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Post by micky on Aug 9, 2021 17:45:13 GMT
Hello, everyone!
I have been reading this forum for quite a while. And it looks like most of players have nearly the same set of generals for endgame: Guderian, Rommel, Roko (or Manstein if with IAP), Konev, Leeb, Donitz/Nimitz (or both) + some situational generals like Arnold etc. I would like to try to complete the game without these guys. Well, ok, I already have Guderian so it does not apply to him. But is it even possible to complete the game with Zhang + Bradley as arty gens? Or Guderian-Messe-Patton (Montgomery/Graziani) as tank trio? Maybe someone has gone as far as trying to complete the game with bronze generals only? Would be nice to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 9, 2021 18:58:11 GMT
Hello, everyone! I have been reading this forum for quite a while. And it looks like most of players have nearly the same set of generals for endgame: Guderian, Rommel, Roko (or Manstein if with IAP), Konev, Leeb, Donitz/Nimitz (or both) + some situational generals like Arnold etc. I would like to try to complete the game without these guys. Well, ok, I already have Guderian so it does not apply to him. But is it even possible to complete the game with Zhang + Bradley as arty gens? Or Guderian-Messe-Patton (Montgomery/Graziani) as tank trio? Maybe someone has gone as far as trying to complete the game with bronze generals only? Would be nice to hear your thoughts. Thanks. Yes, there are certain generals that almost every one on the forum has and I think the orthodox general path can be broken to some point. I have used Zhang ZZ in modern war myself as he is actually a great general. However I think some generals shouldn't be bought no matter what (Bradley, Smigly, Bagramian, Peng D.H etc), but there are still some not as good as the Konevs and Guderians but pretty decent generals that aren't commonly bought (Timošenko, MacArthur, Montgomery, Mountbatten, Mannerheim, Zhang ZZ, Govorov, Nasser, Bock and Messe till end game to mention a few) Btw I have been thinking of a bronze general playthrough as well. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 9, 2021 18:59:13 GMT
And welcome to the forum micky ! |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 9, 2021 22:06:55 GMT
For some great gens, there are:
Govorov (with Accuracy)
Monty (with AA and Rumor/Street)
Patton (with AA and Rumor)
Mountbatten
MacArthur (with Rumor and PF)
Graziani (with Rumor and AA)
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Post by micky on Aug 10, 2021 9:03:49 GMT
Hello, everyone! I have been reading this forum for quite a while. And it looks like most of players have nearly the same set of generals for endgame: Guderian, Rommel, Roko (or Manstein if with IAP), Konev, Leeb, Donitz/Nimitz (or both) + some situational generals like Arnold etc. I would like to try to complete the game without these guys. Well, ok, I already have Guderian so it does not apply to him. But is it even possible to complete the game with Zhang + Bradley as arty gens? Or Guderian-Messe-Patton (Montgomery/Graziani) as tank trio? Maybe someone has gone as far as trying to complete the game with bronze generals only? Would be nice to hear your thoughts. Thanks. Yes, there are certain generals that almost every one on the forum has and I think the orthodox general path can be broken to some point. I have used Zhang ZZ in modern war myself as he is actually a great general. However I think some generals shouldn't be bought no matter what (Bradley, Smigly, Bagramian, Peng D.H etc), but there are still some not as good as the Konevs and Guderians but pretty decent generals that aren't commonly bought (Timošenko, MacArthur, Montgomery, Mountbatten, Mannerheim, Zhang ZZ, Govorov, Nasser, Bock and Messe till end game to mention a few) Btw I have been thinking of a bronze general playthrough as well. Isn't Bradley mostly hated for his price? I mean, having accuracy + rumor + mountain fighting makes him not that bad. Or am I wrong? Yes, I have Zhang and Mannerheim, and they are both good. I guess I will buy Mountbatten as well, but second navy is not a priority right now. Anyway, thank you. |
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Post by micky on Aug 10, 2021 9:04:17 GMT
And welcome to the forum micky ! Thank you!! |
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Post by micky on Aug 10, 2021 9:06:41 GMT
For some great gens, there are: Govorov (with Accuracy) Monty (with AA and Rumor/Street) Patton (with AA and Rumor) Mountbatten MacArthur (with Rumor and PF) Graziani (with Rumor and AA) I will definitely take this into consideration. Btw, who would you recommend among Patton, Monty and Graziani? |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 10, 2021 9:56:39 GMT
Yes, there are certain generals that almost every one on the forum has and I think the orthodox general path can be broken to some point. I have used Zhang ZZ in modern war myself as he is actually a great general. However I think some generals shouldn't be bought no matter what (Bradley, Smigly, Bagramian, Peng D.H etc), but there are still some not as good as the Konevs and Guderians but pretty decent generals that aren't commonly bought (Timošenko, MacArthur, Montgomery, Mountbatten, Mannerheim, Zhang ZZ, Govorov, Nasser, Bock and Messe till end game to mention a few) Btw I have been thinking of a bronze general playthrough as well. Isn't Bradley mostly hated for his price? I mean, having accuracy + rumor + mountain fighting makes him not that bad. Or am I wrong? Yes, I have Zhang and Mannerheim, and they are both good. I guess I will buy Mountbatten as well, but second navy is not a priority right now. Anyway, thank you. Probably yes, but it's still bad when you can have Konev, Leeb, Zhang ZZ and Govorov. But I think you're right about him being mostly hated for his price as accuracy and rumour are the most important skills for artillery. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 10, 2021 10:01:46 GMT
Okay now looking at Bradley, maybe the community is a bit too harsh on him. He is the only artillery general besides Leeb and Konev who can have both accuracy and rumour, but he still loses in damge potential to Govorov and Zhang ZZ (who are expensive as well).
