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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 10, 2021 14:01:31 GMT
Almost everyone in this forum follows a same pattern in terms of generals they buy 1st general:Messe 2nd general:Guderian 3rd:General:Leeb And so on And I think this formula is great! This formula works every time There are a lot of decent generals generals too But Patton and Monty? I don't recomend them I think there are also some no go generals like bradley,Timoshenko,Smigly and so on But 1 thing I will agree on is that Infantry generals are next to worthless Timoshenko is great. MacArthur: *exists* Vatutin: *exists, while crushing Timoshenko and being slow* Sun Liren: *exists, while being as fast as Timo and having much better skills* |
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Post by micky on Aug 10, 2021 14:25:05 GMT
Hello, everyone! I have been reading this forum for quite a while. And it looks like most of players have nearly the same set of generals for endgame: Guderian, Rommel, Roko (or Manstein if with IAP), Konev, Leeb, Donitz/Nimitz (or both) + some situational generals like Arnold etc. I would like to try to complete the game without these guys. Well, ok, I already have Guderian so it does not apply to him. But is it even possible to complete the game with Zhang + Bradley as arty gens? Or Guderian-Messe-Patton (Montgomery/Graziani) as tank trio? Maybe someone has gone as far as trying to complete the game with bronze generals only? Would be nice to hear your thoughts. Thanks. Yes, there are certain generals that almost every one on the forum has and I think the orthodox general path can be broken to some point. I have used Zhang ZZ in modern war myself as he is actually a great general. However I think some generals shouldn't be bought no matter what (Bradley, Smigly, Bagramian, Peng D.H etc), but there are still some not as good as the Konevs and Guderians but pretty decent generals that aren't commonly bought (Timošenko, MacArthur, Montgomery, Mountbatten, Mannerheim, Zhang ZZ, Govorov, Nasser, Bock and Messe till end game to mention a few) Btw I have been thinking of a bronze general playthrough as well. Well, if we ever try to make it with bronze generals, the most obvious combination is Messe-Auchinleck-Bock De Gaulle-Badoglio Kuznetsov. Well, they might be not bad, but I am not sure if it's enough. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 10, 2021 14:27:09 GMT
Yes, there are certain generals that almost every one on the forum has and I think the orthodox general path can be broken to some point. I have used Zhang ZZ in modern war myself as he is actually a great general. However I think some generals shouldn't be bought no matter what (Bradley, Smigly, Bagramian, Peng D.H etc), but there are still some not as good as the Konevs and Guderians but pretty decent generals that aren't commonly bought (Timošenko, MacArthur, Montgomery, Mountbatten, Mannerheim, Zhang ZZ, Govorov, Nasser, Bock and Messe till end game to mention a few) Btw I have been thinking of a bronze general playthrough as well. Well, if we ever try to make it with bronze generals, the most obvious combination is Messe-Auchinleck-Bock De Gaulle-Badoglio Kuznetsov. Well, they might be not bad, but I am not sure if it's enough. Heinrici for a third Rumor and MacA Lite. |
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Post by micky on Aug 10, 2021 14:32:40 GMT
Almost everyone in this forum follows a same pattern in terms of generals they buy 1st general:Messe 2nd general:Guderian 3rd:General:Leeb And so on And I think this formula is great! This formula works every time There are a lot of decent generals generals too But Patton and Monty? I don't recomend them I think there are also some no go generals like bradley,Timoshenko,Smigly and so on But 1 thing I will agree on is that Infantry generals are next to worthless I agree that formula Messe-Leeb-Guderian-Konev is classic. And the most effective one. But since we play for fun, I'd to like to try something new. We all agree that Gude, Konev and so on are the best. But maybe it's time to give a chance to someone else)) |
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Post by MaximusOptimus on Aug 10, 2021 14:40:53 GMT
micky,Well said. Its great to add some variety sometimes.
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Aug 10, 2021 16:40:07 GMT
MacArthur: *exists* Vatutin: *exists, while crushing Timoshenko and being slow* Sun Liren: *exists, while being as fast as Timo and having much better skills* - MacArthur vs Timošenko: Street fighting < Plain fighting Entrenchment > Camouflage Infantry leader < Crowd tactics MacArthur's problem is that he is supposed to be an infantry/hybrid general, but he has a skill that is useless for any unit except infantry (IL) and a skill that is useful on only tanks (Street fighting). -Sun Liren vs Timošenko: Plain fighting = Plain fighting Crossfire > Camouflage Jungle fighting < Crowd tactics, especially when he already has a terrain bonus. -Vatutin vs Timošenko Plain fighting = Plain fighting TOI > Camouflage Panzer leader < Crowd tactics (atleast for my uses for Timošenko) The only one of the tank generals I currently don't have, that beats Timošenko skill wise os Messe but he's too slow. |
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