commander and drop Tide . Bittrich before Third Tank and Do Air Force Commander reduce paradrop cost? Should it do that maybe going to favor Bittrich over Goring (Goring is tankier and Inf-Air probably would just hole up in city or go crack city like Sansonetti ) |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 8, 2023 14:51:06 GMT
Haven't decided on what Third EC would be considering that medal is scarce . For Tank-EC and Artillery-EC , Tide and Barrage is needed ? Since you mentioned to go for Ace Commander and drop Tide . Bittrich before Third Tank and Do Air Force Commander reduce paradrop cost? Should it do that maybe going to favor Bittrich over Goring (Goring is tankier and Inf-Air probably would just hole up in city or go crack city like Sansonetti ) Do not drop tide. Generals will often (in fact more often than not) be at below half hp in later challenge conquests and operations. You do not want to lose half your damage. Go for a tide-blitz-explosives-ace commander build, then as your 5th skill you can do plains or inspiring or something else. If you already have 2-3 endgame tank generals you won't need to build a third EC yet. I've only been using Guderian and Katukov and I have 300 conquest points. Ace Force Commander decreases the price for all air stuff including paratroopers. Bittrich is better than Goring as long as you give him a decent air medal to compensate for his lack of a 5th star. |
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Post by jonblend on Jul 9, 2023 11:41:09 GMT
Haven't decided on what Third EC would be considering that medal is scarce . For Tank-EC and Artillery-EC , Tide and Barrage is needed ? Since you mentioned to go for Ace Commander and drop Tide . Bittrich before Third Tank and Do Air Force Commander reduce paradrop cost? Should it do that maybe going to favor Bittrich over Goring (Goring is tankier and Inf-Air probably would just hole up in city or go crack city like Sansonetti ) Do not drop tide. Generals will often (in fact more often than not) be at below half hp in later challenge conquests and operations. You do not want to lose half your damage. Go for a tide-blitz-explosives-ace commander build, then as your 5th skill you can do plains or inspiring or something else. That is also my experience. But I would need a refresher on damage calculation, is total damage cut by half or is is just the unit's damage? (skills and stars not being touched by HP effect) |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 9, 2023 16:00:51 GMT
Have you made up your mind on your third EC? Unless you will definitely make him a tank one as well, get Katukov. And then pause your tank EC for now and start building an artillery EC. Bittrich is good, but he can wait. Haven't decided on what Third EC would be considering that medal is scarce . For Tank-EC and Artillery-EC , Tide and Barrage is needed ? Since you mentioned to go for Ace Commander and drop Tide . Bittrich before Third Tank and Do Air Force Commander reduce paradrop cost? Should it do that maybe going to favor Bittrich over Goring (Goring is tankier and Inf-Air probably would just hole up in city or go crack city like Sansonetti ) Get Barrage because artillery generals have available slots. Get Tide for now because you don't have Ace yet. Once you can afford Ace, sub Tide out. Bittrich reduces the cost of everything launches from an airport, but not a missile silo. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 9, 2023 16:02:24 GMT
Do not drop tide. Generals will often (in fact more often than not) be at below half hp in later challenge conquests and operations. You do not want to lose half your damage. Go for a tide-blitz-explosives-ace commander build, then as your 5th skill you can do plains or inspiring or something else. That is also my experience. But I would need a refresher on damage calculation, is total damage cut by half or is is just the unit's damage? (skills and stars not being touched by HP effect) When the HP drops by half, the unit's damage, the general's star bonus will be reduced by 1/4. My guess is medal bonus will reduce as well. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 9, 2023 16:04:22 GMT
Haven't decided on what Third EC would be considering that medal is scarce . For Tank-EC and Artillery-EC , Tide and Barrage is needed ? Since you mentioned to go for Ace Commander and drop Tide . Bittrich before Third Tank and Do Air Force Commander reduce paradrop cost? Should it do that maybe going to favor Bittrich over Goring (Goring is tankier and Inf-Air probably would just hole up in city or go crack city like Sansonetti ) Do not drop tide. Generals will often (in fact more often than not) be at below half hp in later challenge conquests and operations. You do not want to lose half your damage. Go for a tide-blitz-explosives-ace commander build, then as your 5th skill you can do plains or inspiring or something else. If you already have 2-3 endgame tank generals you won't need to build a third EC yet. I've only been using Guderian and Katukov and I have 300 conquest points. Ace Force Commander decreases the price for all air stuff including paratroopers. Bittrich is better than Goring as long as you give him a decent air medal to compensate for his lack of a 5th star. Why would you sacrifice Plain for Tide? If we have a sixth slot I would certainly keep Tide, but I think Blitz and Inspiring are more useful. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 9, 2023 16:28:38 GMT
Why would you sacrifice Plain for Tide? If we have a sixth slot I would certainly keep Tide, but I think Blitz and Inspiring are more useful. My argument for tide is that you'll very often find yourself below half hp in Cold War challenge conquests, which is where you'll be spending most of your time. Expropriation isn't gonna be very useful if you're only doing 35 damage per turn, and lack of tide is what keeps Patton from being a top 2 tank general. Inspiring only activates 20% of the time, and then only increases your damage by 16, so you'll only really be seeing something like a +8 net damage boost (assuming you attack twice per turn and morale boosts last for two turns) |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 10, 2023 0:57:52 GMT
Why would you sacrifice Plain for Tide? If we have a sixth slot I would certainly keep Tide, but I think Blitz and Inspiring are more useful. My argument for tide is that you'll very often find yourself below half hp in Cold War challenge conquests, which is where you'll be spending most of your time. Expropriation isn't gonna be very useful if you're only doing 35 damage per turn, and lack of tide is what keeps Patton from being a top 2 tank general. Inspiring only activates 20% of the time, and then only increases your damage by 16, so you'll only really be seeing something like a +8 net damage boost (assuming you attack twice per turn and morale boosts last for two turns) Assume 26-50% HP and no Inspiring. Ace and Plain can already provide 60, the stars give 21, the unit itself gives another 31. Is 112 not enough? |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 10, 2023 2:46:37 GMT
Assume 26-50% HP and no Inspiring. Ace and Plain can already provide 60, the stars give 21, the unit itself gives another 31. Is 112 not enough? Isn't 112 a full-hp value? Below half you'd be around 60 and below 25% (which is where you'll spend lots of time after getting nuked) you'd be at 30 or so. With tide you'd be at 84 and 54 respectively. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 10, 2023 4:47:09 GMT
Assume 26-50% HP and no Inspiring. Ace and Plain can already provide 60, the stars give 21, the unit itself gives another 31. Is 112 not enough? Isn't 112 a full-hp value? Below half you'd be around 60 and below 25% (which is where you'll spend lots of time after getting nuked) you'd be at 30 or so. With tide you'd be at 84 and 54 respectively. 112 is the minimum damage at half HP. 25% HP would be 112-10-7=95. Assuming lvl 2 Expropriation, that's 19 HP regen per hit. Ace and Plain aren't affected by HP. That's 60 guaranteed right there. If there's a good number of weaker units, we should be able to make more than 2 hits per turn to keep morale high. |
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Post by daemon on Jul 10, 2023 9:13:35 GMT
It seem like I would need a Third Artillery Slot What third artillery Gen should i aimed for (3rd EC-Artillery and 3rd Tank for Katukov) or (Sivo & 3rd EC as Tank)?
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 10, 2023 11:46:51 GMT
It seem like I would need a Third Artillery Slot What third artillery Gen should i aimed for (3rd EC-Artillery and 3rd Tank for Katukov) or (Sivo & 3rd EC as Tank)? The latter. Don't make a second EC artillery. |
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