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Post by Lucklife on Jul 21, 2021 8:38:09 GMT
Heya, so I've completed the campaign, just looking for an air force general to help me in challenges and conquests. I already have Kesserling, but need another air force general. I'm looking at Dowding, because he seems like a solid Allied air general, with +25 atk, and 10 from carpet bombing. I can also use Dowding on carriers on my replays, although that isn't really necessary, since I've been using Arnold. However, there's also Yamamoto, who has air force cluster in addition to carpet bombing. That's a +35 atk at all times, with +10 from carpet bombing. My only concern is that he doesn't have any infantry abilities, so if I use him in army groups or conquests, he'll be slightly unprotected on an airport. | Yamamoto | Dowding | +20 atk (4 stars)
+15 atk (Airport Cluster)
+10 atk Carpet Bombing
Dive Bombing | +25 atk (5 star)
Paratrooper
+10 atk Carpet Bombing
Dive Bombing | | - No infantry stars | - Lesser Attack |
If you could weigh in with your opinions, that would help greatly, thank you |
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Post by 曹操 on Jul 21, 2021 9:19:58 GMT
Heya, so I've completed the campaign, just looking for an air force general to help me in challenges and conquests. I already have Kesserling, but need another air force general. I'm looking at Dowding, because he seems like a solid Allied air general, with +25 atk, and 10 from carpet bombing. I can also use Dowding on carriers on my replays, although that isn't really necessary, since I've been using Arnold. However, there's also Yamamoto, who has air force cluster in addition to carpet bombing. That's a +35 atk at all times, with +10 from carpet bombing. My only concern is that he doesn't have any infantry abilities, so if I use him in army groups or conquests, he'll be slightly unprotected on an airport. | Yamamoto | Dowding | +20 atk (4 stars)
+15 atk (Airport Cluster)
+10 atk Carpet Bombing
Dive Bombing | +25 atk (5 star)
Paratrooper
+10 atk Carpet Bombing
Dive Bombing | | - No infantry stars | - Lesser Attack |
If you could weigh in with your opinions, that would help greatly, thank you It's depend on you i guess both has pros and cons but i more keen towards dowding tho since he can be a paratroop gen unlike Yamamoto who can only be Naval/Air Gen |
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Post by imkhoa3 on Jul 21, 2021 11:27:28 GMT
Heya, so I've completed the campaign, just looking for an air force general to help me in challenges and conquests. I already have Kesserling, but need another air force general. I'm looking at Dowding, because he seems like a solid Allied air general, with +25 atk, and 10 from carpet bombing. I can also use Dowding on carriers on my replays, although that isn't really necessary, since I've been using Arnold. However, there's also Yamamoto, who has air force cluster in addition to carpet bombing. That's a +35 atk at all times, with +10 from carpet bombing. My only concern is that he doesn't have any infantry abilities, so if I use him in army groups or conquests, he'll be slightly unprotected on an airport. | Yamamoto | Dowding | +20 atk (4 stars)
+15 atk (Airport Cluster)
+10 atk Carpet Bombing
Dive Bombing | +25 atk (5 star)
Paratrooper
+10 atk Carpet Bombing
Dive Bombing | | - No infantry stars | - Lesser Attack |
If you could weigh in with your opinions, that would help greatly, thank you go for yamamoto , airforce cluster > paratrooper+ 1 star air |
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Post by John Marston on Jul 21, 2021 12:00:56 GMT
My pick would be Dowding. You already have an Axis airforce general. You need an Allied one.
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Post by Lucklife on Jul 21, 2021 12:32:26 GMT
What yall have said all makes sense, which is what makes choosing between both generals so hard. They're both kinda good.
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Post by imkhoa3 on Jul 22, 2021 3:50:50 GMT
What yall have said all makes sense, which is what makes choosing between both generals so hard. They're both kinda good. no need for dowding , get halsey instead |
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Post by Lucklife on Jul 22, 2021 5:56:46 GMT
What yall have said all makes sense, which is what makes choosing between both generals so hard. They're both kinda good. no need for dowding , get halsey instead Mmm I'll pass. I have air force cluster on kesserling for challenges, and I want a carpet bombing for making conqeusts easier, hence Dowding or Yamamoto |
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Post by 曹操 on Jul 22, 2021 6:21:10 GMT
no need for dowding , get halsey instead Mmm I'll pass. I have air force cluster on kesserling for challenges, and I want a carpet bombing for making conqeusts easier, hence Dowding or Yamamoto Big map conquest or Army group? If the big map conquest it's better to buy dowding since your economy output is huge also Dowding is cheaper so you can save to buy other general too. If the Army group mode, i suggest buying Yamamoto his Carpet Bombing will be useful since your economy output is low. |
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Post by Lucklife on Jul 22, 2021 7:34:31 GMT
Mmm I'll pass. I have air force cluster on kesserling for challenges, and I want a carpet bombing for making conqeusts easier, hence Dowding or Yamamoto Big map conquest or Army group? If the big map conquest it's better to buy dowding since your economy output is huge also Dowding is cheaper so you can save to buy other general too. If the Army group mode, i suggest buying Yamamoto his Carpet Bombing will be useful since your economy output is low. I'm about to start clearing up the big map conquests, only have a few more army groups to complete. Wouldn't Yamamoto perform just as well as dowding on an airport there, if not better due to the additional 15 atk? |
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Post by jonblend on Jul 22, 2021 10:14:52 GMT
If you already reached challenge Level 10 then there will be only one mission where air force (carrier) generals are needed. It will be difficult until you reach navy tech 5 or have huge health boosts on your navy generals. Kesselring + Dowding (within range) and Kesselring + Yamamoto will perform equally well here.
