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Post by skylander on Aug 19, 2021 4:19:52 GMT
Guys have you ever tried putting all the chaos skill general (fully upgrade chaos) to a team? how efficient can it be compared to using Att (leadership) of Def (Spy) reduction Gen (also fully upgrade) in a team?
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Post by mayankshadow on Aug 19, 2021 5:56:33 GMT
Well i did every possible run.
Using all chaos is good if u have atleast two damagers in them (like richard)
Using all leadership is very nice in legend and empire. In campaign too it can be good if u know hoq to play whereas in conq it can be disturbing.
All spies can be good if u have hogh hlth and and movement. So just give it try. I will suggest runs here if u wish.
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Post by Iron Duke on Aug 19, 2021 15:20:52 GMT
Guys have you ever tried putting all the chaos skill general (fully upgrade chaos) to a team? how efficient can it be compared to using Att (leadership) of Def (Spy) reduction Gen (also fully upgrade) in a team? I've never tried them but the main problem I see is that those skills don't stack whereas Commander does, and sometimes you just need raw killing power. E.G. once you have hit someone with Leadership or Rumour then you want to kill them as soon as possible, rather than keep them disabled while you take your time wearing them down. Also Rumour has no effect on towers, walls and the mythical bosses, and Leadership is pointless against walls too so I reckon you're better off with a bit of everything. |
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Post by gczx on Aug 20, 2021 9:42:16 GMT
Guys have you ever tried putting all the chaos skill general (fully upgrade chaos) to a team? how efficient can it be compared to using Att (leadership) of Def (Spy) reduction Gen (also fully upgrade) in a team? I've never tried them but the main problem I see is that those skills don't stack whereas Commander does, and sometimes you just need raw killing power. E.G. once you have hit someone with Leadership or Rumour then you want to kill them as soon as possible, rather than keep them disabled while you take your time wearing them down. Also Rumour has no effect on towers, walls and the mythical bosses, and Leadership is pointless against walls too so I reckon you're better off with a bit of everything. leadership can stack? that's super OP!
does it stack from the same general or must be a different one?
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Post by Iron Duke on Aug 20, 2021 11:10:49 GMT
I've never tried them but the main problem I see is that those skills don't stack whereas Commander does, and sometimes you just need raw killing power. E.G. once you have hit someone with Leadership or Rumour then you want to kill them as soon as possible, rather than keep them disabled while you take your time wearing them down. Also Rumour has no effect on towers, walls and the mythical bosses, and Leadership is pointless against walls too so I reckon you're better off with a bit of everything. leadership can stack? that's super OP!
does it stack from the same general or must be a different one?
No, it doesn't stack, that was my point  So hypothetically if you have 6 guys with Leadership attack 1 (very strong) enemy then leave them alone, the only difference between that and attacking them with 1 Leadership general is the damage caused by the additional 5. |
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Post by gczx on Aug 20, 2021 15:29:11 GMT
leadership can stack? that's super OP!
does it stack from the same general or must be a different one?
No, it doesn't stack, that was my point So hypothetically if you have 6 guys with Leadership attack 1 (very strong) enemy then leave them alone, the only difference between that and attacking them with 1 Leadership general is the damage caused by the additional 5. oh I got it, sorry for misunderstanding and yeah I agree |
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Post by skylander on Aug 22, 2021 14:59:03 GMT
Guys have you ever tried putting all the chaos skill general (fully upgrade chaos) to a team? how efficient can it be compared to using Att (leadership) of Def (Spy) reduction Gen (also fully upgrade) in a team? I've never tried them but the main problem I see is that those skills don't stack whereas Commander does, and sometimes you just need raw killing power. E.G. once you have hit someone with Leadership or Rumour then you want to kill them as soon as possible, rather than keep them disabled while you take your time wearing them down. Also Rumour has no effect on towers, walls and the mythical bosses, and Leadership is pointless against walls too so I reckon you're better off with a bit of everything. Ahhh so its better to have all than focus on one type. Btw Commander skill stack? Thanks I never knew that. |
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Post by Iron Duke on Aug 22, 2021 16:29:54 GMT
I've never tried them but the main problem I see is that those skills don't stack whereas Commander does, and sometimes you just need raw killing power. E.G. once you have hit someone with Leadership or Rumour then you want to kill them as soon as possible, rather than keep them disabled while you take your time wearing them down. Also Rumour has no effect on towers, walls and the mythical bosses, and Leadership is pointless against walls too so I reckon you're better off with a bit of everything. Ahhh so its better to have all than focus on one type. Btw Commander skill stack? Thanks I never knew that. Yeah, I made a playlist on Ragnarok which demonstrates the effects of stacked commanders: |
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Post by barbarossa on Sept 2, 2021 14:05:06 GMT
Guys have you ever tried putting all the chaos skill general (fully upgrade chaos) to a team? how efficient can it be compared to using Att (leadership) of Def (Spy) reduction Gen (also fully upgrade) in a team? I’ve just completed a run with an all chaos team, it was mostly disappointing. It takes forever to to max out the rumor skill, especially for your heavy hitters like Blucher. It also doesn’t have a consistent enough trigger rate, even at max. It created a decent team, just nothing special. |
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Post by mayankshadow on Sept 3, 2021 5:16:28 GMT
Well perhaps that means i was lucky.
I did it with quite ease and got three stars in all campaigns. I defeated the whole asgard and nordic mythology in legend mode and did all the conquests(the one with india in industrial age was sweating). Well to mention no hard mode or greece back then.
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Post by mayankshadow on Sept 3, 2021 5:18:07 GMT
As for all leadership and all spy i won all except for 2 stars in last campaign (petain against russia i guess) using spy.and so as to mention no legend mode back then.
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Post by YDE on Sept 7, 2021 22:44:56 GMT
Yeah having a mix of all of them is better than one full. It is nice for themes but for a legit run, I can imagine it might be a little bit difficult. Definately having raw power helps. I'll be honest and say I haven't used the Commander skills at all until recently (was still pretty dumb at the game back then) and let me tell you some campaigns were impossible to beat. And if you need any general picking help, DEFINETELY GET NOBUNAGA! He's the greatest general IMO. Double de-buff, mass-fire at 4 and 6*, a decent enough active perk (put gunginir or Mystelain and that's even better), and amazing stats with only purple upgrade costs. He's definately carried me on my main game and my ArchCom game as well. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 8, 2021 14:51:05 GMT
Yeah having a mix of all of them is better than one full. It is nice for themes but for a legit run, I can imagine it might be a little bit difficult. Definately having raw power helps. I'll be honest and say I haven't used the Commander skills at all until recently (was still pretty dumb at the game back then) and let me tell you some campaigns were impossible to beat. And if you need any general picking help, DEFINETELY GET NOBUNAGA! He's the greatest general IMO. Double de-buff, mass-fire at 4 and 6*, a decent enough active perk (put gunginir or Mystelain and that's even better), and amazing stats with only purple upgrade costs. He's definately carried me on my main game and my ArchCom game as well. Nobunaga is great, yes, but I wouldn't say he is the best. I think that honor goes to Caesar or Napoleon, if you use IAPs. If you are looking for Nobby on a better unit, let me introduce you to Richard. That Being said, I think Nobby is a must-buy in most runs. |
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