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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 9, 2016 22:41:22 GMT
Dom, you're forgetting one of the worst overlook happening right here in America and every single nation ever in history all over the world. The Deaf. Hmm maybe I should make a new thread about this. But think about it, most of the time, a Deaf person who knows the sign language (of his country) would also be bilingual because he must know the local language of his country to be a functional adult. So on the average, the Deaf population has a extremely high percentage of bilingual persons in comparison to the paltry percentage found in the hearing population. Think twice every time you see a Deaf person.  We are still one of the worst nations in the world when it comes to bilingualism, whether deaf people can learn it more easily or not. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jun 9, 2016 22:45:46 GMT
During the cold war, the world was under a bi-polar (not bipolar) global system: USA vs USSR. Everything is changing now toward a multi-polar system with rising powers from different parts of the world coming into power. Other than USA, the premier powers of the globe is known as an acronym: BRICS. Those five are highly likely to be part of the next generation of a multi-polar world. Brazil Russia India China South Africa EU can only become a true power as the 7th pole of the multi-polar system if they consolidate into a single state, otherwise... it's a meaningless rabble (such as pre-British India full of petty kingdoms and empires). Those 7 areas would determine what languages would be important in international business and cooperation. While I agree with most of the choices for BRICS, I think the original acronym of BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) is much more fitting. S. Africa is a power, but I don't think it will be as strong as Brazil or India. I do think that if Nigeria is able to deal with Boko Haram successfully, however, they could easily stand on par with the other great powers of the world. So I think maybe it should be BRICN? xD Not to forget Indonesia, a very large powerhouse in SE Asia and can probably become a great power as well in the world. My List of who will be the great powers of the next generation: China India Russia America Brazil Nigeria Indonesia Nigeria still has infrastructure that is sub-par, if I'm not mistaken. Plus the even more deplorable state of infrastructure, industrial capacity, and medical care in its neighbors. I don't see Nigeria rising to be a world power too soon |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jun 9, 2016 22:47:20 GMT
Dom, you're forgetting one of the worst overlook happening right here in America and every single nation ever in history all over the world. The Deaf. Hmm maybe I should make a new thread about this. But think about it, most of the time, a Deaf person who knows the sign language (of his country) would also be bilingual because he must know the local language of his country to be a functional adult. So on the average, the Deaf population has a extremely high percentage of bilingual persons in comparison to the paltry percentage found in the hearing population. Think twice every time you see a Deaf person. We are still one of the worst nations in the world when it comes to bilingualism, whether deaf people can learn it more easily or not. That's generally true. I'm just saying that American Sign Language really should take a spot in the foreign language classes. Seeing as 10% of any general population is a person with some (can vary) amount of hearing loss, that would certainly be important. Rochester, NY... about a 2 hours drive from your home probably has almost 25% Deaf population due to the university Rochester Institute of Technology and the school Rochester School for the Deaf. |
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Post by Bismarck on Jun 9, 2016 23:33:39 GMT
Just read Donald Trump sued someone for billions of USD for printing a biography about him.
I wish I had that money.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 23:53:58 GMT
During the cold war, the world was under a bi-polar (not bipolar) global system: USA vs USSR. Everything is changing now toward a multi-polar system with rising powers from different parts of the world coming into power. Other than USA, the premier powers of the globe is known as an acronym: BRICS. Those five are highly likely to be part of the next generation of a multi-polar world. Brazil Russia India China South Africa EU can only become a true power as the 7th pole of the multi-polar system if they consolidate into a single state, otherwise... it's a meaningless rabble (such as pre-British India full of petty kingdoms and empires). Those 7 areas would determine what languages would be important in international business and cooperation. While I agree with most of the choices for BRICS, I think the original acronym of BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) is much more fitting. S. Africa is a power, but I don't think it will be as strong as Brazil or India. I do think that if Nigeria is able to deal with Boko Haram successfully, however, they could easily stand on par with the other great powers of the world. So I think maybe it should be BRICN? xD Not to forget Indonesia, a very large powerhouse in SE Asia and can probably become a great power as well in the world. My List of who will be the great powers of the next generation: China India Russia America Brazil Nigeria Indonesia Wait a sec Brazil is nowhere near India or China in any category except oil and gas. And if you put Nigeria here Poland is much bigger fish and where do you leave Turkey and Ukraine they are economically as strong as Germany, that is why they are not a part of EU as Germany wouldn't be a great economical power anymore. And Russia is losing its power |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Jun 9, 2016 23:57:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 0:07:15 GMT
It won't be as there is India, China and Japan already in region |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 10, 2016 0:10:42 GMT
A. Have you seen their special ops? They're some of the best in the world. B. Population. Indonesia is one of the highest ranking countries in the world when it comes to Population. C. Resources. Lots of oil. 'Nuff said. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jun 10, 2016 0:15:10 GMT
