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Post by lightbringer on Jul 24, 2021 11:32:59 GMT
As I'm going through the challenge mode, there are times I want to have infantry that will have good attack against artillery.
But I only see damage bonuses against infantry or armor. Is artillery considered armor?
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Post by Lucklife on Jul 24, 2021 12:24:31 GMT
No, it isn't. Artillery is artillery.
You can take a look at the Wiking from Axis side and the Suwalska Calvary from the allied side to see effects they have on artillery.
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Post by John Marston on Jul 25, 2021 6:03:31 GMT
Don't forget Mortar troops like Guerilla.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jul 25, 2021 6:45:16 GMT
Don't forget Mortar troops like Guerilla. I guess it's because we don't deploy mortars that often? The above two are more favoured on the battlefield. |
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Post by John Marston on Jul 25, 2021 7:19:49 GMT
Don't forget Mortar troops like Guerilla. I guess it's because we don't deploy mortars that often? The above two are more favoured on the battlefield. Yeah. They are only useful in challenge where the enemy has a lot of artillery |
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Post by randomperson on Jul 25, 2021 17:18:01 GMT
Mortar troops kinda have a bad ability. Ignoring 2 defense from a building isn't very great when compared with the other abilities.
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Post by John Marston on Jul 26, 2021 4:05:56 GMT
Mortar troops kinda have a bad ability. Ignoring 2 defense from a building isn't very great when compared with the other abilities. But it is useful in challenges when the enemy has a lot of artillery. |
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Post by lightbringer on Jul 26, 2021 9:02:54 GMT
How is mortar good vs artillery? Usually they are in the open
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Post by Lucklife on Jul 26, 2021 9:59:35 GMT
How is mortar good vs artillery? Usually they are in the open Exactly, unless an artillery is sitting in a building area, I'll rather use the calvary. How good is it... as good as the calvary but without movement boosts |
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Post by randomperson on Jul 26, 2021 17:21:05 GMT
Let's assume the artillery is sitting in a city center for +2 defense. Let's also assume the artillery has a base of 3 defense (1941 desert). Then, you will do ~7% more damage using the mortar by ignoring the 2 defense. 7% is pretty minuscule when compared with other special forces.
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Post by Lucklife on Jul 26, 2021 17:46:40 GMT
Let's assume the artillery is sitting in a city center for +2 defense. Let's also assume the artillery has a base of 3 defense (1941 desert). Then, you will do ~7% more damage using the mortar by ignoring the 2 defense. 7% is pretty minuscule when compared with other special forces. Don't forget, your guerilla is getting 25% damage reduction from the artillery. Now, apart from the wiking, what would you use against this artillery in a city centre to get more than 7% additional damage? |
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Post by randomperson on Jul 26, 2021 18:56:54 GMT
Let's assume the artillery is sitting in a city center for +2 defense. Let's also assume the artillery has a base of 3 defense (1941 desert). Then, you will do ~7% more damage using the mortar by ignoring the 2 defense. 7% is pretty minuscule when compared with other special forces. Don't forget, your guerilla is getting 25% damage reduction from the artillery. Now, apart from the wiking, what would you use against this artillery in a city centre to get more than 7% additional damage? My Yamashita on a 3-stack infantry on a plain in challenge mode has 51-58 attack. I only have lvl 2 inf tech so let's round up to an average of 60 attack. Then, with non-promoted max level guerilla you get +6 attack. With calvary you get +10 attack. Then, calvary gives 6% more damage (when not in buildings) and guerilla gives ~+1% damage when in a city center/trench. When in an airport/suburban area, calvary has an advantage of ~2% damage. Things I did not consider: Promotion gives +6 attack which changes the 6% more damage to ~5.5% more damage for calvary which is pretty negligible. With a 4-stack infantry the attack goes up by 2-3 which is also negligible. This plus promotion will change 6% to ~5.3%. With challenge level 9 tech enemies, artillery's base defense goes up by 1 to a total of 4. This means that guerilla's advantage in the city is lowered by ~0.7% As you can see, these few things I didn't consider pretty much balance each other out. All in all, I would say calvary has a very slight advantage in damage, but is the superior pick overall because of extra damage to infantry and more speed. |
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