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 10, 2021 11:45:30 GMT
Yes, there are certain generals that almost every one on the forum has and I think the orthodox general path can be broken to some point. I have used Zhang ZZ in modern war myself as he is actually a great general. However I think some generals shouldn't be bought no matter what (Bradley, Smigly, Bagramian, Peng D.H etc), but there are still some not as good as the Konevs and Guderians but pretty decent generals that aren't commonly bought (Timošenko, MacArthur, Montgomery, Mountbatten, Mannerheim, Zhang ZZ, Govorov, Nasser, Bock and Messe till end game to mention a few) Btw I have been thinking of a bronze general playthrough as well. Isn't Bradley mostly hated for his price? I mean, having accuracy + rumor + mountain fighting makes him not that bad. Or am I wrong? Yes, I have Zhang and Mannerheim, and they are both good. I guess I will buy Mountbatten as well, but second navy is not a priority right now. Anyway, thank you. Bradley is mainly hated for his price. IMO, now that you bring it up, he is a better Arty than Govorov, for around the same price. Decent Navy if you give him Rumor, Good Tanker with Rumor. He is a good 4th gen for you: Apply him when ya need him. Still, super overpriced. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 10, 2021 12:08:47 GMT
For some great gens, there are: Govorov (with Accuracy) Monty (with AA and Rumor/Street) Patton (with AA and Rumor) Mountbatten MacArthur (with Rumor and PF) Graziani (with Rumor and AA) I will definitely take this into consideration. Btw, who would you recommend among Patton, Monty and Graziani? I Definitely prefer Graziani for a full on first General, but I work a lot slower than many here, so go with Monty. In addition, he saves you the trouble of an Air general. Massive output, not great survivability, though. Patton is on the opposite end of the spectrum. He has Guderian's stars, a great damage reduction skill, a bad damage reduction skill, and an okay Damage skill. Graziani will be incredibly expensive if you want to make him good (7-9000 medals), but he has 2 okay skills and a controversial one. Lastly, there are Folks like Model who are cheap, and worse, but still will get the job done, it'll just be harder. However, he is 1000 medals less than Patton. I recommend AA or Rumor on him. |
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Post by MaximusOptimus on Aug 10, 2021 13:21:24 GMT
Almost everyone in this forum follows a same pattern in terms of generals they buy
1st general:Messe
2nd general:Guderian
3rd:General:Leeb
And so on
And I think this formula is great!
This formula works every time
There are a lot of decent generals generals too But Patton and Monty? I don't recomend them
I think there are also some no go generals like bradley,Timoshenko,Smigly and so on
But 1 thing I will agree on is that Infantry generals are next to worthless
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 10, 2021 13:25:31 GMT
Almost everyone in this forum follows a same pattern in terms of generals they buy 1st general:Messe 2nd general:Guderian 3rd:General:Leeb And so on And I think this formula is great! This formula works every time There are a lot of decent generals generals too But Patton and Monty? I don't recomend them I think there are also some no go generals like bradley,Timoshenko,Smigly and so on But 1 thing I will agree on is that Infantry generals are next to worthless 1. Excuse me? Third general Leeb? When you can get Konev for 100 medals more? No thanks. 2. Monty has ridiculous output. You should try him using s/l. His biggest problem is his price and lack of survivability. 3. Infantry generals are next to worthless if you use them like tank gens, because they are not. If you manage to use them to make small cuts in the enemy's lines, they can cause a whole lotta damage. They are glass cannons. |
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Post by MaximusOptimus on Aug 10, 2021 13:56:37 GMT
Gerd von Rundstedt,It was based off of my own experience in the game Though I also respect your opinion I don't fully support it
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 10, 2021 13:57:09 GMT
Almost everyone in this forum follows a same pattern in terms of generals they buy 1st general:Messe 2nd general:Guderian 3rd:General:Leeb And so on And I think this formula is great! This formula works every time There are a lot of decent generals generals too But Patton and Monty? I don't recomend them I think there are also some no go generals like bradley,Timoshenko,Smigly and so on But 1 thing I will agree on is that Infantry generals are next to worthless Timoshenko is great. |
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