While I agree with most of the choices for BRICS, I think the original acronym of BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) is much more fitting. S. Africa is a power, but I don't think it will be as strong as Brazil or India. I do think that if Nigeria is able to deal with Boko Haram successfully, however, they could easily stand on par with the other great powers of the world. So I think maybe it should be BRICN? xD Not to forget Indonesia, a very large powerhouse in SE Asia and can probably become a great power as well in the world. My List of who will be the great powers of the next generation: China India Russia America Brazil Nigeria Indonesia Wait a sec Brazil is nowhere near India or China in any category except oil and gas. And if you put Nigeria here Poland is much bigger fish and where do you leave Turkey and Ukraine they are economically as strong as Germany, that is why they are not a part of EU as Germany wouldn't be a great economical power anymore. And Russia is losing its power I don't know what Dom would say. My biggest criteria is population of a power. I'm not saying sheer numbers decides everything. Population (especially an educated population) is still a part of the requirements for a nation to become a global power notheless. Let's compare Israel and Russia. Both has nuclear capabilities, both has strong scientific communities, both do have an interest in geopolitics and will pursuit a strong military to ensure national security, and both economics can be fairly strong (times always waxes and wanes, Russia will be back soon enough) with respectable infrastructure. One thing... Israel will never become a global superpower because it lacks the population to become one. Russia has all of the requirements. A leading power needs those in all eras: -Scientific superiority (it only has to be relative, not absolute to suffice) -Better infrastructure than majority of world -Strong interest in military matters (so it wouldn't be a pushover for any grubby mini-nation) -population (for everything, population is a multiplier effect) -eventually a strong army and navy (doesn't have to be absolutely number one in the world) And in modern times: nuclear weapons as well. You have to realize that Brazil DO have almost all of these. Even nuclear weapons is a possibility in the near future. Brazil has a scientific community of enough scientists and knowledge to develop a nuclear program. Look up for countries that do have this... Brazil is near the top of the list of those countries who haven't gotten a nuclear program yet. They do have a scientific community that's developing along well in all kind of fields. And in the economy of the future, the biggest commodity is knowledge. The further advanced a nation is, the stronger the economy it will posses in relative comparison to others. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jun 10, 2016 0:15:40 GMT
A. Have you seen their special ops? They're some of the best in the world. B. Population. Indonesia is one of the highest ranking countries in the world when it comes to Population. C. Resources. Lots of oil. 'Nuff said. You have me at Oil and population |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 10, 2016 0:16:23 GMT
While I agree with most of the choices for BRICS, I think the original acronym of BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) is much more fitting. S. Africa is a power, but I don't think it will be as strong as Brazil or India. I do think that if Nigeria is able to deal with Boko Haram successfully, however, they could easily stand on par with the other great powers of the world. So I think maybe it should be BRICN? xD Not to forget Indonesia, a very large powerhouse in SE Asia and can probably become a great power as well in the world. My List of who will be the great powers of the next generation: China India Russia America Brazil Nigeria Indonesia Wait a sec Brazil is nowhere near India or China in any category except oil and gas. And if you put Nigeria here Poland is much bigger fish and where do you leave Turkey and Ukraine they are economically as strong as Germany, that is why they are not a part of EU as Germany wouldn't be a great economical power anymore. And Russia is losing its power About Brazil, people in areas like the U.K and France were probably saying the same things about the USA when we were going through our industrial revolution. Brazil is currently going through their own industrial revolution, and when its over, Brazil will emerge a superpower. I guarantee it. All of the European countries you mentioned are weak compared to other countries in the other world except maybe Turkey. Poland may be industrially active, but they are nowhere near becoming a superpower, Ukraine...how about we wait for them after the war with Russia is over... Nigeria has one of the highest populations in the world, and with lots and lots of oil. They just need to get some infrastructure and industry going and they'll be super powerful. Uhhh, Russia? Are you joking? They are on par with the USA in terms of nukes, military they are extremely powerful, and industrially they are strong. |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 10, 2016 0:23:45 GMT
Now I have an idea for a TW or RP:
It takes place modern day (only there are no conflicts, no terrorists, etc. etc. We want to avoid conflict in this forum, after all). And you want to become top dog of the world or remain it. There would be four different types of nations:
1: Current Powers: These nations include countries like China, America and Russia. they are currently very powerful but can get knocked out.
2: Secondary Powers: Brazil, India, etc. These countries can easily become superpowers.
3: Old superpowers: GB, France, Germany etc. these countries used to be great, but are now second rate powers. It would be difficult to bring them back to their former glory.
4: Everyone else: Everyone Else: Pretty difficult to make them succeed.
Superpower rank would be based off of nukes you have (You can't use them tho), your military size, population, industry, infrastructure, etc. This is just a framework.
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Post by Desophaeus on Jun 10, 2016 0:26:27 GMT
A. Have you seen their special ops? They're some of the best in the world. B. Population. Indonesia is one of the highest ranking countries in the world when it comes to Population. C. Resources. Lots of oil. 'Nuff said. You have me at Oil and population Poor scientific aspects tho, as the largest Islamic country in the world, it could easily become radicalized and descend into a dark age of ignorance. If they every decided to declare a jihad, they could get pounded real hard by countries legitimately afraid of their own security. China, Australia, Japan, America, and even India would felt threatened in response to an Indonesia becoming hostile in the region. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jun 10, 2016 0:35:58 GMT
All of this talks on global powers makes me want to recommend a very good book I enjoyed. Recommended reading on this subject (actually the WHOLE era from 1400AD to 2000AD) Rise and Fall of The Great Powers By Paul Kennedy It did have a really in-depth chapter on WW1, and pretty much an in-depth chapter on each of the wars from 1400 onward to roughly modern-day now. Wonder if anyone else had ever read it too? |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 10, 2016 0:44:27 GMT
You have me at Oil and population Poor scientific aspects tho, as the largest Islamic country in the world, it could easily become radicalized and descend into a dark age of ignorance. If they every decided to declare a jihad, they could get pounded real hard by countries legitimately afraid of their own security. China, Australia, Japan, America, and even India would felt threatened in response to an Indonesia becoming hostile in the region. Simply because its predominantly muslim doesn't mean it could quickly be radicalized. It is a very stable country and the state does not favor muslims over others. |
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