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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 11:01:05 GMT
I have a feeling this will soon convert to a flame war. Nah far from that. |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 10, 2016 11:29:36 GMT
Russia is still in the top ten highest population list. Brazil will become a superpower, i guarantee it. India and Pakistan have nukes, and the other countries never wanted them to have those. Economically and militarily, idk about that. I think they could stand on par with the other powers. Why do you keep bringing up Poland? They would never be strong enough in the near future, neither could Australia or Canada. Turkey and Japan tho, possibly. The only issue with Poland is that they need nukes. Japan if they get their military back in feet will be greater power than Russia and their population is bigger than Russia's, but the difference is few million people. Nigeria, if it gets its rebel issues situated and if they get their infrastructure up, i guarantee they can become a superpower by 2050. Brazil...ive already given my evidence, but you keep rejecting it soooooo. Oil is still incredibly important nowadays, America got incredibly strong due to our oil boom, after all. Europe is not going to be as strong as other powers now. I doubt Poland would ever be as strong as other countries, or Ukraine. Maybe Turkey. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Jun 10, 2016 13:01:38 GMT
Australia is an importan regional power, although we will never be a super power we will always be an important power in the South Pacific. I disagree about Indonesia, they have low infrastructure and are very overcrowded. You men biomes thier special forces? I don't believe Indonesia has that good special forces (better than many by not in the top 10). On the topic of special forces in no particular order I think the best are the SAS, SASR, Sheyat 13, J2TF (Or whatever the Canadian one is called), SSG, GROM, EKO Cobra, The German counter terror one I forgot what it's called and the Indian special forces (again I forget there name).
I also disagree with Nigeria, for the same reasons I disagree with Indonesia and because of there rebel problem. I also disagree with Poland as a great power. Brazil however I agree has the potential to be a great power.
I don't think a large population= greatness because look at all the large population naiosn. Most suffer from low standards if living, poverty and low infrastructure. Yes it can be benificial but I would not mesure powers by there population. And more population does not equal more scientists because many people in high pop countries are uneducated.
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jun 10, 2016 13:06:03 GMT
Population doesn't mean you will become a great power, but i do think it is necessary to be populous if you are going to be as strong as say the USA or Russia.
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Post by Washington on Jun 10, 2016 16:39:45 GMT
Population doesn't mean you will become a great power, but i do think it is necessary to be populous if you are going to be as strong as say the USA or Russia. China? |
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Post by Moreau on Jun 10, 2016 16:43:54 GMT
Population can be an massive advantage if your industry could arm them v
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 17:42:43 GMT
Australia is an importan regional power, although we will never be a super power we will always be an important power in the South Pacific. I disagree about Indonesia, they have low infrastructure and are very overcrowded. You men biomes thier special forces? I don't believe Indonesia has that good special forces (better than many by not in the top 10). On the topic of special forces in no particular order I think the best are the SAS, SASR, Sheyat 13, J2TF (Or whatever the Canadian one is called), SSG, GROM, EKO Cobra, The German counter terror one I forgot what it's called and the Indian special forces (again I forget there name). I also disagree with Nigeria, for the same reasons I disagree with Indonesia and because of there rebel problem. I also disagree with Poland as a great power. Brazil however I agree has the potential to be a great power. I don't think a large population= greatness because look at all the large population naiosn. Most suffer from low standards if living, poverty and low infrastructure. Yes it can be benificial but I would not mesure powers by there population. And more population does not equal more scientists because many people in high pop countries are uneducated. Brazil can't be a superpower as they has too many problems which can't be solved in 20 years like Zita virus. |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jun 10, 2016 18:13:12 GMT
Maybe talk something relevant guys?
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Post by Horatio Nelson on Jun 10, 2016 18:34:24 GMT
Population can be an massive advantage if your industry could arm them v This is the exact case with China lmao, too many d*mn "soldiers", not enough equipment/weapons. |
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Post by Horatio Nelson on Jun 10, 2016 18:35:44 GMT
Maybe talk something relevant guys? Idk, this seems civil enough. It's good to have conversations with a little bit of emotion and opinion as long as it doesn't turn sour. It spices up the forum a little bit. |
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Post by Bismarck on Jun 10, 2016 19:16:41 GMT
Someone can link me to the AoC 2 thread or the developers contact info? I got a bunch of questions about the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 19:28:50 GMT
Someone can link me to the AoC 2 thread or the developers contact info? I got a bunch of questions about the game. His email is in gplay |
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Post by Desophaeus on Jun 10, 2016 20:26:57 GMT
Oskars, you can keep rejecting Brazil all you want to. It doesn't change the fact that Brazil has a better chance of becoming stronger than 180, 185, 190 (or more if including Vatican City or Sealand) other nations on this planet, period.
None of us know the future with certainity but Brazil do have a high population AND a strong scientific community. An educated population is a necessity for a nation to become a superpower. That said, you're right that mere number of heads doesn't determine that alone by itself, but it's a fairly different story when the said high-pop nation has a strong educational background.
So I do agree with you in considering Indonesia and Nigeria as unlikely possibilities. They have too much going against them from the inside.
South Africa would be a far better example than Nigeria with 1. its strong economy (number one in Sub-Saharan Africa), 2. ample post-high school educational opportunities (in comparison to the African nations as a whole, and is actually probably more educated than India by average), 3. not many neighbors in severe distress (example: Ethiopia doesn't look too bad in the present day, but it's struggling with massive swarms of refugees coming from the neighboring South Sudan which puts heavy pressure on their economy and government) and of course, 4. millions of people (who aren't scraping the bottom of a barrel for food), oh and also 5. JOHANNESBURG! It's no London, but it has got the numbers to nearly match even London on the scale of global trading. It's steadily growing and becoming more interconnected to European and American businesses.
I would say Brazil is still stronger than S. Africa here.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jun 10, 2016 20:40:51 GMT
The Republic of Congo! The Electorate of Brandenburg! Australia! Sealand! Vietnam! Saudi Arabia! The Roman Empire! The Romulan Star Empire! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:43:26 GMT
Oskars, you can keep rejecting Brazil all you want to. It doesn't change the fact that Brazil has a better chance of becoming stronger than 180, 185, 190 (or more if including Vatican City or Sealand) other nations on this planet, period. None of us know the future with certainity but Brazil do have a high population AND a strong scientific community. An educated population is a necessity for a nation to become a superpower. That said, you're right that mere number of heads doesn't determine that alone by itself, but it's a fairly different story when the said high-pop nation has a strong educational background. So I do agree with you in considering Indonesia and Nigeria as unlikely possibilities. They have too much going against them from the inside. South Africa would be a far better example than Nigeria with 1. its strong economy (number one in Sub-Saharan Africa), 2. ample post-high school educational opportunities (in comparison to the African nations as a whole, and is actually probably more educated than India by average), 3. not many neighbors in severe distress (example: Ethiopia doesn't look too bad in the present day, but it's struggling with massive swarms of refugees coming from the neighboring South Sudan which puts heavy pressure on their economy and government) and of course, 4. millions of people (who aren't scraping the bottom of a barrel for food), oh and also 5. JOHANNESBURG! It's no London, but it has got the numbers to nearly match even London on the scale of global trading. It's steadily growing and becoming more interconnected to European and American businesses. I would say Brazil is still stronger than S. Africa here. OK Brazil is stronger than a lot of countries, but it has too many issues like Zita, illegal forest cutting, illegal bussines, their only base of power is oil, their army is weak, science is weak in comparison even with any EU country. And there is a lot more.... |
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