For conquests, it's all about air force attacks and paratroopers (scout, fighter, airborne only the cities necessary to make the enemy surrender and ignore their army) once you get the hang of it. They can be cleared in 20-30-40 turns depending on your starting location.
Dowding and Yamamoto have the potential to help you with a faster clear but are not needed to pass conquests (since they're rather easy). I suggest you try a few conquests and take note of how often Kesselring is needed as fighting infantry vs air force commander. Or you cloud save and and test each of the generals separately. |
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Post by 曹操 on Jul 22, 2021 10:23:49 GMT
Big map conquest or Army group? If the big map conquest it's better to buy dowding since your economy output is huge also Dowding is cheaper so you can save to buy other general too. If the Army group mode, i suggest buying Yamamoto his Carpet Bombing will be useful since your economy output is low. I'm about to start clearing up the big map conquests, only have a few more army groups to complete. Wouldn't Yamamoto perform just as well as dowding on an airport there, if not better due to the additional 15 atk? Yamamoto will perform better ofc. Buy Dowding if you need to save to buy another general. if not, go for yamamoto he'll be good on challenge mode carrier |
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Post by Lucklife on Jul 22, 2021 12:19:48 GMT
If you already reached challenge Level 10 then there will be only one mission where air force (carrier) generals are needed. It will be difficult until you reach navy tech 5 or have huge health boosts on your navy generals. Kesselring + Dowding (within range) and Dowding + Yamamoto will perform equally well here. For conquests, it's all about air force attacks and paratroopers (scout, fighter, airborne only the cities necessary to make the enemy surrender and ignore their army) once you get the hang of it. They can be cleared in 20-30-40 turns depending on your starting location. Dowding and Yamamoto have the potential to help you with a faster clear but are not needed to pass conquests (since they're rather easy). I suggest you try a few conquests and take note of how often Kesselring is needed as fighting infantry vs air force commander. Or you cloud save and and test each of the generals separately. I know exactly what you mean! I've hit that stage so many times while climbing up and down Challenge 10, and it gets me so frustrated each time! I use Kesserling + Arnold + Monty because I have no other air force gens, but I still fail. Maybe because my only two main navy gens are Nimitz and Nagumo, with the rest being free gens. I've cleared a couple of conquests and gotten the hang of it, but there'll always be one location mid game where you have to confront a ton of the enemies forces to get past. My last experience was playing as Poland, and I met the Spanish horde of troops right along the southern french border. I couldn't parachute anywhere, and that wouldn't do me good since they still had a lot of cities. I had to fight for almost every two squares. My kesserling was busy bombing the balkans, so I just tided through them with normal gens. That made me think that I really needed two air gens, in addition to the challenge stage. But now recalling back on those conquests, Kesserling also did quite a lot of bashing enemy troops when not in an airport. Mmm that's definitely something to think hard on, thank you. Yamamoto will perform better ofc. Buy Dowding if you need to save to buy another general. if not, go for yamamoto he'll be good on challenge mode carrier I'm kind of expecting this to be my last, or second last general. I've gotten all of the essential 4 star gens, and almost perfect cleared all of the campaign, alongside half of the army groups. Soon, I'll be out of easy ways to get those medals, gotta go all out for this one~ |
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Post by jonblend on Jul 22, 2021 16:22:53 GMT
I know exactly what you mean! I've hit that stage so many times while climbing up and down Challenge 10, and it gets me so frustrated each time! I use Kesserling + Arnold + Monty because I have no other air force gens, but I still fail. Maybe because my only two main navy gens are Nimitz and Nagumo, with the rest being free gens. I've cleared a couple of conquests and gotten the hang of it, but there'll always be one location mid game where you have to confront a ton of the enemies forces to get past. My last experience was playing as Poland, and I met the Spanish horde of troops right along the southern french border. I couldn't parachute anywhere, and that wouldn't do me good since they still had a lot of cities. I had to fight for almost every two squares. My kesserling was busy bombing the balkans, so I just tided through them with normal gens. That made me think that I really needed two air gens, in addition to the challenge stage. But now recalling back on those conquests, Kesserling also did quite a lot of bashing enemy troops when not in an airport. Mmm that's definitely something to think hard on, thank you. Hehe  this mission annoyed me so much that I grinded conquests for navy tech lv5 and I got Dowding and Nimitz with my last remaining medals. It's probably overkill but reliably beating the challenge battles was worth it. |
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Post by Lucklife on Jul 24, 2021 2:50:37 GMT
So I tried Yamamoto and Dowding using Britain on a big map conquest. (Cloud saved)
I found out that yes, Yamamoto has an additional 10 attack when hitting infantry, averaging at about 70-75, while Dowding averages at 60-65.
However, when it came to bombing tanks, both of them averaged at 50-55, with no difference at all.
With this, I'm leaning more towards dowding, but I'm more surprised that Yamamoto didn't havr any difference when bombing tanks despite air force cluster
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this mission annoyed me so much that I grinded conquests for navy tech lv5 and I got Dowding and Nimitz with my last remaining medals. It's probably overkill but reliably beating the challenge battles was worth it.
